TheDrunkenOak wrote:fredericklove wrote:
See, you don't even have enough counter argument on my response, rather you're just coming back at me on questioning definitions of "dictionary". You keep believing what you think about the term "motor" and for some reason, you never heard of the word "intangibles". It's a very popular term to use in basketball. Well, if you don't believe me. Go post a thread on the board and ask what intangibles are and ask them where competitiveness and intensity belongs to, mark my word you'll end up being embarrassed about your lack of basketball knowledge especially in this case where you're not able to distinguish where competitiveness and intensity belongs to.
-I really didn't want to do this. But since you like to act like a jacka$$...
-Sure, i'll play your game and i'll mark your words. So let's see who who will be more embarrassed.
-We are not talking about intangibles, we are talking about "motor" and what the definition of "motor" is.
-I said "motor" is...TheDrunkenOak wrote:MOTOR = Intensity, Competitiveness, Hustle
-You said "motor" is...fredericklove wrote:Now what is motor? It means anything that makes you move, something having to do with muscular movement. In basketball wise, it means keeping your arms up, move your feet, do anything to keep yourself moving on the floor.
-So now that is laid out. I was going to post a video when Lamb was talking about his "motor", but since i doubt you'll be able to comprehend what he's elaborating, so instead here's a link to an interview, with both Perry Jones and Jeremy Lamb talking about their "motor". I'll walk you through it, step by step, i'll even dumb it down for you, so that you can understand. Ok? Below, i've highlighted the parts for you already. I'll post the link to the interview with Andy Katz at the bottom of my post.
"It's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity," Jones said. "I wanted to show that it wasn't the same Perry Jones in college."
Who was that Perry Jones?
"Very modest and laid-back," Jones said of himself. "[He] didn't have a motor and got down on himself if he missed shots."
How about that? Jones said he didn't have a "motor" in college.
-Wow, Jones said it himself, he didn't have a motor. So by going with your definition of "motor" that means Jones didn't have any muscle movement when he was in college. Wow...he didn't even move at all!!! WOW!!! HOLY SHEET!!! I guess he only stood in one spot on the court for the whole game!!! Dam no wonder he's sliding down the draft.
-Now let's take a look at the next line.
Jones was clearly not as aggressive on every play like teammate Quincy Acy. The key for any team that will be investing millions of dollars in Jones will be to see if he has found his motor in the two months since the season ended.
-In this sentence, Katz is again talking about aggressiveness and referencing Jones' "motor" and comparing it to Quincy Acy's "motor" - hmmm... is aggressiveness countable or uncountable. Did he use the word "INTANGIBLES"??? Wow i didn't know you can count aggressiveness - 1 aggressives, 2 aggressives, 3 aggressives, 4...Oh my!!!
-Now let's take a look at Jeremy Lamb's interview...
Jeremy Lamb: Lamb didn't disguise his own shortcomings: the perception of his effort.
"I think sometimes I'm not as aggressive as I should [be]," said Lamb, the former UConn sophomore. "There were times when I would get going, and it gets competitive, and I'm against good players -- I think then I have a real good motor.
-Now here, Katz is referencing effort and aggressiveness with "MOTOR". Is he using the word "INTANGIBLES"??? Now, Lamb states his "motor" meaning 'effort', is good when it becomes competitive. Wow, i never knew you could count effort...here we go again!!! 1 efforts, 2 efforts 3 efforts...you get the drift.
-The next sentence from the interview...
"A lot of teams want to see my motor and see me compete, and it will depend on the workouts."
-So by your definition, teams want to see him run around, put his arms in the air, keep his feet moving. BWAHAHAHA!!!
Here's the link. Scroll down to the third interview.
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketb ... /katz_andy
-Here is my counter argument laid out very succinctly. So let's hear your argument, with facts of course. Which i doubt you will because you have nothing but your bloated incoherent pathetic posts. They say you should think before you speak, but in your case, think before you type.
-Now, I really didn't want to do any this. I figured you would just go ask someone to confirm before attacking me. But i am not surprised, FrederickLove, because you're a joke. Your posts are a pathetic joke. And nobody takes you seriously... You're like the r3tarded kid that everyone tolerates, but really, nobody wants around.
