2012 NBA Draft - Part V

[TheKingOfVa360]

I really cant see the bobcats taking Beal at number 2 pick. I think Beal will still be there at three i expect a shocker from Ernie. With the third pick of the nba draft the Washington wizard selects ..........Harrison Barnes

I would jump off a bridge if that happens. At this point I think Beal has to be the pick. I wouldn't be mad with MKG but we need shooters bad.

[Illuminaire]

I'm happy with either MKG or Beal + Crowder.

If we take Harrison Barnes, I think part of me may die a little inside.

[Severn Hoos]

I still have Beal at the top of my list, barely ahead of MKG. Would be very happy with either one.

Here's where I hope some of Ernie's hamfisted attenpts at misdirection come in. Because everyone knows/expects that it's Beal or Bust for us, the presumption is that Charlotte could just trade back to #4 and still get their man (let's assume it's TRob), knowing we won't take him.

So right on cue, there are "leaks" of trade discussions for the 6th & 11th picks. What does that mean? Well, that if Charlotte trades down to #4 and Beal is gone before we pick, there's no guarantee we stay at #3 anyway - and they could lose out on the one guy they really wanted. Likewise, the earlier "leaks" that MKG is at the top of our draft board seem to be a clumsy attempt to throw other teams off the scent.

In the end, I think the Bobs stay at #2 and take the one guy that they want - and I think it'll be Robinson. Then, the Wiz take Beal, Cavs take Barnes (crazy, I know), and Kings have to make a call on Drummond vs. MKG. And at that point, I'd offer just about anything outside of Wall to try and snag that pick....

[FAH1223]

A draft night of Harrison Barnes and Tony Wroten would be worse nightmare.

A draft night of MKG and Jae Crowder would be my sweetest dream.

A draft night of Beal and some other dope will leave me feeling somewhere in between.

E-Mail Ted.

[rockymac52]

I'm Beal or bust. Or Anthony Davis

But seriously, even though I buy into some of the hype surrounding the likes of MKG and Robinson, they simply DO NOT fit on this team.

Robinson would only make even the slightest bit of sense if we pull off another BIG trade that sends away 2 of our 5 big men (not including Blatche as one of our big men, but that might be hopeful thinking) and acquires some good wings in return. I don't see that happening. Maybe we trade one big for one wing, but we'd still have 4 (plus Blatche) decent big men, and no need to draft a big like TRob.

MKG... I'm really not in love with him in general, but my main concern is simple... HE CANNOT SHOOT. We have enough issues with shooting the ball. It's one thing to hope that our point guard eventually develops an adequate jumper, we can't afford to cross our fingers and hope for the best on a second player. And enough of the whole "he brings leadership" argument. We just added two more veterans. Ariza might not be a real "leader", but I think Okafor is. Nene definitely is. We have our leaders. We don't need to add a rookie who thinks he's a leader but can't even shoot a jump shot.

If we end up with MKG, we're going to be brutal to watch on offense night in and night out. Absolutely brutal. Great on defense though, to be fair. Beal adds a lot to a team like ours. He's the near perfect fit, all things considered.

[Jay81]

here is the actual quote

Trevor Ariza was playing a pickup game with John Wall when he learned about his trade to the Wizards, and he said that Wall's jump shot "is looking really, really, really good, for those who haven’t seen him lately."

[rockymac52]

I'd love to get encouraged by that, but it just honestly doesn't mean anything and it's not credible. I hope it's true. But I won't believe it until I see it. Not necessarily doubting that it's true or that it could be true by the end of the summer, I'm just saying you shouldn't read into that quote too much.

[Knighthonor]

A draft night of Harrison Barnes and Tony Wroten would be worse nightmare.

A draft night of MKG and Jae Crowder would be my sweetest dream.

A draft night of Beal and some other dope will leave me feeling somewhere in between.

I believe you are blindly hyped for MKG. he doesnt add much to the Wizards especially after this trade.

[montestewart]

Dat, I'd be happy with MKG on draft night...tho I prefer Beal. But if it is MKG no way I want Crowder with the second pick. We'd have two more mediocre shooters on a team that desperately needs perimeter scoring. I'd want a Doron Lamb with that second pick if he's available. I'd even take Hollis Thompson before I drafted Crowder.

Crowder is a smart, hard-working defender and a decent long-range shooter. But his overall shooting and offensive game is sorely lacking, imo

I've never seen Crowder play. Maybe there's something you see that needs to be seen to be understood, but looking at his stats (2P%, 3P%, FT%, FG/G, 3FG/G, FT/G) I don't see how he's lumped in with MKG. Crowder's shooting stats look more on par with Beal's shooting stats. I can understand why you wouldn't want Crowder for a SF after picking MKG, because there would be quite a crowd fighting for minutes there (and really everywhere in the frontcourt).

[7-Day Dray]

I still think Drummond is the guy we need to get. He has the most potential to become a superstar in this draft aside from Davis, and our roster lacks so much potential. If he develops, he can single-handedly change the course of this franchise. His physical tools are unreal -- 6'11.75" tall, 7'6.25 wingspan, 280 lbs w/ great lower body strength, had a 10.83 on the lane agility (reminiscent of a guard), and can jump out the gym.

