2012 Non-Nets NBA Game Thread

vincecarter4pres · Post #681 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 4:35 am

I miss Vince.

BTW, Chuck City is awful and the refs handed the Knix that game at the end to insure it.

Shameer1016 · Post #682 » by **Shameer1016** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:46 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:I miss Vince.

BTW, Chuck City is awful and the refs handed the Knix that game at the end to insure it.

Still my favorite player, even though homie is 35 lol. He had a funny lowlight in that game, but I refuse to post it.

AND

False, Bucks were getting EVERY call, too bad they couldn't hit there shots.

therealbig3 · Post #683 » by **therealbig3** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:13 am

Ellis really impressed me tonight...I really didn't like him at all for the last couple of years, but he played a great game tonight. Under control, created for others and had some great passes, picked his spots in the flow of the offense, and he's awesome in transition.

Flawed player, but I think I've been underrating him. He's got some skills.

vincecarter4pres · Post #684 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:30 pm

Ellis is definitely a good player, just very overrated due to his gawdy raw inefficient numbers which was due to his crazy overuse.

Simultaneously underrated as well because people think he's nothing more then a mindless chucker with little impact.

That is only true when he's forced to be, which I still feel he is in Milwaukee.
If you saw some of his other games with the Bucks you wouldn't give him such a ringing endorsement.

I also wonder if he can break 4 years worth of bad habits if he's not on a strong veteran contender where he's forced into place as a 3rd or 4th option.

He's still a 1st option in Milwaukee and he's just awful in that role.

therealbig3 · Post #685 » by **therealbig3** » Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:36 pm

Yeah, I really don't watch the Bucks much.

Just saying, I really liked the way he played against the Knicks last night.

I agree though, he's a terrible 1st option.

I think he'll be better in Milwaukee than in GS, because even though he might be forced to be a 1st option, it's more of a balanced attack, so he won't chuck up shots like he was doing in GS.

Post #686 » by **NyCeEvO** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:13 am

Funny that the Bulls go on a run as soon as Rose goes to the bench and with Noah and Boozer already there.

Post #687 » by **NyCeEvO** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 2:50 am

Rose is the anti-MVP right now lol. He comes in plays bad. When he goes to the bench, the Bulls play better.

Give Thibs credit for having the gonads to bench his superstar and going with what works.

There's a true coach!

Ronito · Post #688 » by **Ronito** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:17 am

Ronito wrote:Should be fun reading the GB later tonight. I love reading through the "Are the Bulls better without Rose?" discussion.

Shameer1016 · Post #689 » by **Shameer1016** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:42 am

Ronito wrote:
Ronito wrote:Should be fun reading the GB later tonight. I love reading through the "Are the Bulls better without Rose?" discussion.

That's just (Please Use More Appropriate Word) if people think so. Would love to see Rose miss the 1st round to see how they fear in a best of 7 series.

624 · Post #690 » by **624** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:52 am

Remember last year when Deron went 1-13 against Rose with an injured wrist and all of the Bulls fans bragged about it on the General Board and said that his injury wasn't an excuse?

Well Rose just went 1-13, lets see if they use the same logic.

therealbig3 · Post #691 » by **therealbig3** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:11 am

Shameer1016 wrote:
Ronito wrote:
Ronito wrote:Should be fun reading the GB later tonight. I love reading through the "Are the Bulls better without Rose?" discussion.

That's just (Please Use More Appropriate Word) if people think so. Would love to see Rose miss the 1st round to see how they fear in a best of 7 series.

They're not better, because he's their best offensive player, but he's not nearly as important to the Bulls as people think, and as people in the media portray. I've explained it before, the team doesn't have much offensive talent outside of Rose, but they kind of did that on purpose to stack up on defense. Their best defensive players are offensively challenged.

They're a team that wins mainly on defense/rebounding, and Rose plays a very minimal part in that. I like him a lot as a person and as a player, but he's probably the most overrated player in the league.

Shameer1016 · Post #692 » by **Shameer1016** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:13 am

They're a team that wins mainly on defense/rebounding, and Rose plays a very minimal part in that. I like him a lot as a person and as a player, but he's probably the most overrated player in the league.

They can go undefeated without him if they want, but as I said, I would love to see how they fare* in a playoff series. I don't think his role is overrated or hyped. Many times, most of there loses without him, that team is just sad to watch on offense, especially when there shots aren't falling, and YES, they have many players that thrive or die by that jumper. It nothing against what your saying, but I've read something things about Bulls being better than Rose, and I just find that to be ridiculous. As you said, that team is defense oriented, BUT Rose is that scorer that is needed for a team to really be a contender. I'm honestly surprised his average for the 35 games he's played this season is not far off from last years.

jeff1624 · Post #693 » by **jeff1624** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:48 pm

Interesting footnote that emerged from the Lamar Odom saga earlier this week in Dallas: Sources close to the situation say that Odom would likely have landed with the New Jersey Nets had the Los Angeles Lakers' trade for Chris Paul gone through in December.

In a deal that NBA commissioner David Stern ultimately canceled, acting as the lead decision-maker for the then-league-owned Hornets, Odom was included as part of the package bound for New Orleans (along with the Rockets' Luis Scola, Kevin Martin and Goran Dragic) in exchange for Paul, with Houston poised to acquire the Lakers' Pau Gasol.

When the deal for Paul dissolved, L.A. decided to offload the unhappy Odom to the Mavericks for a future first-round pick, despite the fact that Dallas had just swept the Lakers in the second round of last spring's playoffs.

Sources say that the Hornets, had they been able to trade Paul to the Lakers instead of the Clippers, were well aware that Odom would not be taking his exile from Lakerland well and thus had a trade lined up with New Jersey that would have sent Odom to Deron Williams' Nets in exchange for a future first-round pick.

Would the New York native have come to grips with his Lakers exit faster if he had joined the Nets as opposed to the Mavs? Something we'll obviously never be able to answer.

Thank god this didn't happen.

vincecarter4pres · Post #694 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Fri Apr 13, 2012 11:59 pm

Billy. King. Bobby. Marks.

jeff1624 · Post #695 » by **jeff1624** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:09 am

vincecarter4pres wrote:Billy. King. Bobby. Marks.

For what it's worth I would have been all for this trade in December, Lamar Odom was one of my favorite players until he mailed it in this season.

vincecarter4pres · Post #696 » by **vincecarter4pres** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 12:30 am

jeff1624 wrote:
vincecarter4pres wrote:Billy. King. Bobby. Marks.

For what it's worth I would have been all for this trade in December, Lamar Odom was one of my favorite players until he mailed it in this season.

The funny part is though, I'm very confident saying that where the Mavs put really solid protection on their 1st round pick in that deal(I believe it's permanently top 20 protected), Billy would have put very meager protection on it.

That's the difference between knee jerk instant gratification Billy and a intelligent forward thinking GM.

therealbig3 · Post #697 » by **therealbig3** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 1:32 am

I really thought the Wizards could have pulled off the upset...

:nonono:

Shameer1016 · Post #698 » by **Shameer1016** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 2:01 am

therealbig3 wrote:I really thought the Wizards could have pulled off the upset...

It was a close game

Ronito · Post #699 » by **Ronito** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:14 am

I'm looking at the Knicks/Wizards box score and all I can say is wow. So...where do you guys stand on John Wall?

Ronito · Post #700 » by **Ronito** » Sat Apr 14, 2012 4:28 am

I see Dwight Howard out for the regular season because of herniated disc. Wonder if/how healthy he'll be for playoffs, otherwise that's an easy first round knockout.