Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXII Off-Season Edition)

[mhi]

Henny can solve that bargaining issue with one sentence. "We're not trading you to the Nets."

That's not how an employer-employee relationship works.

[Bensational]

i would rather keep Dwight, make him play out this season and face a free agency where his best options are a rebuilding Dallas and Atlanta, rather than trade him to the market he and his agents want him to go to. heck, i'd be happy if the Magic made him sit on the bench while we suck our way into a lottery pick, so at least when he goes to sign with another team he's looking back at his former team with a potential superstar - Tmac style. and whilst that might sound like a spiteful move, it's not. i actually just don't want to see the Magic taking back Lopez, or any other piece of garbage from the Nets. i don't even want to do a Bynum deal because i'm fairly confident his knees will give up again soon and we'll be stuck with Grant Hill 2.0.

i think Dwight is well within his rights to demand changes on this team, i think he's well within his rights to advise us that he's unhappy and doesn't plan to re-sign with us once his deal is up, but he's got no rights to dictate where we trade him if we want to trade him. i'm sick of players bullying teams into getting to play where they want.

[ThatFloridaDude]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DE6qy0QvcGM

What do you guys make of Brook's game?

[RookieStar]

Is this about a game of chicken to see who blinks first? I'm so tired of this..

[IGotDaMagicInMe]

OH GOOD GOD DONT GIVE HIM WHAT HE WANT! they cant sign him!

[Skin]

i would rather keep Dwight, make him play out this season and face a free agency where his best options are a rebuilding Dallas and Atlanta, rather than trade him to the market he and his agents want him to go to. heck, i'd be happy if the Magic made him sit on the bench while we suck our way into a lottery pick, so at least when he goes to sign with another team he's looking back at his former team with a potential superstar - Tmac style. and whilst that might sound like a spiteful move, it's not. i actually just don't want to see the Magic taking back Lopez, or any other piece of garbage from the Nets. i don't even want to do a Bynum deal because i'm fairly confident his knees will give up again soon and we'll be stuck with Grant Hill 2.0.

i think Dwight is well within his rights to demand changes on this team, i think he's well within his rights to advise us that he's unhappy and doesn't plan to re-sign with us once his deal is up, but he's got no rights to dictate where we trade him if we want to trade him. i'm sick of players bullying teams into getting to play where they want.

+ infinity forever.

This is exactly how I feel too.

[tiderulz]

If they are the only serious bidder, you wait. No one should negotiate with only one buyer, you're bound to get a crappy deal.

I say we wait until all the dust settles and then some contender will look around and see that they need to make a move and by then you can figure out a better deal than this Nets crapola.

Never make a deal out of desperation

Here's my thing with that plan. What contender can give us assets we want without making them less of a contender?

Well, since Dwight is the 2nd most valuable player in the league? Many of them.

But my first choice is the Clippers once they get a new GM. I think it is very likely we could swing a Dwight/BBD/Duhon for Griffin/Jordan/Bledsoe type deal and the Clippers are more poised to compete due to Dwight's game-changing defense.

Dwight is a great player, but this past year and a half has tarnished him and turned off a lot of GM's. And it was already known that most of the A-level star players dont like Dwight that much and hang with him. Hence his "list" of players all seem to be B and C level players. Jackson, Ellis, Morrow, BBD.

And Griffin/Jordan/Bledsoe? Jordan is a waste, occasional block, horrible defender, cant score in a whore house, being paid over $32mil over the next 3 years. Bledsoe had 2 good games in the playoffs and everyone thinks he is a star now.

[BelgianMagic]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Houston has agreed to terms with Jeremy Lin on an offer sheet, source tells Y!

[Bensational]

i remember reading a tweet saying that once Dwight realised he probably couldn't get to Brooklyn that he was going to look to go to the team that will best help him rebuild his image and give him a chance to win.

where better than OKC? surely, OKC have to be feeling a bit nervous now that LA have retooled? are they confident that if they met the Heat again that they could make the adjustments to keep them out of the paint?

Perkins + Harden for Dwight gives them the perfect final piece to lockdown the paint. gives them a go to scorer in the paint. and gives Dwight the perfect 'team' environment to rebuild his image.

