Summer 2012 Free Agents Thread - Part II

[closg00]

Hey! I'm all for making an offer to Batum, but I doubt Ted is ready to spend yet.

[verbal8]

Hey! I'm all for making an offer to Batum, but I doubt Ted is ready to spend yet.

If he wants to get out of the lottery I think this isn't a bad line-up:

Starters:

Wall
Beal or Batum
Batum or MKG
Nene
Seraphin

Bench:

Booker
Vesely
Cartier Martin
Mo Almond
wing or back-up PG FA?
Mack

Depth:
Crawford
C. Singleton
2nd rounder or Roger Mason
2nd rounder

I would like to keep James Singleton, but putting the line-up out there I don't see an ability to give him significant minutes(unless he can play SF). I can definitely see Almond or Martin being replaced. One argument for keeping them rather than upgrading is it would give Chris Singleton the ability to earn minutes this season.

[Ruzious]

Green's star has not been shining in the playoffs - probably making him an affordable target. His shooting percentages have been okay, but he's gotten to the line for a total of 10 foul shots, and the tv commentators have been making comments questioning his toughness.

Yeah, but the reason he'd be affordable is he's sucked hard when they needed him the most. Count me as not overly excited about landing Green. I could live with it, but I'm not one to jump on people who suck under the harsh spotlight of playoff basketball.

And what I was saying is that the perception that he's sucked is skewed in this series. He's been a bit disappointing but not as bad as perceived - probably lowering his price and making him more of a value signing. I'd judge a player by his full body of work - and Danny Green isn't just a jump shooter; He's a helluva defensive player. People are wowing about Leonard - and rightfully so for his offensive efficiency - but defensively, he's gotten his arse handed to him against OKC. Notice Green had the best +/- on the team in the last game, while Leonard had the worst. In all 4 games, Green's had a better +/- than Leonard.

[nate33]

Green's star has not been shining in the playoffs - probably making him an affordable target. His shooting percentages have been okay, but he's gotten to the line for a total of 10 foul shots, and the tv commentators have been making comments questioning his toughness.

Yeah, but the reason he'd be affordable is he's sucked hard when they needed him the most. Count me as not overly excited about landing Green. I could live with it, but I'm not one to jump on people who suck under the harsh spotlight of playoff basketball.

And what I was saying is that the perception that he's sucked is skewed in this series. He's been a bit disappointing but not as bad as perceived - probably lowering his price and making him more of a value signing. I'd judge a player by his full body of work - and Danny Green isn't just a jump shooter; He's a helluva defensive player. People are wowing about Leonard - and rightfully so for his offensive efficiency - but defensively, he's gotten his arse handed to him against OKC. Notice Green had the best +/- on the team in the last game, while Leonard had the worst. In all 4 games, Green's had a better +/- than Leonard.

Thank you Ruzious for keeping a level head.

Green's performance in this playoff series has been perfect... for a team like us who is interested in signing him as a free agent. He has played pretty decently overall but has had a few high profile bad outings that might drive down his value. His numbers have been pretty solid: a PER of 12.7 in an extremely low usage role, a TS% of .557, and a modestly positive on/off differential on a great team.

I still say he should be our number one low-budget target. If we can get him for 4 million a year or less, I'd be extremely happy. At that price, he's a bargain as a starter and he's not dramatically overpaid if he's in a 20 mpg bench role. If possible, I'd like to get him on a 2-year deal with a team option on year 3, but if we have to go 4 years, I'd still pull the trigger.

[nate33]

If that doesn't work, I would figure out the exact amount we can pay a guy now while maintaining max cap room for next year. Then I would target a player who can play the 2 or the 3 and sign him to, say, a 4/18 deal. If we get lucky and sign Harden or another FA, or draft a starting caliber 2/3 next year, this 4/18 player would be the primary backup at both the 2/3 positions, justifying his cost for the next 3 years of his deal. If we can't find someone better next year, we would still have a starter who's not a complete joke.

+1

[jivelikenice]

My concern with Gerald Green is with his b-ball IQ & defense. And after a fast started he faded a bit at the end of the year with the Nets. Plus there's not much history of him playing at a high level. He's not someone I'd feel comfortable overpaying for at this stage.

I don't really see how he slowed down. He avg 15 ppg, shot 46% from the field and 41% from 3 in April. I also don't think you'd be overpaying him. You could likely land Gerald Green for somewhere between $3-$4 MM per and he has the talent to be more than just a role player. I certainly would take him at $3-$4 MM per before I'd sign Batum for $11-$12 MM per. We sign a player who at least IMO has more offensive upside than Batum (not nearly the D player though) and we maintain cap flexibility.

[Wizardspride]

Interest in Alonzo Gee


http://www.foxsportsohio.com/06/04/12/N ... eedID=3725

Several outlets have already reported the Suns are prepared to make a run at Gee – with a source telling The News-Herald the Suns could extend “a four-year, $16 million offer and hope the Cavs don’t match it.”

