Official Trade Thread XIX: 3/14/12 - 6/22/12

GUYANNAGRIZZLI · Post #1381 » by **GUYANNAGRIZZLI** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 4:45 pm

Dorell Wright is a 3point shooting machine at Sf
He makes two 3 pointers per game at 40% and 10ppg in 27 minutes
I think he is between 8 th to 10th better Sf in NBA
The problem is that he has only 1 year of contract left at 4 milions and Wiz could only have him 1 year

Post #1382 » by **nate33** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:05 pm

Guyannagrizz, It's very frustrating to have a discussion with you because you get your facts wrong and you don't even understand the CBA.

Dorell Wright is a decent 3-point shooter, not a "machine". He averages .360 from 3-point range which is nice, but nothing to write home about. He ranks 29th in 3P% among the 45 players who averaged 4 or more 3-point attempts per game. His numbers are about the same as Jodie Meeks or Anthony Morrow.

He'd be a nice fit on this team but he's a fairly easy-to-find type of player. I see no reason to sacrifice Booker to get him when we can sign Danny Green or Brandon Rush to do the same thing.

mhd · Post #1383 » by **mhd** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:13 pm

What about this wild idea:

Wiz trade Nene for Harden+Perkins

OKC gets a a darn good big man in Nene who gives them a low post presence and balances out the team. They also get rid of Perkins and is 8.7 PER.

Wiz get Harden and extend him to form the core duo with Wall. They put Seraphin in as the starting center with Vessley backing him up. They then draft MKG at #3.
NEW LINEUP:
PG: Wall/Mack
SG: Harden/Crawford
SF: MKG/Singleton
PF: Booker/Vessley
C: Seraphin/Perkins

Post #1384 » by **nate33** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:18 pm

mhd wrote:What about this wild idea:

Wiz trade Nene for Harden+Perkins

OKC gets a a darn good big man in Nene who gives them a low post presence and balances out the team. They also get rid of Perkins and is 8.7 PER.

Wiz get Harden and extend him to form the core duo with Wall. They put Seraphin in as the starting center with Vessley backing him up. They then draft MKG at #3.
NEW LINEUP:
PG: Wall/Mack
SG: Harden/Crawford
SF: MKG/Singleton
PF: Booker/Vessley
C: Seraphin/Perkins

That's a very interesting trade, mhd.

It might be something that makes sense at the Trade Deadline if OKC comes to the conclusion that they won't be able to keep Harden. It'll also give the Wizards another half-season with Nene for him to help change the culture. We can throw in Crawford to provide them some offense off the bench to replace Harden.

GUYANNAGRIZZLI · Post #1385 » by **GUYANNAGRIZZLI** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 5:49 pm

nate33 wrote:Guyannagrizz, It's very frustrating to have a discussion with you because you get your facts wrong and you don't even understand the CBA.

Dorell Wright is a decent 3-point shooter, not a "machine". He averages .360 from 3-point range which is nice, but nothing to write home about. He ranks 29th in 3P% among the 45 players who averaged 4 or more 3-point attempts per game. His numbers are about the same as Jodie Meeks or Anthony Morrow.

He'd be a nice fit on this team but he's a fairly easy-to-find type of player. I see no reason to sacrifice Booker to get him when we can sign Danny Green or Brandon Rush to do the same thing.

I agree it's not good trade
But what i'm try to do is to have a good Sf starter and to draft Beal

I also think that it's important to be patient with Singleton because he is a young player and hé has shawn good things this end of season

dandrews · Post #1386 » by **dandrews** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:16 pm

From Johnathan Givnoy via Twitter

NBA source tells me Emeka Okafor and Trevor Arizona have been traded to the Washington Wizards for Rashard Lewis and the #46 pick

Severn Hoos · Post #1387 » by **Severn Hoos** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:20 pm

Wait, what?

Nope, just checked my calendar - not April 1.

Does not include the #10 in any form?

Uh oh.

GUYANNAGRIZZLI · Post #1388 » by **GUYANNAGRIZZLI** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:21 pm

dandrews wrote:From Johnathan Givnoy via Twitter

NBA source tells me Emeka Okafor and Trevor Arizona have been traded to the Washington Wizards for Rashard Lewis and the #46 pick

I don't any trevor Arizona ?

gesa2 · Post #1389 » by **gesa2** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:25 pm

Severn Hoos wrote:Wait, what?

Nope, just checked my calendar - not April 1.

Does not include the #10 in any form?

Uh oh.

It HAS to include the #10, or some other asset. 2 negative value contracts?

Post #1390 » by **nate33** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:31 pm

dandrews wrote:From Johnathan Givnoy via Twitter

NBA source tells me Emeka Okafor and Trevor Arizona have been traded to the Washington Wizards for Rashard Lewis and the #46 pick

Why?

