Official Raptors 2012 NBA Draft Thread, Part 12

[Indeed]

I think Portland is going to trade up.
Top 6 are:
Davis (1)
Drummond (2, 3, 4, 5, 6)
MKG (3, 4, 5)
Barnes (3, 4, 5)
Robinson (2, 5, 6)
Beal (2, 3, 4, 5, 6)
After top 6, it would be Lillard, Lamb, Sullinger and etc.

Speculation:
Rivers might be in between #9 - #14
PJ III at worst draft at #12 (Milwaukee)
Waiters at #13 (Phoenix)

[BillyGM]

I have a feeling Spurs are going to trade someone in order to get Meyers Leonard or Andre Drummond. They were high on Valanciunas last year.

[ATLTimekeeper]

I have a feeling Spurs are going to trade someone in order to get Meyers Leonard or Andre Drummond. They were high on Valanciunas last year.

Neither really strike me as Spur-type players, although apparently they did meet with Drummond.

[StMikes31]

I hope we don't take Lamb, the more I watch this guy's interviews, the more I would run away.

Lillard - Waiters -Harkless please

[Al_Oliver]

I have a feeling Spurs are going to trade someone in order to get Meyers Leonard or Andre Drummond. They were high on Valanciunas last year.

Neither really strike me as Spur-type players, although apparently they did meet with Drummond.

True, but Splitter is in line for more minutes. JV would have been a potential improvement on him, but Leonard isn't and still requires a couple years of development himself.

[OAKLEY_2]

I hope we don't take Lamb, the more I watch this guy's interviews, the more I would run away.

Lillard - Waiters -Harkless please

I agree with that order but I don't agree with the interview making or breaking a pick. The kid may be immature to a degree but he is a serious talent.

Lillard skilled PG of the future and smart.
Waiters skilled swing guard easily replaces Bayless and would have been be a very high pick next year.
Harkless, most intriguing pick of all with major upside, great skill package and again good head on his shoulders.

Lamb is in need of media training more than anything else. The agent must not like his current position (unknown) why else skip workouts? Would he want to be a Raptor? Sounds like the Lamb family has a long history with coach Calhoun so if he gets a better endorsement than he gave Charlie V he would easily be equal to those other candidates. At this point I like the potential of Harkless best but Lamb looks like he could be a great SG to push Demar. If we could get that NO 10th and get Harkless/Lamb this would be a great draft offseason. Sounds like JJ sadly, is on his way out.

[FluLikeSymptoms]

I think Portland is going to trade up.

Maybe. Hoopshype has OopsWorld reporting via tweeter that Portland is in talks to swap #6 and #11 for #4 and #24 with Cleveland, because Cleveland supposedly prefers Lamb to Beal (of course) and they think they can get him there. Also, that's a phenomenal deal for them.

I don't link to Oopsworld or tweeter but here's a link to compulsory daily reading.

http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

[JPHolling]

I think Portland is going to trade up.

Maybe. Hoopshype has OopsWorld reporting via tweeter that Portland is in talks to swap #6 and #11 for #4 and #24 with Cleveland, because Cleveland supposedly prefers Lamb to Beal (of course) and they think they can get him there. Also, that's a phenomenal deal for them.

I don't link to Oopsworld or tweeter but here's a link to compulsory daily reading.

http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm

I would be extremely happy if this occurs. the cavs could then use the 11th pick to draft someone like leonard
Im guessing portland would be targeting drummond if this trade went through

[bboyskinnylegs]

that would be a great trade for the Cavs. They could potentially walk away with both Barnes/Lamb (or if not Lamb, then Waiters/Rivers).

[ATLTimekeeper]

I don't buy that Portland would give up #11 just to move up two spots.

[Dr Positivity]

CLE throwing in Varejao to make the #4/#24 for #6/#11 swap would make sense for Portland IMO.

[dagger]

Some draft tidbits that involve the Raps or could be of use to us.

Quincy Miller said he expects to go anywhere from the late lottery to "the 20s," but one general manager said he could fall to the second round. Miller said he has workouts scheduled with Cleveland (Nos. 4, 24, 33 and 34 picks), Detroit (9, 39 and 44), Golden State (7, 30, 35 and 52), Houston (14 and 16), Denver (20, 38 and 50) and Dallas (17 and 55).