The Suns, of course, aren’t alone. League sources told FOX Sports Ohio the Wizards, Celtics and Rockets will also enter free agency with Gee high on their wish list.

Meanwhile, since the Cavs have the right to match any offer, they can afford to wait. Their plan likely consists of seeing who falls to them in the draft (they own the Nos. 4 and 24 picks in the first round), then tackling the Gee situation immediately after that.

“They like (Gee) and hope to keep him,” said an Eastern Conference general manager. “But they’re going to have to fight for him, and they know that. I’m guessing a lot of how they approach it will be a result of what they do draft-wise.”

Gee reportedly earned just more than $884,000 last season, playing in 63 of a possible 66 games.

[Rafael122]

Gee at $16 million? Pass. I'd put that money towards Batum.

[7-Day Dray]

Interest in Alonzo Gee


http://www.foxsportsohio.com/06/04/12/N ... eedID=3725

Several outlets have already reported the Suns are prepared to make a run at Gee – with a source telling The News-Herald the Suns could extend “a four-year, $16 million offer and hope the Cavs don’t match it.”

The Suns, of course, aren’t alone. League sources told FOX Sports Ohio the Wizards, Celtics and Rockets will also enter free agency with Gee high on their wish list.

Meanwhile, since the Cavs have the right to match any offer, they can afford to wait. Their plan likely consists of seeing who falls to them in the draft (they own the Nos. 4 and 24 picks in the first round), then tackling the Gee situation immediately after that.

“They like (Gee) and hope to keep him,” said an Eastern Conference general manager. “But they’re going to have to fight for him, and they know that. I’m guessing a lot of how they approach it will be a result of what they do draft-wise.”

Gee reportedly earned just more than $884,000 last season, playing in 63 of a possible 66 games.

LOL @ $16M for Gee.

[Dat2U]

You could likely land Gerald Green for somewhere between $3-$4 MM per and he has the talent to be more than just a role player. I certainly would take him at $3-$4 MM per before I'd sign Batum for $11-$12 MM per. We sign a player who at least IMO has more offensive upside than Batum (not nearly the D player though) and we maintain cap flexibility.

If Alonzo Gee is getting $16 mil (Ha!), then Gerald Green is probably going to get a lot more than $3-4 mil per.

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

Not real enthused by either Green.

Wiz need a few things and neither of them absolutely excel at any of them... Deadeye shooter, can defend the top 3s in the East, can get to the rim at will and get calls late in games.

Agree too with earlier posts encouraging us to be wary of the Spurs effect. Mediocre players have career years there because their system, their coach and their core is so solid. (see Mason, Roger; Oberto, Fabricio).

Still think it's worth gambling big money on Batum. He can harass LeWhine, Pierce, Granger, Anthony, etc. and shoots well enough. With him in the fold on a long term deal, you hope Bradley Beal ends up as a legitimate NBA go to guy.

[Rafael122]

The whole Danny Green is two fold, he is struggling, he might be cheaper to sign now. Great, but that also means the Spurs have a better chance at re-signing him as well.

[Benjammin]

Not real enthused by either Green.

Wiz need a few things and neither of them absolutely excel at any of them... Deadeye shooter, can defend the top 3s in the East, can get to the rim at will and get calls late in games.

I'm glad your standards aren't too high at least. Even the best player in the game today (LBJ) is missing one of those qualities (dead-eye shooter). But you're right that those guys don't have any of those qualities. We can keep throwing Batum's name out there, but Paul Allen's checkbook will take care of any offer sheets Batum may receive.

[long suffrin' boulez fan]

^ what price/contract length do the Blazers not match?

Discuss.

[jivelikenice]

Batum isn't happening. Their new gm just came out and said re-signing him is a priority and they've already spoken to him & his agent. Only chance you get him is if you grossly overpay. Time to move on.

[hands11]

I'd be willing to go as high as 5 years 60 million for Batum. It would be grossly overpaying for what is essentially a super 3andD guy, but hes exactly what this team needs.

Its either go for this guy now or Harden next year. Harden is the better player of the two, dont get me wrong, but the Wiz cant afford to pass up a chance to acquire the top free agent at their greatest position of need.

Adding Batum and Beal, while retaining guys like Martin and J. Singleton would be my ideal offseason.

I wouldnt. New age. 3 years is the most i would go with a one year option.


If not, I would ride with what we have.

[B-easy]

Isn't Michael Beasley a free agent? I think we should go for him, we need quite a bit of help at that 3 spot.

[Nivek]

Beasley is a restricted free agent.

How do you envision him helping the Wizards?

[nate33]

Beasley is a restricted free agent.

How do you envision him helping the Wizards?

Well, he has been so successful playing the 3 in Minnesota that it would be shame not to let that tradition continue.

[closg00]

Lakers are interested in trading Hill for Beasley is what I read on IAMAGM