Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2)

[adjacent2bench]

This has the potential of really blowing up in our faces big-time. If Lin puts up numbers in Houston and Felton isn't the floor leader that guides us on a title run, we will never hear the end of this. Nobody is going to give a sh*t about LeBron and the Heat after this.

And at the other end, if we match Lin, he sucks, and we have to pay him $15 million that last year...then what?

Then nothing... we wouldn't be under the cap any way.

They'd have to pay about 2.5X that salary out of pocket...that's what happens.

[Lightning25]

lol at Melo calling out Lin's contract, if Lin's contract is so ridiculous, what is his own contract?

That idiot shouldn't even be getting the max, he is just some chucking loser.

[kron]

Well.. on the bright side, if Felton works out and Lin does not develop and suck badly in houston, this will look like a smart deal... :p

[K_ick_God]

Dolan is flying close the sun right now

The fan base is already starting to burn

I think he'd turn MSG into a morgue. Knicks would be a depressing and unholy team.

That said, it does sound like Lin acted a weasel. But you put that aside and do the right thing for the team.

I sympathize a little with Dolan. But not enough to excuse this. Completely unacceptable decision here.

[3StarburyAriza21]

[quote="adjacent2bench"][quote="AmazingJason"]This has the potential of really blowing up in our faces big-time. If Lin puts up numbers in Houston and Felton isn't the floor leader that guides us on a title run, we will never hear the end of this. Nobody is going to give a sh*t about LeBron and the Heat after this.[/quote]


And at the other end, if we match Lin, he sucks, and we have to pay him $15 million that last year...then what?[/quote]

Then you do. He's an expiring contract. We paid Eddy Curry nearly that much for multiple years.

[Red Vines]

Isola: Lin needs Knicks more than Knicks need Lin regarding making $$$.

[NOOB77]

What does Melo's comment have to do with Lin's contract or the Knick's matching it.

The contract is ridiculous. For a player that hasn't proved anything in the league. Stated he was 85% in the playoffs but didn't play (yes that should a lot of heart right KnicksGod). Melo's comments have nothing to do with the Rockets offer, Lin's play or our front office matching but you guys just look for someone to hate so Melo it is.

Let me ask you this do you think paying Lin 15 dollars a year for his on the court basketball play is a smart basketball decision?? I am not talking about off the court stuff I am talking on the court only?

Nothing.. but he needs to STFU next time he's asked a question about another players money.

Is paying Melo, Chandler and Stat something like 55million per year to go 8-17 ON THE COURT a smart basketball decision? Lord knows what record we would have ended up with had Lin not come in and grabbed his balls and saved the team and their reputations.

Who was responsible for getting the coach to actually play Lin?

[21shumpst]

This has the potential of really blowing up in our faces big-time. If Lin puts up numbers in Houston and Felton isn't the floor leader that guides us on a title run, we will never hear the end of this. Nobody is going to give a sh*t about LeBron and the Heat after this.

And at the other end, if we match Lin, he sucks, and we have to pay him $15 million that last year...then what?

Then we let it expire along with Sta's, Melo's and Tc's contracts and start all over. No negatives to matching him unless you don't wanna pay the lux tax... and if we look at precedence JD should have no problem with doing that.

[Knicker23]

I love it. Melo will be blamed for Lin going to Houston more than Lin will be

When it came down to Melo's own money during the Melodrama he had no comment.. but when it comes to another player getting paid after he's already been paid he opens his mouth in any sort of way other than to say it's not his business is just flat out ignorant.

Exactly. Not that it matters, because I won't follow the team, but I become pretty anti-Melo after Lin leaves. Even if Dolan changes his mind, Melo is a stupid guy and he has an apology to issue.

haha this is such bs. You're looking for reasons to complain and blame and Melo will fit the bill..

His comment was a knock against Houston offering a poison pill and putting the knicks in a bad spot. Did he say "Lin is not worth that money man, that's too much" -- it's not the same.. Him giving high praise to Lin, with Dolan already having chosen not to match, would not only be worthless it would come across poor to fans......

Lin took NY for granted from a financial standpoint and it seems it has backfired.