[tiderulz]

i would rather keep Dwight, make him play out this season and face a free agency where his best options are a rebuilding Dallas and Atlanta, rather than trade him to the market he and his agents want him to go to. heck, i'd be happy if the Magic made him sit on the bench while we suck our way into a lottery pick, so at least when he goes to sign with another team he's looking back at his former team with a potential superstar - Tmac style. and whilst that might sound like a spiteful move, it's not. i actually just don't want to see the Magic taking back Lopez, or any other piece of garbage from the Nets. i don't even want to do a Bynum deal because i'm fairly confident his knees will give up again soon and we'll be stuck with Grant Hill 2.0.

i think Dwight is well within his rights to demand changes on this team, i think he's well within his rights to advise us that he's unhappy and doesn't plan to re-sign with us once his deal is up, but he's got no rights to dictate where we trade him if we want to trade him. i'm sick of players bullying teams into getting to play where they want.

its a good thing you dont own a business, you would run it into the ground. you dont let an asset just die, you use it, for the best it can give you.

And a lottery pick doesnt always work out. Kwame Brown? Okafor? Derrick Favors? Wesley Johnson? Thabeet? Tyreke Evans? Beasley? Mayo?

All top-4 picks. Some have turned out to be okay players, some barely hanging on to a roster spot. None of them are a star.

[woosah]

i would rather keep Dwight, make him play out this season and face a free agency where his best options are a rebuilding Dallas and Atlanta, rather than trade him to the market he and his agents want him to go to. heck, i'd be happy if the Magic made him sit on the bench while we suck our way into a lottery pick, so at least when he goes to sign with another team he's looking back at his former team with a potential superstar - Tmac style. and whilst that might sound like a spiteful move, it's not. i actually just don't want to see the Magic taking back Lopez, or any other piece of garbage from the Nets. i don't even want to do a Bynum deal because i'm fairly confident his knees will give up again soon and we'll be stuck with Grant Hill 2.0.

i think Dwight is well within his rights to demand changes on this team, i think he's well within his rights to advise us that he's unhappy and doesn't plan to re-sign with us once his deal is up, but he's got no rights to dictate where we trade him if we want to trade him. i'm sick of players bullying teams into getting to play where they want.

I think many of us feel this way, but the FO has not given any indication they would be willing to wait it out. I agree that spite would not be the motive. The other options just put us in a crappy situation more than keeping him does. I honestly wonder if he would be the douche his people are threatening that he will be to force a trade. He knows his image is taking a hit. The more he does that, it could make him less marketable and cause some sponsors to shy away from him for a bit until he gets a better reputation. He probably has bonuses tied to making all star and if he plays less, it doesn't help him. Not to mention he wants to be loved, and opening night getting booed into oblivion will bother him.

As for Bynum, that deal IMO will be it's best right before the deadline when the lakers see the opportunity to get handed their next franchise player slipping away. I could see them pushing for it earlier than that if the lakers d is sucking majorly. Anyway, by the deadline the Magic will have a better read on whether or not those knees really look solid and then make a better decision.

[dariusl7]

i would rather keep Dwight, make him play out this season and face a free agency where his best options are a rebuilding Dallas and Atlanta, rather than trade him to the market he and his agents want him to go to. heck, i'd be happy if the Magic made him sit on the bench while we suck our way into a lottery pick, so at least when he goes to sign with another team he's looking back at his former team with a potential superstar - Tmac style. and whilst that might sound like a spiteful move, it's not. i actually just don't want to see the Magic taking back Lopez, or any other piece of garbage from the Nets. i don't even want to do a Bynum deal because i'm fairly confident his knees will give up again soon and we'll be stuck with Grant Hill 2.0.

i think Dwight is well within his rights to demand changes on this team, i think he's well within his rights to advise us that he's unhappy and doesn't plan to re-sign with us once his deal is up, but he's got no rights to dictate where we trade him if we want to trade him. i'm sick of players bullying teams into getting to play where they want.

+1 what he said

[woosah]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Houston has agreed to terms with Jeremy Lin on an offer sheet, source tells Y!

LMAO, Houston is like, "YOLO!"

