Lin best QB in NBA?

[juxtaposition]

Can't help but notice that the posters taking a poo on this thread had been proposing marriage to Lin in the game threads during that stretch.

Just sayin.

-Lurker with a long memory and lots of time.

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lol. agree with the comment about the "can't bounce pass bs" these clowns throwing out there just because they hear it from SAS. same clowns who posted youtube vids claiming that woody got melo and lin sharing the ball during the 6-1 run which ironically had multiple clips of lin making some beautiful bounce passes.

[StephNYKurry]

lol. agree with the comment about the "can't bounce pass bs" these clowns throwing out there just because they hear it from SAS. same clowns who posted youtube vids claiming that woody got melo and lin sharing the ball during the 6-1 run which ironically had multiple clips of lin making some beautiful bounce passes.

It's so ridiculous the things some people say

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[drtran117]

Lin is the best at passing to the wrong team

Russel Westbrook disagrees

John Wall is saddened that he is not part of the conversation.

[bfpri]

Considering he probably gets 50% of his assists from that, I'd say its his strength. He doesn't need to improve on that, he needs to work on his passing in traffic. It's extremely poor, either that or Amare and Tyson can't catch.

[Clyde_Style]

Considering he probably gets 50% of his assists from that, I'd say its his strength. He doesn't need to improve on that, he needs to work on his passing in traffic. It's extremely poor, either that or Amare and Tyson can't catch.

You are confusing the issue of maintaining his handle in traffic and protecting the ball with issues of passing in traffic.

He passes well in traffic. His issue at times became over-dribbling in the paint and the exhaustion he experienced getting heavy minutes immediately also led to some fatigue-generated mistakes.

From what I saw, his turnovers were roughly divided between turnovers on the dribble and passes. The majority of his passes that led to turnovers were not his fault actually and were his teammates not being alert and with their hands up ready to receive the pass. The minority of his passing turnovers were from bad passes in traffic. He had quite a few games where he would have had at least another half dozen assists if his teammates were catching and converting better.

He passes well in traffic. What he needs to work on is keeping his body between the ball and the defenders before he makes his move to the basket. Since he is a penetrator by instinct, he often dribbled facing players or over-navigated in the paint like Nash instead of keeping the ball to his back or side dribble before turning into the paint. This is something he will improve with experience, but it has almost nothing to do with his passing skills in or out of traffic which are already very good.

[xsaberx]

Considering he probably gets 50% of his assists from that, I'd say its his strength. He doesn't need to improve on that, he needs to work on his passing in traffic. It's extremely poor, either that or Amare and Tyson can't catch.

It's like people didn't actually watch him play and just believe screaming A smith saying the guy can't dribble or go left and is marginal. The truth is he was great and was playing is his first 25 games in the NBA. He was getting better at his weaknesses as time went on. No other rookie would be getting this scrutiny.

He's a great passer in traffic - he just had no experience. He connected on his passes twice as much as he missed them. He would go through little spurts usually in the 3rd quarter where it looked like he lost focus because of mental and physical fatigue. Remember the guy was playing close to 40 minutes per game in a condensed brutal schedule after never having played even normal backup minutes in a normal schedule.

[SilverQT]

Considering he probably gets 50% of his assists from that, I'd say its his strength. He doesn't need to improve on that, he needs to work on his passing in traffic. It's extremely poor, either that or Amare and Tyson can't catch.

It's like people didn't actually watch him play and just believe screaming A smith saying the guy can't dribble or go left and is marginal. The truth is he was great and was playing is his first 25 games in the NBA. He was getting better at his weaknesses as time went on. No other rookie would be getting this scrutiny.

He's a great passer in traffic - he just had no experience. He connected on his passes twice as much as he missed them. He would go through little spurts usually in the 3rd quarter where it looked like he lost focus because of mental and physical fatigue. Remember the guy was playing close to 40 minutes per game in a condensed brutal schedule after never having played even normal backup minutes in a normal schedule.