Around the draft combine
• It's a big week for Kentucky forward Terrence Jones, who has been seen as a mid-first-round pick for quite some time but has a chance to move up. It's no secret that the Warriors are considering him (either for No. 7 or if they trade down), and I'm told that Sacramento (No. 5) is very intrigued as well. He'll work out with both teams this week, a source said, visiting the Warriors on Monday in a face-off against Baylor forward Perry Jones (Zeller and Vanderbilt center Festus Ezeli will be in that workout too) before his Sacramento visit. Terrence Jones said he is also scheduled to work out for Atlanta (No. 23), Orlando (19), and Denver (20).
• Washington's Terrence Ross has serious sleeper potential, and all of it -- the range, quickness and athleticism -- is there for teams to see in this process. The 6-7, 197-pound guard is taking the nothing-to-hide approach to promoting himself. He said he has already worked out with the Timberwolves, Celtics, Nuggets and Hornets, and has sessions scheduled with the Raptors, 76ers, Suns and Trail Blazers. He averaged 16.4 points and 6.4 rebounds for the Huskies last season while playing alongside a point guard in fellow draft prospect Tony Wroten who had more turnovers (132) than assists (130).
• An informal poll of executives after the combine produced the following list of players who helped their causes either through their play or their measurements: Lillard, Ross, Kansas' Robinson, Ohio State power forward Jared Sullinger, St. John's small forward Moe Harkless, Illinois center Meyers Leonard, Syracuse center Fab Melo, Marquette shooting guard Darius Johnson-Odom, Missouri shooting guard Kim English and Norfolk State power forward Kyle O'Quinn.

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/w ... z1xPXti4V0


So far, it looks like we have Lillard, Ross and Harkless coming in this week, at the very least.

[BirdmanPresents]

I updated my top 10 for the Raptors. Rivers is back in my top 10 post measurements, and I'm starting to get on the Lillard bandwagon.

Ideally at 8 I'd like to take Sullinger if he is available, if not then Lillard followed by Rivers.

I dropped Lamb out, wasn't high on him at all but gave him the benefit of the doubt since so many posters were in love with him. His only real positive for me was his length which disappointed abit (although still very good) in his measurements. I don't think his length will make up for his other flaws. Doesn't seem too engaged during the workouts.

[DreamTeam09]

It would suck to see barnes go 7th right infront of us. Maybe we can entice them on a 7-8 swap.

[fredericklove]

I hope we don't take Lamb, the more I watch this guy's interviews, the more I would run away.

Lillard - Waiters -Harkless please

I agree with that order but I don't agree with the interview making or breaking a pick. The kid may be immature to a degree but he is a serious talent.

Lillard skilled PG of the future and smart.
Waiters skilled swing guard easily replaces Bayless and would have been be a very high pick next year.
Harkless, most intriguing pick of all with major upside, great skill package and again good head on his shoulders.

Lamb is in need of media training more than anything else. The agent must not like his current position (unknown) why else skip workouts? Would he want to be a Raptor? Sounds like the Lamb family has a long history with coach Calhoun so if he gets a better endorsement than he gave Charlie V he would easily be equal to those other candidates. At this point I like the potential of Harkless best but Lamb looks like he could be a great SG to push Demar. If we could get that NO 10th and get Harkless/Lamb this would be a great draft offseason. Sounds like JJ sadly, is on his way out.

About time someone makes a logical analysis of Lamb, the late interview sure gave alot of anti-Lamb people extra salts to add to their Lamb criticism talk. Its skillset thats incredibly important, what you do on the court should outweigh the uhhh...lol, the interviews.

[FluLikeSymptoms]

It would suck to see barnes go 7th right infront of us. Maybe we can entice them on a 7-8 swap.

No thanks. But it would force them to deal Wright or not make a QO to Rush, because they also have RJ who is owed $21 mil over two years and can't have any trade value. I'd like one of those two guys on the cheap. I even like McGuire, another of their SFs.

But I really think they're going big and, unless they deal their pick, we may as well be drafting #7 already.

[Marlo Stanfield]

I'm not a Barnes hater by any means, in fact I'm a Barnes supporter. I love the kid, great personality and work ethic. But the numbers he put up when Kendall Marshall wasn't there to feed him the ball scare me. I have a feeling he could drop, and I'm not even sure I'd take him if he did. I NEED guys who watched him almost night in and night out to sell me on why it wasn't a bad thing that he changed for the worse when his point guard was absent.

[northernlight]

I'm not a Barnes hater by any means, in fact I'm a Barnes supporter. I love the kid, great personality and work ethic. But the numbers he put up when Kendall Marshall wasn't there to feed him the ball scare me. I have a feeling he could drop, and I'm not even sure I'd take him if he did. I NEED guys who watched him almost night in and night out to sell me on why it wasn't a bad thing that he changed for the worse when his point guard was absent.

Isn't that why we should draft Kendall Marshall? Makes everybody better. Nah, too simple. What was I thinking.

[Marlo Stanfield]

I'm not a Barnes hater by any means, in fact I'm a Barnes supporter. I love the kid, great personality and work ethic. But the numbers he put up when Kendall Marshall wasn't there to feed him the ball scare me. I have a feeling he could drop, and I'm not even sure I'd take him if he did. I NEED guys who watched him almost night in and night out to sell me on why it wasn't a bad thing that he changed for the worse when his point guard was absent.

Isn't that why we should draft Kendall Marshall? Makes everybody better. Nah, too simple. What was I thinking.

You weren't thinking. Who's Kendall Marshall going to stop? The man can't guard a pylon. If you want the younger Calderon go right ahead and pick Marshall though.

[northernlight]

He could stop Jose from dribbling for 22 seconds before hitting DD for an off balance forced shot. He could stop JB from chucking.