Okafor is redundant with Nene and Seraphin. Ariza is a decent wing, but no better than a guy like Danny Green who is obtainable in free agency. Unfortunately, in this scenario, we end up with no cap flexibility next summer. It just doesn't make any sense unless we're getting back a high pick. Instead, we're giving up a 2nd rounder. WTF?

Fire EG!

TheKingOfVa360 · Post #1391 » by **TheKingOfVa360** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:38 pm

nate33 wrote:
dandrews wrote:From Johnathan Givnoy via Twitter

NBA source tells me Emeka Okafor and Trevor Arizona have been traded to the Washington Wizards for Rashard Lewis and the #46 pick

Why?

Okafor is redundant with Nene and Seraphin. Ariza is a decent wing, but no better than a guy like Danny Green who is obtainable in free agency. Unfortunately, in this scenario, we end up with no cap flexibility next summer. It just doesn't make any sense unless we're getting back a high pick. Instead, we're giving up a 2nd rounder. WTF?

Fire EG!

That's such a dumb ass trade, we should at least get their number 10 pick for that. We are giving them cap space and a pick for nothing. Fire EG if we arent getting back the 10th pick

GUYANNAGRIZZLI · Post #1392 » by **GUYANNAGRIZZLI** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 6:45 pm

If Emeka Okafor has some injury problem, it's a bad moove
Ariza is a good Sf player and it's really the position who needs to be improved in the team

If Emeka Okafor is in good shape, the paint Will be strong
a reliable Sf (ariza)
Draft Beal

Hey, if it's true, this team is a playoff contendent

Benjammin · Post #1393 » by **Benjammin** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:26 pm

They really got taken with this deal. Wait, that's what I usually say about most Ernie deals. Of course, it's never Ernie's fault, it's always the dastardly and devious fault of the owner. This means they don't have to worry about free agency for the next two seasons. It also means that Robinson is almost certainly no the pick and makes Beal seem more likely if he's there.

I don't like it, but after thirty years of not liking moves from this franchise, why start now?

nuposse04 · Post #1394 » by **nuposse04** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 7:33 pm

Okafor for B. Gordon
Ariza+filler for M. Williams

Wall/somebody
Beal/Gordon
M. Williams/ C. Singleon
Booker/Vesly
Nene/Seraphin

Post #1395 » by **LyricalRico** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:08 pm

nuposse04 wrote:Okafor for B. Gordon
Ariza+filler for M. Williams

Wall/somebody
Beal/Gordon
M. Williams/ C. Singleon
Booker/Vesly
Nene/Seraphin

Now you're talking! :clap:

nuposse04 · Post #1396 » by **nuposse04** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 8:12 pm

LyricalRico wrote:
nuposse04 wrote:Okafor for B. Gordon
Ariza+filler for M. Williams

Wall/somebody
Beal/Gordon
M. Williams/ C. Singleon
Booker/Vesly
Nene/Seraphin

Now you're talking!

If we're going to trade for ****, at least let it be **** we can actually use. :cry:

mhd · Post #1397 » by **mhd** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:25 pm

With our GLUT of bigs, I think Booker (unfortunetly) is the guy who gets moved. What about:

Booker+#32 for Roddy B+#17?

Booker gives Dallas a MUCH needed youbng cheap big, while Roddy B is a huge upgrade over Mack. Plus, he's french and can bond with Seraphin. Wiz could take best shooter available at #17 while Dallas saves the potential garunteed contract of #17.

Post #1398 » by **penbeast0** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 10:35 pm

mhd, I like Roddy Bobo a lot, I'd do that one pretty quickly.

jivelikenice · Post #1399 » by **jivelikenice** » Wed Jun 20, 2012 11:45 pm

Based on Ted's blog comments, I really don't expect this to be the last move we see here. Aside from Booker, I really think Singleton and Crawford will be shopped leading up to the draft.

I for one like the move. Nene is not going to play 82 games next year and now between him, Seraphin, and Okafor we have a really good deep rotation up front. In addition it helps address rebounding which is an issue.

Ariza is a clear upgrade to Singleton. His shooting was down but I think he was trying to do more than he should have been in NO. As a 3 and D guy shooting corner 3's, he could be very effective. He also runs the floor very well & unlike Singleton, can finish on the break.

Ernie gets criticized for his trades but I can only recall one where he missed (the 5th pick). He did well in the Caron for Kwame deal, the Hinrich & Seraphin deal, the Hinrich for Crawford/Evans/ 1st rd pick deal, and the Nene deal.

hands11 · Post #1400 » by **hands11** » Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:05 am

Benjammin wrote:They really got taken with this deal. Wait, that's what I usually say about most Ernie deals. Of course, it's never Ernie's fault, it's always the dastardly and devious fault of the owner. This means they don't have to worry about free agency for the next two seasons. It also means that Robinson is almost certainly no the pick and makes Beal seem more likely if he's there.

I don't like it, but after thirty years of not liking moves from this franchise, why start now?

Why. Now they have two smaller contracts of players who actually have some value. Not like they can't be moved again.