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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXVII Off-Season Edition)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXVII Off-Season Editi 

Post#421 » by ThatFloridaDude » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:11 pm

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Arbitrary argument, especially since Kobe thought Dwight would be great in the "Tyson Chandler" role for the team last season.
And this season - he'd be the 4th best offensive player on the team after Kobe, Nash, and Gasol.

As for injuries - only one of the two centers is guaranteed to play the opening game this year. And it ain't Dwight.



Dwight Howard is a better scorer than Nash and Gasol at this point. He would be the best or second best player on LA depending on what your opinion is of Kobe.


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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXVII Off-Season Editi 

Post#422 » by ADRajX » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:12 pm

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Sources say the Timberwolves will go after Courtney Lee since Portland doesnt want to "play ball" in a potential Batum sign-and-trade.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXVII Off-Season Editi 

Post#423 » by J-Mezzy » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:13 pm

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Arbitrary argument, especially since Kobe thought Dwight would be great in the "Tyson Chandler" role for the team last season.
And this season - he'd be the 4th best offensive player on the team after Kobe, Nash, and Gasol.

As for injuries - only one of the two centers is guaranteed to play the opening game this year. And it ain't Dwight.



Dwight Howard is a better scorer than Nash and Gasol at this point. He would be the best or second best player on LA depending on what your opinion is of Kobe.


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Howard is considered by many a top 3 player in the league......No current Laker meets that criteria so that comment is not that far off.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXVII Off-Season Editi 

Post#424 » by ThatFloridaDude » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:16 pm

Howards Defense is better than his offense. That's not the case for Gasol or Nash.
And being a scorer is how you score, not how many. Nash and Gasol and score in an array of ways. Howard, ususally dunks, and rebounds, although he has shown offensive growth. IMO still not a better scorer than Nash or Gasol. Hell Nash makes everybody a better scorer though, so it wouldn't matter really.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXVII Off-Season Editi 

Post#425 » by DiplomaticMagic » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:18 pm

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DiplomaticMagic wrote:The Lakers won't take back, more than 1 bad contract, by a swapping Dwight for Bynum, we'll be the same mediocre team with a less talented star. The only FA that will make us a contender is Cp3, and you'll have to pry him away from LA and sell Bynum on Orlando and that's even if you have cap space. Also there is the scare if Bynum might get injured every game he plays. Plus you get no draft picks, and with Bynum here we're in contention for 8th seed, so our pick will likely be mid 1st round. It really does get us nowhere, and I think/hope Hennigan is smart enough to realize this.


this is all speculation. Bynum is a lot closer to Dwight than people realize. Orlando homerism is clouding a lot of judgments here.
The problem isn't the Center position if you get Bynum - the problem is THE REST OF THE TEAM.
You have to have a superstar to attract superstars.
Period.
Bynum gives you that opportunity.
Otherwise - all that cap space is worthless and you end up overpaying a bunch of second tier players just to appease a fan base to show them you're doing something.
That's garbage.
Orlando is not NY. Players don't dream of playing in Orlando. Sorry, but it's true. so if you have a chance to land a superstar - which Bynum is - you do it and don't look back.

Because, If you land a bunch of draft picks, what's the hope?
That you cross your fingers and get a guy as good as Bynum!!
When there's a GREAT chance you end up with a bunch of Odens and Beasleys and Darkos with those picks.

And then what?


First of all Bynum is not a superstar, we will be overpaying a second tier player like you said. And even if he was as good as Dwight, we're in the same position as now, same middle of the pack team trying to appease our star center, as he can bolt in the next summer. Say what you want about Orlando being a FA destination, but fact is whenever we had cap space, we attracted top FA's, doesn't look like NY is gonna have cap space soon. Yes drafts are always a always a gamble, but you do your research and hope for the best. It really gives me confidence that the two teams Hennigan came from, are teams that were built from the draft.

And what if Bynum bolts? What if Bynum gets injured? (Grant Hill), will we have cap space? how many FA's out there will get us over the hump?

I like Rockets deal better because they can give us promising youth, picks, and cap space. Bynum just gets us in same position we are in now. Yeah it'll suck to be a losing team, but being in the middle is far worse. Plus if we'll really clear cap space, in the trade, we can potentially be a suitor for Bynum in the summer, though the thought of him on a multi-year contract scares me.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXVII Off-Season Editi 

Post#426 » by TNMagicFan » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:18 pm

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Yannis Koutroupis ‏@YannisHW

Sources say the Timberwolves will go after Courtney Lee since Portland doesnt want to "play ball" in a potential Batum sign-and-trade.


