Metta World Peace elbow to Harden

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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1361 » by INKtastic » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:29 pm

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Breen is a tool, who is self-righteous to the point of high comedy. I think the coverage was almost as bad as the act itself tbh.



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I mean I know hyperbole is his schtick but that was a little much amirite?


Breen had no right to say some of the stuff he said. The dude was acting like MWP was some sort of animal to be caged. Right after Ron walked away from Ibaka he said "He's over there all by himself now, someone from the Lakers should make sure they're over there with him" or something to that effect, like he was about to go **** someone in Row 2. Then just kept repeating "what a disgrace" over and over like we didn't hear him the first time. Really overstepped his bounds.


It was a disgrace. Probably the most disgraceful thing to happen in basketball since Artest punched a fan. Pretty much the same reaction from everyone I've shown the play to, which includes my wife, aunt and daughter, who are all big basketball fans.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1362 » by doctorfunk » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:31 pm

Artest elbows a player who initiates cheap contact with him, well I've seen worse
Love stomping on Scola's face was more disgraceful
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1363 » by zulu » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:31 pm

I think this is the same level as the Kevin Love face stomp, so he should get around 5 games.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1364 » by INKtastic » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:32 pm

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Nuntius wrote:With Ron it's not a matter of double standards. It's a matter of protecting the rest of the league.

Ron is not a headcase. He is mentally unstable. If any other NBA player was mentally unstable like Ron then I would hold him in the same standards. But no other player is like him.


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You're comparing a full force elbow to the back of someone's head to sticking your finger in their ear? Seriously?
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1365 » by Soupman » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:34 pm

Suspended for the rest of the season and PO.

This kind of stuff is silly. What if he busted his eye, concussed him, or messed up his neck. That is his livelihood.

Blunt hits to the head can cause neurological disorders. He was in a prone position and not in a defensive stance so it was more dangerous.

Its like a WR or QB getting hit while in a defenseless position.(up in the air,while on the ground,etc)
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1366 » by therealbig3 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:34 pm

zulu wrote:I think this is the same level as the Kevin Love face stomp, so he should get around 5 games.


Now keep in mind that Artest has a history of crap like this, including instigating the lowest point in NBA history, the Brawl.

I'm amazed that people think a repeat offender shouldn't be given a harsher penalty. It works like that in any other situation, a repeat offender always gets harsher penalties.

He should be suspended for the playoffs, at least.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1367 » by Pimpwerx » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:34 pm

doctorfunk wrote:i'm a celtics fan

and i just don't like double standards, Malone elbowed people on purpose all the time(like Nash in 2004- and didn't even got ejected for that) and I didn't see people asking to ban him from playoffs

elbowing people in the face is not right, and perhaps it deserves a SHORT suspension but people are overreacting because it's Artest, i know he makes some people uneasy by giving him 10game ban for what would be 1-2game ban for anyone else is not fair.

No, lots of guys elbow the way Malone did. Magloire, for example, does the elbows-out routine. Contact is more incidental in that case, as the elbow are used more for warding. I know Malone would throw them around sometimes, but always while holding the ball. Artest just threw an elbow strike. No ball and no excuse. He was simply trying to clock someone, and he did. At least Malone can pretend he was making a basketball move. PEACE.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1368 » by doctorfunk » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:38 pm

i agree it's much worse when you don't have the ball, it's like hitting someone in the face and warrants a suspension

Pimpwerx wrote:No, lots of guys elbow the way Malone did. Magloire, for example, does the elbows-out routine. Contact is more incidental in that case, as the elbow are used more for warding. I know Malone would throw them around sometimes, but always while holding the ball. Artest just threw an elbow strike. No ball and no excuse. He was simply trying to clock someone, and he did. At least Malone can pretend he was making a basketball move. PEACE.


however it doesn't matter much for the person who gets hit, and MANY of Malone elbows were not to clear-out-space(these happen and are justified to some extent), they were clearly intended to hit someone in the face ; like in case when he hit Nash
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1369 » by KING CB4 » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:41 pm

Marlon Wayans called him "Ron Autistic" on Twitter yesterday :lol:
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1370 » by hourockman » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:46 pm

Has anyone found out how Harden is doing at the ICU?
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1371 » by LOJ » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:49 pm