You're making far too much sense. Stop it.

[bklynstoops]

Lin is not the best at anything in the NBA; well, except maybe drawing over enthusiastic fanboys who are desperate to crown him with something.

Let the kid develop. He has a lot of work to do.

[GettinitDone]

Considering he probably gets 50% of his assists from that, I'd say its his strength. He doesn't need to improve on that, he needs to work on his passing in traffic. It's extremely poor, either that or Amare and Tyson can't catch.

It's like people didn't actually watch him play and just believe screaming A smith saying the guy can't dribble or go left and is marginal. The truth is he was great and was playing is his first 25 games in the NBA. He was getting better at his weaknesses as time went on. No other rookie would be getting this scrutiny.

He's a great passer in traffic - he just had no experience. He connected on his passes twice as much as he missed them. He would go through little spurts usually in the 3rd quarter where it looked like he lost focus because of mental and physical fatigue. Remember the guy was playing close to 40 minutes per game in a condensed brutal schedule after never having played even normal backup minutes in a normal schedule.

I agree People keep forgetting:
- this is his true "rookie" year and those are basically his first 25 real games in NBA.
- he plays in New York, the biggest and most unforgiving, brutal fans/ media in the world


Even LeBron had a 7 pts game as a rookie... but did people say he was shut down or he was "exposed"? That it was what his career was going to be? LeBron, Kyrie, Melo, etc all had the privilege of "playing through mistakes" as a rookie in small market that they can get away with bad games now and then.

I remember Melo had a disastrous '04 summer where he clashed with Larry Brown in Olympics, got a marijuana in his backpack, went through Stop Snitchin DVD saga, and a bar fight... all the dramas ABSOLUTELY got to his head and he shot 35%, he played tentatively, he played as if he was worried about something for the first 3 months in his second season... the media lynched him... and that was the SMALL media back in Denver! Had Melo played in New York, he would never have regained his confidence.

In New York, Lin would get lynched when he has a bad game... people are forgetting rookies are young and in some games they're just not into the game/ focused as professionals. But after the bad Heat game, he had lots of good games. People are forgetting all successful people have to start from somewhere.

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every player has flaws but ppl are looking way too hard to find one in lin's game. he can't go left.. no, actually he's gone left plenty of times and he's quite good at it and does it more than the average starting pg (some don't even do it). just because his right is that much better, doesn't mean his left is bad durrrr. he can't bounce pass.. crackheads. he can't bring the ball up the court.. same crackheads. he can't make free-throws, he can't shoot, he can't score, he can't make layups.. baloney. he can't defend.. same crackheads who says melo doesn't need to play defense because he's exerting himself on offense. in GS, defense was actually lin's strong point along with hustling. he makes too many turnovers.. same crackheads who conveniently forgot that he was playing 40+ minutes, handling the ball 90% of the time, was the opposing team's main focus.. drawing double and triple teams, drawing contacts, and-one's, and making game clutch and winning shots. same crackheads who said that lin and melo played well together under woodson during the 6-1 run, ironically siting lin's lower turnover stats and crediting it all to melo and woodson. lmfao!

but of course all of the top draft pick players are perfect because these "superstar" fanboys treat them like kings. look at john wall.. lin has always gotten the best of him and yet, wall's fanboys claims fluke, twice. wall can't shoot as well, doesn't have the kind of court vision nor the kind of basketball iq that lin possesses and yet he gets all the benefits of the doubt or he "just needs time to develop".. they were in the same draft class and wall started for the wizards from day 1, ffs.

[SilverQT]

Considering he probably gets 50% of his assists from that, I'd say its his strength. He doesn't need to improve on that, he needs to work on his passing in traffic. It's extremely poor, either that or Amare and Tyson can't catch.

It's like people didn't actually watch him play and just believe screaming A smith saying the guy can't dribble or go left and is marginal. The truth is he was great and was playing is his first 25 games in the NBA. He was getting better at his weaknesses as time went on. No other rookie would be getting this scrutiny.