We should send them J-rich for a pick
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXVII Off-Season Editi 

Post#427 » by Def Swami » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:19 pm

ThatFloridaDude wrote:Hey quick question. For you people that want the Houston Deal? Could their draft picks they got this year work well with oQuiin and Drew?

Lamb works well since he's a perimeter player.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXVII Off-Season Editi 

Post#428 » by Nyce_1 » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:23 pm

DJ Augustin is now an UFA.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXVII Off-Season Editi 

Post#429 » by cvMagic » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:24 pm

Blue_and_Whte wrote:I want the Houston deal. I think the game is perimeter oriented I like the idea of developing Lamb and/or Jones get a center that can rebound and play defense. I loath the idea of dumping the ball into the post as everyone stands around and watches.


I think these things are cyclical.
When Jordan and the Bulls were winning it was all about their perimeter game a la the Heat.
But then came the reign of the Spurs and Lakers and 9 championships in a little over a decade mainly due to big advantages inside.

I don't think it's an either or.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXVII Off-Season Editi 

Post#430 » by DiplomaticMagic » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:26 pm

Nyce_1 wrote:DJ Augustin is now an UFA.


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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXVII Off-Season Editi 

Post#431 » by BelgianMagic » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:27 pm

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Bobcats just announced that they've withdrawn their qualifying offer to DJ Augustin, immediately making Augustin unrestricted free agent
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXVII Off-Season Editi 

Post#432 » by tiderulz » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:27 pm

ThatFloridaDude wrote:Hey quick question. For you people that want the Houston Deal? Could their draft picks they got this year work well with oQuiin and Drew?


Lamb is a SG, White is rumored to be a heavy SF. supposedly Terence Jones can play SF along with PF.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXVII Off-Season Editi 

Post#433 » by The Real Dalic » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:29 pm

BelgianMagic wrote:
Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine
Bobcats just announced that they've withdrawn their qualifying offer to DJ Augustin, immediately making Augustin unrestricted free agent

Backup PG anybody?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXVII Off-Season Editi 

Post#434 » by TDJacksonville » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:30 pm

tiderulz wrote:
ThatFloridaDude wrote:Hey quick question. For you people that want the Houston Deal? Could their draft picks they got this year work well with oQuiin and Drew?


Lamb is a SG, White is rumored to be a heavy SF. supposedly Terence Jones can play SF along with PF.


donatas is a Ryan Anderson like but might be able to work at SF(gotta see him play and speed and crap)
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXVII Off-Season Editi 

Post#435 » by rcklsscognition » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:31 pm

The Real Dalic wrote:
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Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine
Bobcats just announced that they've withdrawn their qualifying offer to DJ Augustin, immediately making Augustin unrestricted free agent

Backup PG anybody?


It's like 99% sure he's going to Indy.
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Post#436 » by TDJacksonville » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:32 pm

The Real Dalic wrote:
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Marc Stein ‏@ESPNSteinLine
Bobcats just announced that they've withdrawn their qualifying offer to DJ Augustin, immediately making Augustin unrestricted free agent

Backup PG anybody?


depends on how much and how long of a deal he wants. id rather wayns and westbrook
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXVII Off-Season Editi 

Post#437 » by Official » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:33 pm

Ideally we get a top 3 pick due to our record, the toronto pick from Houston top 10?, one or two solid rookies from Houston, a ton of cap space, and Howard leaves Houston and returns to Orlando in the offseason haha.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXVII Off-Season Editi 

Post#438 » by The Real Dalic » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:34 pm

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It's like 99% sure he's going to Indy.

So? We should try to get him anyway.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXVII Off-Season Editi 

Post#439 » by rcklsscognition » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:35 pm

TDJacksonville wrote:
tiderulz wrote:
ThatFloridaDude wrote:Hey quick question. For you people that want the Houston Deal? Could their draft picks they got this year work well with oQuiin and Drew?


Lamb is a SG, White is rumored to be a heavy SF. supposedly Terence Jones can play SF along with PF.


donatas is a Ryan Anderson like but might be able to work at SF(gotta see him play and speed and crap)


Donatas would kill Ryan in a 1-on-1 game.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XXXVII Off-Season Editi 

Post#440 » by rcklsscognition » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:36 pm

The Real Dalic wrote:
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It's like 99% sure he's going to Indy.

So? We should try to get him anyway.


Too late. He signed with Indiana 5 minutes after becoming an UFA. Fire henny!

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