Omer Asik and Rockets agree to deal 3 years 25 million

DerrickRose025 · Post #141 » by **DerrickRose025** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:17 am

Dan Bernstein‏@dan_bernstein

Good luck in Houston, @AsikOmer. It's been real.

Red Larrivee · Post #142 » by **Red Larrivee** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:17 am

AAU Teammate wrote:We're elite defensively. What some here are proposing is weakening the thing that makes us elite, and finding a whole different way to be elite instead. Magically, eliminating Omer will make us elite on offense, according to some. And they pretend the defense will not suffer in doing so.

Why not stay elite at one thing and then work on the other? Try to have a success with either a future MLE or a draft pick?

15 million dollars. The Bulls are punching a ticket to basketball hell if they match this.

imagge · Post #143 » by **imagge** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:17 am

MrFortune3 wrote:
ryannik09 wrote:All the people who are so quick to say Bulls should match this deal will be when the ones crying when we can't find a legit Robin to DRoses's Batman. Let Asik go, he was worth a maximum of $4-5 mil per year an average of $8.33mil a year is downright crazy.

the deal is back loaded in the final year for 15 mil. that's a huge expiring deal to dangle if we need to move him later on.

Expiring deals....What did Kris Kaman's big expiring deal get N.O.? The answer:

NOTHING. and he can actually score. :lol:

Post #144 » by **kingkirk** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:17 am

U boj wrote:
KingCuban wrote:
100% agree.

Morey has geared the contract like this for 2 reason:

1. To have a massive expiring
2. To ensure he makes it as difficlut as possible for us to match.

It would be a silly move and we'd be complaining about matching this deal and having 27 million wrapped up in the centre position.

1.It doesn't go against the salary cap for Houston same as it goes for the Bulls. Rockets wouldn't have to pay him $15M in the last season.

Im not following. Why wouldnt Houston have to pay 15 mil?

Red Larrivee · Post #145 » by **Red Larrivee** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:18 am

imagge wrote:Expiring deals....What did Kris Kaman's big expiring deal get N.O.? The answer:

NOTHING. and he can actually score.

Exactly.

boogydown · Post #146 » by **boogydown** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:19 am

The deal on the third year can only be $14M according to Hollinger.

5/5.25/14 is better than 5/5.25/10/11 that was offered earlier.

Post #147 » by **DuckIII** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:19 am

thedarkstark wrote:
TyrusRose2425 wrote:Match him? Since it's 3 years instead of 4, we could use him as a massive expiring deal in that final year. Just a thought.

This. I say match it.

Completely agree.

ChicagoLegend · Post #148 » by **ChicagoLegend** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:19 am

Who else can the Bulls find at 5 million dollars besides Asik?

They might have to match this offer.

RichardsRival3 · Post #149 » by **RichardsRival3** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:19 am

DuckIII wrote:
thedarkstark wrote:
TyrusRose2425 wrote:Match him? Since it's 3 years instead of 4, we could use him as a massive expiring deal in that final year. Just a thought.

This. I say match it.

Completely agree.

100% agree.

Clint Eastwood · Post #150 » by **Clint Eastwood** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:20 am

By the way, this whole discussion is moot until someone can confirm that restricted free agents can be signed and traded. I think they can, and that the change in the cba was that they don't gain an extra year by doing so.

If I'm right about that, we still need confirmation that the verbal agreement asik and rockets made doesn't prevent a sign and trade with Houston. There wouldnt be benefit to asik, and as stated earlier the benefit to rockets would be the bulls letting the rockets ave asik.

We need answers. Someone besides freidel needs to call Larry coon.

U boj · Post #151 » by **U boj** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:20 am

Red Larrivee wrote:
MrFortune3 wrote:it's 15 mil and some team looking for cap relief with a bad contract for them but a really good player would work just fine for us.
that expiring deal at 15 mil(BYC or not) would be a nice trade chip to add to make a deal work.

What team is going to trade you a really good player for a $15M backup center? And why would the bulls trade for a bad contract?

It's a poisonous salary. The Bulls aren't going to get anything worth a **** back.

Don't agree with you more often than not but every post of yours in this thread should be sticked-

AAU Teammate · Post #152 » by **AAU Teammate** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:21 am

Red Larrivee wrote:
AAU Teammate wrote:We're elite defensively. What some here are proposing is weakening the thing that makes us elite, and finding a whole different way to be elite instead. Magically, eliminating Omer will make us elite on offense, according to some. And they pretend the defense will not suffer in doing so.

Why not stay elite at one thing and then work on the other? Try to have a success with either a future MLE or a draft pick?

15 million dollars. The Bulls are punching a ticket to basketball hell if they match this.

The choice is this: make your defense weaker, or try to replace CJ/Wats/Brew with guys that cost between 2 and 5 million over the next few years.

In year 3 you amnesty Boozer either way. But before then we also have the option of doing a trade to consolidate parts using either Taj or the Charlotte pick as a sweetener.

jStuNNa · Post #153 » by **jStuNNa** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:22 am

Someone correct me if I'm wrong ... But the summer leading into Asik's salary jumping to 15 mil is the SAME summer that next big free agent class hits the market. The one with LeBron, Melo, Chris Bosh, Granger, Rudy Gay, Wade, Dirk, and more.

That same summer Deng expires, along with Rip, and the Bulls can amnesty Boozer ... freeing up some room to be players in free agency. At that time, Rose will be fully recovered and just entering his prime. That would be a great opportunity to add a true second star to the team. But that can't happen if Asik's 15 mil salary is on the books ...

boogydown · Post #154 » by **boogydown** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:22 am

The 2014-2015 Free Agency Class - Lebron, Wade? (They don't want to come here now)
The 2015-2016 Free Agency Class - Love, Gordon?, Lopez? (Love talked about coming here before)

Asik expires before Derrick Rose FA Class can opt out.

DerrickRose025 · Post #155 » by **DerrickRose025** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:22 am

K.C Johnson‏@KCJHoop

If Bulls match on Asik, they have $69.3 million committed to 9 players next season, just $1 million below projected luxury tax line.

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musiqsoulchild · Post #156 » by **musiqsoulchild** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:23 am

Taj.

What does this mean for our ability to keep him?

organix85 · Post #157 » by **organix85** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:23 am

I'm working the math, I think Hollinger is wrong.

AAU Teammate · Post #158 » by **AAU Teammate** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:23 am

jStuNNa wrote:Someone correct me if I'm wrong ... But the summer leading into Asik's salary jumping to 15 mil is the SAME summer that next big free agent class hits the market. The one with LeBron, Melo, Chris Bosh, Granger, Rudy Gay, Wade, Dirk, and more.

That same summer Deng expires, along with Rip, and the Bulls can amnesty Boozer ... freeing up some room to be players in free agency. At that time, Rose will be fully recovered and just entering his prime. That would be a great opportunity to add a true second star to the team. But that can't happen if Asik's 15 mil salary is on the books ...

Free agency missions are tiring me. I want to acquire someone via trade, so I know what I get. This move (matching) continues our piling of trade assets.

Jordan45822 · Post #159 » by **Jordan45822** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:23 am

Larry Coon ‏@LarryCoon
Gilbert Arenas provision: http://bit.ly/M2v9xo RT @mcalogero1: how can HOU offer 15 mil in 3rd year?

TyrusRose2425 · Post #160 » by **TyrusRose2425** » Mon Jul 2, 2012 12:23 am

Boozer+Asik would equate about 32 million in expirings that year