We need to shoot big in this draft. I don't want to get another solid piece that can help us become Milwaukee Bucks 2.0., we need a franchise cornerstone, especially after the recent moves that have hamstrung our flexibility for the next few years. Getting Okafor shouldn't stop us from getting Drummond (if he Ernie's guy). If Drummond stayed in school until his junior year like T-Rob, I'm pretty sure he'd be the consensus #1 pick.

[Terpman]

Drummond shoots free throws like Helen Keller. No freakin thanks.

[FAH1223]

I still think Drummond is the guy we need to get. He has the most potential to become a superstar in this draft aside from Davis, and our roster lacks so much potential. If he develops, he can single-handedly change the course of this franchise. His physical tools are unreal -- 6'11.75" tall, 7'6.25 wingspan, 280 lbs w/ great lower body strength, had a 10.83 on the lane agility (reminiscent of a guard), and can jump out the gym.

We need to shoot big in this draft. I don't want to get another solid piece that can help us become Milwaukee Bucks 2.0., we need a franchise cornerstone, especially after the recent moves that have hamstrung our flexibility for the next few years. Getting Okafor shouldn't stop us from getting Drummond (if he Ernie's guy). If Drummond stayed in school until his junior year like T-Rob, I'm pretty sure he'd be the consensus #1 pick.

too bad Drummond has no post moves to speak up and just plays face up...

[7-Day Dray]

I still think Drummond is the guy we need to get. He has the most potential to become a superstar in this draft aside from Davis, and our roster lacks so much potential. If he develops, he can single-handedly change the course of this franchise. His physical tools are unreal -- 6'11.75" tall, 7'6.25 wingspan, 280 lbs w/ great lower body strength, had a 10.83 on the lane agility (reminiscent of a guard), and can jump out the gym.

We need to shoot big in this draft. I don't want to get another solid piece that can help us become Milwaukee Bucks 2.0., we need a franchise cornerstone, especially after the recent moves that have hamstrung our flexibility for the next few years. Getting Okafor shouldn't stop us from getting Drummond (if he Ernie's guy). If Drummond stayed in school until his junior year like T-Rob, I'm pretty sure he'd be the consensus #1 pick.

too bad Drummond has no post moves to speak up and just plays face up...

I'm not an advocate of using Youtube videos to scout players, but in his HS mixtapes, he looks extremely coordinated w/ the ball for someone his age, showing a lot of finesse. He has the potential to add moves to his arsenal.

[FAH1223]

im not comfortable drafting him unless I had an all-time great ala Kareem or Hakeem or Ewing, etc teaching him a thing or two. The Lakers did it right with Bynum, I doubt we could do that.

[closg00]

im not comfortable drafting him unless I had an all-time great ala Kareem or Hakeem or Ewing, etc teaching him a thing or two. The Lakers did it right with Bynum, I doubt we could do that.

You beat me to-it, that is exactly what I was going to write. Wherever Drummond goes, it will be to an org that will take their time and develop him properly. Drummond probably needs a dedicated coach to work with him full-time.

[truwizfan4evr]

No drummond for us! Rather have MKG,Thomas Robinson Or Brad Beal. I wish there away we can still draft Thomas Robinson and then trade Booker for another first round pick. Then we can draft a shooter with the pick and a shooter or back up point guard with the thirty second pick.

[truwizfan4evr]

Here's a profile video of Brad Beal http://www.nba.com/video/channels/draft ... rofile.nba

[DCZards]

I've never seen Crowder play. Maybe there's something you see that needs to be seen to be understood, but looking at his stats (2P%, 3P%, FT%, FG/G, 3FG/G, FT/G) I don't see how he's lumped in with MKG. Crowder's shooting stats look more on par with Beal's shooting stats. I can understand why you wouldn't want Crowder for a SF after picking MKG, because there would be quite a crowd fighting for minutes there (and really everywhere in the frontcourt).

I saw Crowder play a lot at Marquette. He was essentiallly a PF for them, getting a lot of his shots in close and on offensive rebounds. Thus his good FG%. Crowder is only 6'4 and won't get those easy inside baskets in the NBA. In fact, at that size, he'll probabaly have to learn to play SG at the next level.

Crowder is a good three point shooter but his midrange shot and ability to take people off the dribble is mediocre, imo.

[SUPERBALLMAN]

I'm becoming more intrigued by the trade down of #3 to Portland for the #6 & 11. If that deal is on the table, I think I would do it, especially if it doesn't involve the #32, although even then I would strongly consider it.

Moving to 6 could still very well give us one of our desired players (Beal, Barnes, MKG). If Drummond goes in the top 5, one of those players will be available at 6. My guess is MKG.

Then at 11 we can get Terrance Ross. And maybe still add someone at 32 like Doron Lamb.

[Jay81]

We're inviting mkg and rivers for another workout??