Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXV: Offseason Edition)

trebone · Post #421 » by **trebone** » Sat Jun 2, 2012 8:23 pm

Does anybody have a history of Bowers GM moves?

NEM · Post #422 » by **NEM** » Sat Jun 2, 2012 8:37 pm

All I know is I don't want Bower or Shaq. Just about anyone else would be fine. However, Like most of you I want Weaver, Pritchard, or Lindsey as well as Walsh in the FO.

Shaw for coach

OrlChamps2030 · Post #423 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Sat Jun 2, 2012 8:43 pm

RawLewD12 wrote:All I know is I don't want Bower or Shaq. Just about anyone else would be fine. However, Like most of you I want Weaver, Pritchard, or Lindsey as well as Walsh in the FO.

Shaw for coach

Post #424 » by **ChosenSavior** » Sat Jun 2, 2012 8:45 pm

magicfan84 wrote:Does anybody have a history of Bowers GM moves?

Most of it is listed on this Wiki page... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeff_Bower ... ketball%29

Some good, some not so good. He just seems average to me. I really hope Orlando is going after guys who not only draft well but also has good vision for the future of the club so that we are always in contention.

Weaver, Lindsey, or Pritchard would fit that bill for me.

Post #425 » by **Bensational** » Sat Jun 2, 2012 8:46 pm

Zmill... wtf dude??? you got a lot of money riding on these games or something? is someone holding your mum hostage until the Magic win a championship?

Post #426 » by **Bensational** » Sat Jun 2, 2012 8:47 pm

if Bower comes in, i take that as a sign that the Magic are trading Dwight, and want someone who's happy to be the fall guy and start the rebuild.

i also take it as a sign that nothing has changed in Orlando.

OrlChamps2030 · Post #427 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Sat Jun 2, 2012 8:52 pm

Bensational wrote:Zmill... wtf dude??? you got a lot of money riding on these games or something? is someone holding your mum hostage until the Magic win a championship?

Lol I apologize for the murderer/rapist comment wasn't the best wording. I was moreso just trying to get the point across that as a franchise we should move past the Mickey Mouse good characters only type of team building. Winning is Winning IMO

cb1115 · Post #428 » by **cb1115** » Sat Jun 2, 2012 9:25 pm

Brian K. Schmitz ‏@MagicInsider
Brian Shaw reportedly did not receive offer from Bobcats or maybe it was other way around. Shaw's waiting on the Magic.

Brian K. Schmitz ‏@MagicInsider
League source: "Brian Shaw is the one guy, who as coach, as a former player, can get to Dwight Howard."

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. HIRE THIS MAN. I DON'T CARE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A GM.

No seriously, hire him.

Noonskadoodle · Post #429 » by **Noonskadoodle** » Sat Jun 2, 2012 9:26 pm

cb1115 wrote:
Brian K. Schmitz ‏@MagicInsider
Brian Shaw reportedly did not receive offer from Bobcats or maybe it was other way around. Shaw's waiting on the Magic.

Brian K. Schmitz ‏@MagicInsider
League source: "Brian Shaw is the one guy, who as coach, as a former player, can get to Dwight Howard."

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. HIRE THIS MAN. I DON'T CARE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A GM.

No seriously, hire him.

Tayswagzzz · Post #430 » by **Tayswagzzz** » Sat Jun 2, 2012 9:34 pm

Noonskadoodle wrote:
cb1115 wrote:
Brian K. Schmitz ‏@MagicInsider
Brian Shaw reportedly did not receive offer from Bobcats or maybe it was other way around. Shaw's waiting on the Magic.

Brian K. Schmitz ‏@MagicInsider
League source: "Brian Shaw is the one guy, who as coach, as a former player, can get to Dwight Howard."

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. HIRE THIS MAN. I DON'T CARE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A GM.

No seriously, hire him.

Tayswagzzz · Post #431 » by **Tayswagzzz** » Sat Jun 2, 2012 9:36 pm

Any combination of Shaw/?? Works for me. Even bower. C'mon, anyone can be better than Otis! Right?? Lol. Lindsey/Weaver would be my choice though. Fresh faces for a fresh new culture in Orlando.