He's a great passer in traffic - he just had no experience. He connected on his passes twice as much as he missed them. He would go through little spurts usually in the 3rd quarter where it looked like he lost focus because of mental and physical fatigue. Remember the guy was playing close to 40 minutes per game in a condensed brutal schedule after never having played even normal backup minutes in a normal schedule.

I agree People keep forgetting:
- this is his true "rookie" year and those are basically his first 25 real games in NBA.
- he plays in New York, the biggest and most unforgiving, brutal fans/ media in the world


Even LeBron had a 7 pts game as a rookie... but did people say he was shut down or he was "exposed"? That it was what his career was going to be? LeBron, Kyrie, Melo, etc all had the privilege of "playing through mistakes" as a rookie in small market that they can get away with bad games now and then.

I remember Melo had a disastrous '04 summer where he clashed with Larry Brown in Olympics, got a marijuana in his backpack, went through Stop Snitchin DVD saga, and a bar fight... all the dramas ABSOLUTELY got to his head and he shot 35%, he played tentatively, he played as if he was worried about something for the first 3 months in his second season... the media lynched him... and that was the SMALL media back in Denver! Had Melo played in New York, he would never have regained his confidence.

In New York, Lin would get lynched when he has a bad game... people are forgetting rookies are young and in some games they're just not into the game/ focused as professionals. But after the bad Heat game, he had lots of good games. People are forgetting all successful people have to start from somewhere.

Well said. The Knicks are suddenly in a hurry to win a championship and the argument that we don't have time to wait for Lin to develop is laughable. We've got nothing but time. People are kidding themselves into thinking we are just one Nash away from a championship. This team has deeper issues than that and drafting in yet another superstar to paper over the cracks isn't going to solve anything long term. And we should be thinking long term. Look at the Spurs for crying out loud. If that isn't reaping the fruits of success from seeds planted ages ago, I don't know what is.

Sure, Lin could be a total bust. You only have to look at the number of highly drafted players that haven't panned out. But he could also be the true gem that he promises to be. Every diamond needs a little polish and there's no denying Lin has got work to do. But he's not as far off as some would have you think. I don't think he needs that much time (i.e seasons and seasons) to be right up there. And I would much rather have him on our team when that time comes, than to be looking on as he succeeds elsewhere. Especially if that almighty 'chip hasn't come our way by then.

[mys_ticked]

I think he honed his long-range passes from playing lots of flag football in Harvard. He dominates those games too.

I would love to see him play some football for fun. Maybe in a team with TB. That would be one hyped event for sure. lol.

[cgf]

Lin still has plenty of work to do, his D is a weakness although he's got the tools to excel, there with his intelligence and good size for his position he should be able to become a could turnover generator with and learn to keep guys in front of him. His jumper can get much more automatic but that takes time and reps. He needs to learn to protect the ball better, both as he's surveying the court and as he's making his move, too often he seemed too caught up thinking ahead to where he was going so opposing players could poke the ball away from him before he ever got there. Possibly most importantly, he needs to get better chemistry with his team-mates so that they know when to expect passes from him and he knows when not to throw them the ball because they aren't ready for it.

I have faith he'll improve and he's already done quite well, but there's still a lot of work his game could use to become the player he can one day be, that's why it's crucial that we get a real PG to share time with him. Someone who can help us ease him back in after this injury and can give us direction when Lin struggles. Andre Miller, Jason Kidd or Steve Nash would be just perfect if we could get them and Lin, but given our options someone along the lines of Earl Watson would serve our purposes well.

[spaceballer]

Jeremy Lin takes a break from basketball, leads Harvard to win flag football championship vs. Winthrop

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-oXfeT75SE[/youtube]

[DrKnick]

QB? I don't know about that. IQ? Probably.

[madbucky]

Props for the Charlie Ward reference. Didn't remember that his college football # was 17.