Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXVI: Offseason Edition)

D12Magic89 · Post #401 » by **D12Magic89** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:50 pm

thelead wrote:
BelgianMagic wrote:
Josh Robbins ‏@JoshuaBRobbins
The #Magic and Jameer Nelson have agreed to extend his deadline to exercise his player option from Friday to June 29.

hmm...

Damn....FAIL!! :-?

Post #402 » by **Def Swami** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:52 pm

D12Magic89 wrote:
thelead wrote:
BelgianMagic wrote:

hmm...

Damn....FAIL!!

this could be a good thing. could try to work a sign and trade or straight up trade if he opts in.

Post #403 » by **Def Swami** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:52 pm

Dan Savage ‏@Dan_Savage
The @NBA has approved an amendment to @JameerNelson's contract, delaying the potential opt out date from June 15 to June 29.

I need some answers :-?

Friday after the draft is a rather odd deadline.

BelgianMagic · Post #404 » by **BelgianMagic** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:53 pm

arkknight1988 wrote:where is our capspace expert? what do we look like without nelson wafer clark jj anderson ish orton and jrich?

Clark has a player option, don't know if he took it or not?

Without Nelson/Wafer/Clark/JJ/Anderson/Orton/Ish we're at 8mil

thelead · Post #405 » by **thelead** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:53 pm

arkknight1988 wrote:where is our capspace expert? what do we look like without nelson wafer clark jj anderson ish orton and jrich?

we could have ~$14-17 mil depending on the sources for contracts. We could go after DWill... If we could package a few picks with hedo, we could have a Dwight/DWill/JSmith core after next summer.

Post #406 » by **Def Swami** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:56 pm

Either Jameer wants to see who the new GM will be and their vision for the team or a trade is being cooked up.

Nyce_1 · Post #407 » by **Nyce_1** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:56 pm

If we can somehow trade Turk, let Jameer opt out, waive Redick, and renounce Ryan, we can sign DWill outright.

D12VCMagic · Post #408 » by **D12VCMagic** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:57 pm

It gives us the option to trade Jameer on draft night, I'm not sure why Jameer would agree to that. Very odd situation though, and with no GM still, our future remains cloudy.

Post #409 » by **Def Swami** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:59 pm

D12VCMagic wrote:It gives us the option to trade Jameer on draft night, I'm not sure why Jameer would agree to that. Very odd situation though, and with no GM still, our future remains cloudy.

Can it give us that right? I was under the impression that a player can't be traded after the trade deadline of the year that he can opt out of a deal.

The Real Dalic · Post #410 » by **The Real Dalic** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:00 pm

Today is a weird news day. . . At least we're getting news.

thelead · Post #411 » by **thelead** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:01 pm

D12VCMagic wrote:It gives us the option to trade Jameer on draft night, I'm not sure why Jameer would agree to that. Very odd situation though, and with no GM still, our future remains cloudy.

I'm not sure how the whole trading a player with an option works. That would be a great question to ask the CBA expert that I no longer remember...

Post #412 » by **Def Swami** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:04 pm

Nelson and his agent, Steve Mountain, asked the Magic for a deadline extension because the team has not yet hired a general manager to replace Otis Smith. Nelson and Mountain want to learn what the eventual hire's plans are for Nelson and for the rest of the team.

Full Story: http://ht.ly/bAErT

Josh Robbins ‏@JoshuaBRobbins
Jameer wanted an extension because he & his agent want to speak w/new GM before he makes a choice.

Josh Robbins ‏@JoshuaBRobbins
The team didn't have to agree to this. But it seems like the #Magic showed him some loyalty after the GM search dragged on.

#Loyalty

magicman123 · Post #413 » by **magicman123** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:05 pm

jameer wants to get paid, but at the same time he doesn't want to leave $8mil on the table..with no GM in place this makes sense for him

thelead · Post #414 » by **thelead** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:09 pm

Does this mean that Martins expects the GM/Coach search to drag on?

mattyBoi · Post #415 » by **mattyBoi** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:11 pm

If Jameer opts out, we cut JJ, waive Anderson's rights, find a way to trade either J Rich or Davis and use the stretch provision on the guy we don't trade we will be sitting real nice. Sign Deron Williams outright kinda nice.

With Hedo, Q, and Duhon coming off the books the following season.

MoMM · Post #416 » by **MoMM** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:16 pm

VGOSWAMI wrote:
D12VCMagic wrote:It gives us the option to trade Jameer on draft night, I'm not sure why Jameer would agree to that. Very odd situation though, and with no GM still, our future remains cloudy.

Can it give us that right? I was under the impression that a player can't be traded after the trade deadline of the year that he can opt out of a deal.

I was pretty sure about it too.

arkknight1988, Wafer is already gone and we didnt pick Orton's option either.

Nyce_1 · Post #417 » by **Nyce_1** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:22 pm

Sam Amick about to be on the air with Kyler talking about the finals and the Magic GM & Coach search.

http://www.espnflorida.com/espn-1040-station/

Cigamodnalro · Post #418 » by **Cigamodnalro** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:25 pm

mattyBoi wrote:If Jameer opts out, we cut JJ, waive Anderson's rights, find a way to trade either J Rich or Davis and use the stretch provision on the guy we don't trade we will be sitting real nice. Sign Deron Williams outright kinda nice.

With Hedo, Q, and Duhon coming off the books the following season.

Can we sign Ray Allen to MLE and Rashard Lewis to LLE while we're at it? Could totally deal with this

Dwight Howard, Daniel Orton
Rashard Lewis, Earl Clark, Justin Harper
Hedo Turkoglu, Quentin Richardson
Ray Allen, DeAndre Liggins
Deron Williams, Chris Duhon, Ish Smith

With Hedo, Duhon, and potentially Shard/Allen/scrubs coming off the books for 2013.

Neon1 · Post #419 » by **Neon1** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:34 pm

magicman123 wrote:jameer wants to get paid, but at the same time he doesn't want to leave $8mil on the table..with no GM in place this makes sense for him

Take it for what it's worth, but DJChino (102Jamz) who loosely knows a lot of the guys, told me that Jameer packed up his stuff and moved his cars out 3 weeks ago.

arkknight1988 · Post #420 » by **arkknight1988** » Thu Jun 14, 2012 10:37 pm

Neon1 wrote:
magicman123 wrote:jameer wants to get paid, but at the same time he doesn't want to leave $8mil on the table..with no GM in place this makes sense for him

Take it for what it's worth, but DJChino (102Jamz) who loosely knows a lot of the guys, told me that Jameer packed up his stuff and moved his cars out 3 weeks ago.

dwight must have informed him of the plan to bring dwill this summer