PeePee la Fritz · Post #432 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Sat Jun 2, 2012 9:55 pm

cb1115 wrote:
Brian K. Schmitz ‏@MagicInsider
Brian Shaw reportedly did not receive offer from Bobcats or maybe it was other way around. Shaw's waiting on the Magic.

Brian K. Schmitz ‏@MagicInsider
League source: "Brian Shaw is the one guy, who as coach, as a former player, can get to Dwight Howard."

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD. HIRE THIS MAN. I DON'T CARE THAT WE DON'T HAVE A GM.

No seriously, hire him.

*EDIT:

Although I doubt a new GM would be very happy that he did not get to hand select his coach. Even if Shaw would have been their guy, I can still see how it would be upsetting or a deal breaker to a guy like Lindsey or Weaver.

BelgianMagic · Post #433 » by **BelgianMagic** » Sat Jun 2, 2012 10:15 pm

Hiring Brian Shaw and Weaver or Lindsey would be 2 steps in the right direction for this team.

1) Shaw is gonna be a great HC, and still young so he could be here for a long time
2) We would have a GM with a realistic vision on the game of basketball, unlike Otis "I like having no backup Center or athletic players" Smith

Both these guys can help our team take 2 more steps towards success.

1) Make the team play a smoother, more creative offense. No more "3 .. 2 .. 1 .. BOMBS AWAY !!" offense
2) Make the team more balanced. Find a better balance between Veterans/Young guys + Athleticism/Shooting

There's still a lot of work to be done. That's why I like the fact that Martins is taking his time before hiring someone. Make sure you make the right decision. And don't let the past play a part in this, so please no Bower. He's been on the market for some time, and there's a reason Weaver/Lindsey/Pritchard get more intrest from other teams lookin for a GM than Bower. I never liked how he managed the Hornets. Made some questionable decisions ..

Giving the chance to Shaw & Weaver/Lindsey would be a fresh start for this team ..

mattyBoi · Post #434 » by **mattyBoi** » Sat Jun 2, 2012 10:31 pm

Zmill wrote:
Bensational wrote:Zmill... wtf dude??? you got a lot of money riding on these games or something? is someone holding your mum hostage until the Magic win a championship?

Lol I apologize for the murderer/rapist comment wasn't the best wording. I was moreso just trying to get the point across that as a franchise we should move past the Mickey Mouse good characters only type of team building. Winning is Winning IMO

Now this, I can agree with.

NickAnderson · Post #435 » by **NickAnderson** » Sat Jun 2, 2012 10:54 pm

If Alex said he wants a proven coach then we sure as hell are not hiring Shaw.

MagicMan89 · Post #436 » by **MagicMan89** » Sat Jun 2, 2012 11:04 pm

Bower would be my last choice out of the list of GM canidates we have seen. If we hire him though I am willing to give him a chance. The guy spend 14 years in N.O. doing everything from scouting to coaching and GM. He dealt with a team moving to different cities and ownership that was not commited. Otis had worn out the fan base, we should be excited that we are looking at a fresh start.

arsenal6106 · Post #437 » by **arsenal6106** » Sat Jun 2, 2012 11:13 pm

NickAnderson wrote:If Alex said he wants a proven coach then we sure as hell are not hiring Shaw.

Did he really say that? I thought he said he wanted someone with "championship" experience. I'm only basing this off the press conference he gave after the firing.

AgEnT50 · Post #438 » by **AgEnT50** » Sat Jun 2, 2012 11:17 pm

IAMAGM.com ‏@IAMAGM

Rumors: Nate McMillan to interview for Magic coaching job, Brian Shaw the favorite in Charlotte http://dlvr.it/1ft2Js

https://twitter.com/#!/IAMAGM

MagicMan89 · Post #439 » by **MagicMan89** » Sat Jun 2, 2012 11:18 pm

AgEnT50 wrote:
IAMAGM.com ‏@IAMAGM

Rumors: Nate McMillan to interview for Magic coaching job, Brian Shaw the favorite in Charlotte http://dlvr.it/1ft2Js

https://twitter.com/#!/IAMAGM

We need to lock in a GM. I dont want Otis Smiths staff working our draft and coach search.

D12VCMagic · Post #440 » by **D12VCMagic** » Sat Jun 2, 2012 11:22 pm

It would really be lame if we hired McMillan and Shaw ends up in Charlotte.