First of all, don't fool yourself into thinking a bit of name calling will get to me. It actually amuses me that you label me as a "jacka$s" but I say it is truly an honor to be entitled to the "jacka$s" label. No one takes me seriously? Well you seem to take me seriously, you're losing your cool and apparently you got offended by me for being a jacka$s
and now the names calling, who's taking it seriously now I don't see how explaining things and feeding you basketball knowledge means I'm a jacka$s, haha oh boy, so much hate, my brother, why so seriously mad? Mr. Now let's see, I know its easy for a poster to lose his cool when he has to talk to someone like me, a jacka$s. Calling me dumb, a joke, a r3tarded kid, cmon now, keep it classy. Now let's take a deep breath and chill, so I can explain again in a better wayYou know what it is that you've done wrong. You made one huge mistake. What is it? Now, you keep throwing me the word "aggressiveness" constantly, is that the word that I claimed as not being part of motor? I never said anything about that word. Hey, stay focus, it is the word "intensity" that I was talking about that doesn't belong to the motor category. This is where you put intensity as part of motor definition and I highly disagree w/ it. So the whole time you keep throwing me facts/links on the word aggressiveness over and over again in the whole post so I'm like, you mistaken things and now u keep going at something that didn't even belong in our discussion. So who's being um, embarrassed now? Reread my previous post more carefully, please
Take a deep breath before you lose your cool again. Now, lets hear it. Intensity and aggressiveness are not the same thing. Let me thoroughly explain it in a better way. Intensity has to do w/ a player's mental focus. Its the inner drive that makes them plays the game the hardest way they can. E.g. Kevin Garnett, plays the game so hard because he's a very intense person. Now that intensity is part of intangible. One more thing, Intangibles also include things like work ethic and discipline. Just in case you don't know what it means again.
Now comes aggressiveness, it's part of motor of course. You play the game very physical, aggressive to the paint, aggressive on the board, aggressive on the defensive end, these are part of body movement so it's definitely a part of motor. So fellow poster, you have to focus on what I'm talking about, okay? So we can withdraw that PJ3/Acy case about aggressiveness, throw it aside because you made a mistake on thinking I didn't think aggressiveness is part of motor right? Moving on.
Now, for Lamb. What he said is basically is if he's able to be more aggressive (motor), then that will get his game going, which means getting him going mentally more focus and more discipline (intangible) so it will make things competitive. As I already said aggressiveness is part of motor, so your Lamb and PJ3 cases aren't really doing much in this argument unless you're talking about Lamb not being aggressive. Everyone agrees with that already. Also, intangible is not the word you throw out in interviews, its from scouting analysis that you put this word in place, that's why you see people say I'm competitive, I stay discipline, and I'm very intense, these are part of intangible factors.
Motor means getting yourself active, so why is it a problem when I say get your feet moving, instead of just standing there, or getting your arms up, bothering shots, bothering the defender, or getting your hands up and down, side to side, spread them out to disrupt the passing lane, or moving your feet, keep yourself active by moving around more, go around screens, instead of just standing there, get yourself active and by being active, such as going str8 to the basket, or going through screens to shake off your defender so you can get open shots opportunities, or rolling into the lane to get layups or dunks etc. My definition of motor in this case means "being consistently active".
You can argue Lamb doesn't have a high motor, but by no means he has a low motor, and he admits himself not getting it going all the time but when he does, he's often found on the floor moving his feet alot by constantly moving around going through screens offensively, and keeping hands up active to bother the passing lane defensively, getting his steals but footwork is one area he isn't really solid at because he doesn't always stay active on defense. It almost becomes a common habit for alot of good players because they tend to reserve their energy for offensive end so they often not go at it on defense. My definition of motor is one that keeps himself active, active, active, so these things I've just said, such as"hands up actively, moving your feet actively" are not being active? And not being part of what good motor is?
So anyways, I don't expect apologies from you for calling me all kinds of things because I don't know if these names calling are necessary from an adult. But hey, call me a jacka$s, r3tarded kid or a joke if it makes you happy. I'm not losing my cool. I'm just explaining things in the rightful manner, correcting the things in your post even though yea, I might sound sarcastic
but I'm mature enough to not scoop to the names calling level. Calling someone petty names doesn't make you sound any smarter. So I'd encourage you to take a step up to the classy level, after all, we all discuss basketball here while remaining civilized with each other. I supposed sarcasm is allowed here right? You can be sarcastic if you want. I'm okay with that.