KING CB4 wrote:Marlon Wayans called him "Ron Autistic" on Twitter yesterday :lol:


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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1372 » by INKtastic » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:53 pm

doctorfunk wrote:i agree it's much worse when you don't have the ball, it's like hitting someone in the face and warrants a suspension

Pimpwerx wrote:No, lots of guys elbow the way Malone did. Magloire, for example, does the elbows-out routine. Contact is more incidental in that case, as the elbow are used more for warding. I know Malone would throw them around sometimes, but always while holding the ball. Artest just threw an elbow strike. No ball and no excuse. He was simply trying to clock someone, and he did. At least Malone can pretend he was making a basketball move. PEACE.


however it doesn't matter much for the person who gets hit, and MANY of Malone elbows were not to clear-out-space(these happen and are justified to some extent), they were clearly intended to hit someone in the face ; like in case when he hit Nash


So because Karl Malone was a dirty player who knew how to make his dirty play appear to be basketball related moves (when they were clearly calculated), you think Artest should get away with assault on a non basketball related play?
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1373 » by SweetTouch » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:53 pm

I hope they teach him a lesson
Stop being so disrespectful.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1374 » by doctorfunk » Mon Apr 23, 2012 1:59 pm

INKtastic wrote:So because Karl Malone was a dirty player who knew how to make his dirty play appear to be basketball related moves (when they were clearly calculated), you think Artest should get away with assault on a non basketball related play?


no he should get suspended 1-2 games without paying would be fair
but for playoffs? would be very unfair
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1375 » by GreenHat » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:02 pm

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zulu wrote:I think this is the same level as the Kevin Love face stomp, so he should get around 5 games.


Now keep in mind that Artest has a history of crap like this, including instigating the lowest point in NBA history, the Brawl.

I'm amazed that people think a repeat offender shouldn't be given a harsher penalty. It works like that in any other situation, a repeat offender always gets harsher penalties.

He should be suspended for the playoffs, at least.


Exactly repeat offender.

Artest had to know that after the brawl he was going to be held to a higher standard for any type of violence.

This is clearly an intentional shot to the head.

I could see a pretty heavy penalty.

Things like this (and the Love face stomp that someone else mentioned) need to be dealt with harshly. Its one thing to throw a punch at a guy when he is looking. But an unexpected elbow or stomp to the head that the person can't even brace for can do a lot of damage.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1376 » by choppermagic » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:12 pm

a suspension is pretty much a foregone conclusion. Elbows get usually 1-2 games, but im guessing the league will come down harder on MWP.

Although all those people referring to MWP's "history", his history also includes the NBA Citizenship Award and tons of mental health awareness charity work. You cant just take one part of a person's past and ignore the more recent good work he's done too.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1377 » by The_Ghost_of_JB » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:23 pm

doctorfunk wrote:
INKtastic wrote:So because Karl Malone was a dirty player who knew how to make his dirty play appear to be basketball related moves (when they were clearly calculated), you think Artest should get away with assault on a non basketball related play?


no he should get suspended 1-2 games without paying would be fair
but for playoffs? would be very unfair


Maybe if he was a first time offender I can see two games but that is not that case. Artest is still the same guy he was 8 years ago. How much longer will the NBA put up with his shenanigans before they say enough is enough?

Unfair? You serious? Maybe Artest should refrain from elbowing people in the head. Whatever punishment the NBA doles he will deserve. I think Artest will get 5 games and and within the next year or so he will pull the another stunt. The guy simply cannot be trusted to behave himself.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1378 » by theokie » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:26 pm

I wonder how long this thread would've been had Laker fans not been trolling and blaming this on Harden and saying he deserved it

Over/under 20?
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1379 » by Juan Montoya » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:26 pm

Since he could have caused permanent damage to the brain if hit at the right spot, and you never want to send the message to lower levels of Basketball that something like this is at all exceptable, I would give him a fine of 250.000$ and a ban until the start of the Finals, if the Team gets that far.

I believe he did it intentionally in a moment of crazyness and wanted it to look unintentional.
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Re: Metta World Peace elbow to Harden 

Post#1380 » by Nowascki » Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:28 pm

Harden didn't do anything. It was Artest going in his direction and hitting him.

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