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1st rd pick general discussion #2 overall (Poll Added)

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Who should the Bobcats draft at #2?

Thomas Robinson: 6-9, 240, PF, Kansas Jr
65
43%
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist: 6-7, 228, SF, Kentucky Fr
24
16%
Andre Drummond: 6-10, 251, C, UConn Fr
28
19%
Bradley Beal: 6-4, 201, SG, Florida Fr
23
15%
Harrison Barnes: 6-8, 223, SF, UNC So
10
7%
 
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Re: 1st round pick discussion #2 overall (Poll Added) 

Post#601 » by TheKingofSting » Sat Jun 2, 2012 12:25 am

HasheemThabeet wrote:I can buy Drummond's potential max out ceiling being higher than Robinson's but it's not by a big margin. Besides, for Drummond to reach his max potential he'd actually have to learn how to play basketball


I disagree. His ceiling is on another level than T-Rob, Bynum at worst.
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Post#602 » by HornetJail » Sat Jun 2, 2012 12:37 am

I think Drummond's ceiling is what Greg Oden was supposed to be, but he could bust.
T-Rob's ceiling is nowhere near that.
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Post#603 » by MPM » Sat Jun 2, 2012 12:48 am

T-rob = $100
Drummond = what's in the box

This is what separates us.
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Post#604 » by debo23 » Sat Jun 2, 2012 12:52 am

MPM wrote:T-rob = $100
Drummond = what's in the box

This is what separates us.


In this box?

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Post#605 » by MPM » Sat Jun 2, 2012 12:54 am

debo23 wrote:
MPM wrote:T-rob = $100
Drummond = what's in the box

This is what separates us.


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Post#606 » by ohara » Sat Jun 2, 2012 12:56 am

Funny how Chad Ford thinks Charlotte will have trouble getting people to come work out for Charlotte. Specifically mentioned MKG and Beal. Slamming the Kings as well. Par for the course. ESPN and Ford specifically hate MJ and the Bobcats.
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Post#607 » by Stun704 » Sat Jun 2, 2012 12:56 am

CHA_77_Bobcats wrote:I think Drummond's ceiling is what Greg Oden was supposed to be, but he could bust.
T-Rob's ceiling is nowhere near that.

T-Rob's absolute ceiling is a Karl Malone type player(Prototypical athletic PF with a high motor), his probable ceiling is Larry Johnson, his floor is David West

Drummonds absolute ceiling is Dwight with an offensive game. his probable ceiling is DeAndre Jordan, his floor is Darko Millic
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Post#608 » by TheKingofSting » Sat Jun 2, 2012 1:18 am

We could trade down and hope Drummond would fall to #6 and then get Rivers at #11.
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Post#609 » by SWedd523 » Sat Jun 2, 2012 1:36 am

Robinson looked huge in that lottery drawing picture. This one paints a bit of a different story. Shows you how much pictures can lie. Really looking forward to seeing how he measures at the combine

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Post#610 » by TheKingofSting » Sat Jun 2, 2012 1:39 am

SWedd523 wrote:Robinson looked huge in that lottery drawing picture. This one paints a bit of a different story. Shows you how much pictures can lie. Really looking forward to seeing how he measures at the combine

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He is the same size as Barnes or maybe a little shorter lol :dontknow:
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Post#611 » by countryboi » Sat Jun 2, 2012 1:46 am

SWedd523 wrote:Robinson looked huge in that lottery drawing picture. This one paints a bit of a different story. Shows you how much pictures can lie. Really looking forward to seeing how he measures at the combine

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Robinson is clearly shorter than Barnes in that picture....ugh
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Post#612 » by penquin11 » Sat Jun 2, 2012 1:50 am

MPM wrote:T-rob = $100
Drummond = what's in the box

This is what separates us.


The only box comparison that makes sense for Drummond is that he is essentially the Pandora's Box pick of this draft. He has the potential to change the direction of the Bobcats for the better- and I mean like franchise player better- but at the same time he could end up being a total bust and set us back by up to 2 years.
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Post#613 » by SWedd523 » Sat Jun 2, 2012 1:50 am

He looked taller than Drummond in the other one though. I didn't post the picture to make him look bad or anything, I'm just trying to say pictures can lie
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Post#614 » by -Ian- » Sat Jun 2, 2012 1:53 am

Jeff Goodman's Big Board

He have us taking Beal at 2.
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Post#615 » by TheKingofSting » Sat Jun 2, 2012 1:56 am

We just can't afford to take a 6'7 PF
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Post#616 » by SWedd523 » Sat Jun 2, 2012 2:01 am

Kemba2Hendo wrote:We just can't afford to take a 6'7 PF

I think we get the fact that you don't like him. It's pretty clear.

But you simply don't know how tall he is so it's probably best to not exaggerate things to try and make a point.
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Post#617 » by TheKingofSting » Sat Jun 2, 2012 2:02 am

-Ian- wrote:Jeff Goodman's Big Board

He have us taking Beal at 2.


Looks spot on. At least the third mock I've seen to have Robinson 5th or lower.
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Post#618 » by TheKingofSting » Sat Jun 2, 2012 2:03 am

SWedd523 wrote:
Kemba2Hendo wrote:We just can't afford to take a 6'7 PF

I think we get the fact that you don't like him. It's pretty clear.

But you simply don't know how tall he is so it's probably best to not exaggerate things to try and make a point.


Barnes is 6'8 and he is clearly shorter than him. Drummond in that pic clearly has 3 inches on him and he's listed at 6'10. You do the math.
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Post#619 » by SWedd523 » Sat Jun 2, 2012 2:08 am

Kemba2Hendo wrote:
SWedd523 wrote:
Kemba2Hendo wrote:We just can't afford to take a 6'7 PF

I think we get the fact that you don't like him. It's pretty clear.

But you simply don't know how tall he is so it's probably best to not exaggerate things to try and make a point.


Barnes is 6'8 and he is clearly shorter than him. Drummond in that pic clearly has 3 inches on him and he's listed at 6'10. You do the math.

Using a picture as the basis of your "math" is flawed from the start.

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Post#620 » by doc.end » Sat Jun 2, 2012 2:09 am

SWedd523 wrote:"We want Gilchrist"... Cleveland trades #4 and #24 for #2

"We want Drummond"... Portland trades #6 and #11 for #4


1. NOH - Davis
2. CLE - Gilchrist
3. WAS - Beal
4. POR - Drummond
5. SAC - Barnes


Get Robinson at 6, Lamb at 11?

I am yet to do proper research but I would love it. But... I doubt Barnes would leapfrogged Robsinon, even if Blazers would be willing to do that deal... Lamb should not make it to 11... other teams are not guaranteed to stay put (unless we make them believe a trade with us is imminent binding their hands)

On theo ther hand we never know, somebody could reach for Sullinger, Barnes, Lamb, someone else ... too bad there is no Atlanta nor Memphis in this lottery :D
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