[rcklsscognition]

i would rather keep Dwight, make him play out this season and face a free agency where his best options are a rebuilding Dallas and Atlanta, rather than trade him to the market he and his agents want him to go to. heck, i'd be happy if the Magic made him sit on the bench while we suck our way into a lottery pick, so at least when he goes to sign with another team he's looking back at his former team with a potential superstar - Tmac style. and whilst that might sound like a spiteful move, it's not. i actually just don't want to see the Magic taking back Lopez, or any other piece of garbage from the Nets. i don't even want to do a Bynum deal because i'm fairly confident his knees will give up again soon and we'll be stuck with Grant Hill 2.0.

i think Dwight is well within his rights to demand changes on this team, i think he's well within his rights to advise us that he's unhappy and doesn't plan to re-sign with us once his deal is up, but he's got no rights to dictate where we trade him if we want to trade him. i'm sick of players bullying teams into getting to play where they want.

+1 what he said

Not happening. This idea that the Orlando Magic are going to bench Dwight Howard for a year while tanking to teach him a lesson is quite simply moronic.

[SolidSnake008]

i would rather keep Dwight, make him play out this season and face a free agency where his best options are a rebuilding Dallas and Atlanta, rather than trade him to the market he and his agents want him to go to. heck, i'd be happy if the Magic made him sit on the bench while we suck our way into a lottery pick, so at least when he goes to sign with another team he's looking back at his former team with a potential superstar - Tmac style. and whilst that might sound like a spiteful move, it's not. i actually just don't want to see the Magic taking back Lopez, or any other piece of garbage from the Nets. i don't even want to do a Bynum deal because i'm fairly confident his knees will give up again soon and we'll be stuck with Grant Hill 2.0.

i think Dwight is well within his rights to demand changes on this team, i think he's well within his rights to advise us that he's unhappy and doesn't plan to re-sign with us once his deal is up, but he's got no rights to dictate where we trade him if we want to trade him. i'm sick of players bullying teams into getting to play where they want.

no offense but speak for yourself....Dwight is going to walk anyway.....if i have a shot of getting out of the contract hell Otis put us in then i'm all for the big picture.....Ben you sound like you're letting your feelings talk for you....but it's your opinion so i can respect that....but me personally i would love to keep Howard if he wanted to be here....but he doesn't....so in that case i want to be in the best position i can when 2013 rolls around....

[tiderulz]

i remember reading a tweet saying that once Dwight realised he probably couldn't get to Brooklyn that he was going to look to go to the team that will best help him rebuild his image and give him a chance to win.

where better than OKC? surely, OKC have to be feeling a bit nervous now that LA have retooled? are they confident that if they met the Heat again that they could make the adjustments to keep them out of the paint?

Perkins + Harden for Dwight gives them the perfect final piece to lockdown the paint. gives them a go to scorer in the paint. and gives Dwight the perfect 'team' environment to rebuild his image.

so the team gets the anti-Lopez? 4 ppg, 4 rpg at $25 mil over the next 3 years?

And Harden is a good player to me, but not a star. maybe he becomes one, he seems to lack athleticism.

[rcklsscognition]

Boston preparing to offer Jeff Green close to 4/40? Yuck.

[msmoore66]

i remember reading a tweet saying that once Dwight realised he probably couldn't get to Brooklyn that he was going to look to go to the team that will best help him rebuild his image and give him a chance to win.

where better than OKC? surely, OKC have to be feeling a bit nervous now that LA have retooled? are they confident that if they met the Heat again that they could make the adjustments to keep them out of the paint?

Perkins + Harden for Dwight gives them the perfect final piece to lockdown the paint. gives them a go to scorer in the paint. and gives Dwight the perfect 'team' environment to rebuild his image.

so the team gets the anti-Lopez? 4 ppg, 4 rpg at $25 mil over the next 3 years?

And Harden is a good player to me, but not a star. maybe he becomes one, he seems to lack athleticism.

I think that might just be due to his play style, I always thought he was pretty athletic.

[YosemiteSam]

I'm flabbergasted that anyone on this board thinks Brook Lopez for $10M per year is better than nothing. I wouldn't take Lopez for free....... and he's goofy and ugly too

[Cigamodnalro]

I'm flabbergasted that anyone on this board thinks Brook Lopez for $10M per year is better than nothing. I wouldn't take Lopez for free....... and he's goofy and ugly too

When Brook Lopez's mom sits around the house, she really sits AROUND the house.