[god shammgod]

athletes are dumb. they say dumb things. expecting them to know what to say is even dumber though.

how about unwaveringly defending the dumb things said? pretty dumb too, no?

it was bad form, but the decision has probably been made already by the Knicks.

if i'm saying it's dumb i'm obviously not defending it.

[ballzofsteel]

Maybe Lin's injury is serious or he re-injured himself and was the reason he withdrew from the select team?

[Anotha Knicks fan]

God, this is like a horrible accident.... I mean like semi vs a family on a scooter, with explosions, blood, guts, tires, engine parts, innocent bystanders.... you name it. I want so badly to go on with my life, but I can't help looking at the disaster.

I hate the multitude of posts on these threads, and hate having to sift through all the swill and garbage to get real updates. I'm considering ignoring the majority. Paging Kane! Come on in and ban these fools.

[bklynstoops]

Crazzy stuff. Already 172 pages in the first thread and 52 here ? LOL

Marc Berman
One of things you learn in covering #Knicks is you don't cross owner James Dolan. He is a very loyal guy but when disloyalty is shown, you are done with him. That may very well be case here with Jeremy Lin. It wasn't just the money, which was obscene in third year. As we have reported last couple of days, the renegotiation of an offer sheet that was agreed upon and leaked to press - after Woodson publicly said they'd match and he'd be starter - was a kick in gut to organization.

The renegotiation of the offer sheet was a kick in gut to organization ? Gimme a break !
I guess not offering a contract in the first place and going after Nash was showing respect to Lin ? Loyalty is overrated. It's a business for both sides. If the Clippers offered Chris Paul for Lin then Grunwald and Dolan wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger, even if Lin said he doesn't want to be traded to LA.

If somehow Morey changed his mind and decided to withdraw the offer sheet (instead of increasing the salary in the third season), I doubt Dolan and Grunwald would have offered Lin a max four-year deal with Early Bird rights. If no other team showed interest, they would have lowballed Lin. That's why they didn't offered him a max Early Bird deal in the first place. They were looking for a bargain. They hoped no team would bid considering Knicks said they would match any offer. Their strategy backfired, instead of being intimidated, Morey offered a three year max contract and dared the Knicks to match. Dolan/Grunwald gambled and they lost. Be a man, get over it and match !

+1. but I suspect it's over.

[XcalibuR]

They'd have to pay about 2.5X that salary out of pocket...that's what happens.

Unless the Knicks want to go with all scrubs after Melo/Chandler/Amare, they will have to pay that 2.5x.

[Jay10]

Maybe Lin's injury is serious or he re-injured himself and was the reason he withdrew from the select team?

he didn't want to get injured before signing a contract.

[adjacent2bench]

lol at Melo calling out Lin's contract, if Lin's contract is so ridiculous, what is his own contract?

That idiot shouldn't even be getting the max, he is just some chucking loser.

I do agree though, that if Melo really wanted to win in NY, he should have taken less than the max. But he earned his money so, I aint mad.

[EchelonNYK]

This whole situation is giving Lin haters ammunition and his fans high blood pressure. Way to go Knicks

[CU_NY09]

Dolan is flying close the sun right now

The fan base is already starting to burn

I think he'd turn MSG into a morgue. Knicks would be a depressing and unholy team.

That said, it does sound like Lin acted a weasel. But you put that aside and do the right thing for the team.

I sympathize a little with Dolan. But not enough to excuse this. Completely unacceptable decision here.

How did Lin act like a weasel? What did you expect him to do, not sign the only offer sheet one team offered him?

[Never Wrong]

Who was responsible for getting the coach to actually play Lin?

To be fair that's only ever been uttered by Melo and repeated by Stephen A. Smith. When Lin was asked, he said he didn't know about it but appreciated it (assuming it's true). Both D'Antoni and Grunwald denied it.

[bklynstoops]

athletes are dumb. they say dumb things. expecting them to know what to say is even dumber though.

how about unwaveringly defending the dumb things said? pretty dumb too, no?

it was bad form, but the decision has probably been made already by the Knicks.

if i'm saying it's dumb i'm obviously not defending it.

I didn't mean you. I think you're pretty level headed in general.