Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2)

[howe070523]

Also this thing about it only being 8mil/yr is false. From what I understand if we match it will look like 5/5/15mil/yr for us. Lin is not worth 15 mil in that last year. Period!

Like you would know what kind of player he is 2 years from now?!

[Fat Kat]

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[BrOnXKing1]

I dont just get this whole thing with is Lin worth 14.8 his third year or potentially 30 million that final year with luxury tax. The reason why is it is for one year, his 5 million the first two years is reasonable.

A little different, but the Yankee's dreaded giving Jeter 180 million, they knew he wasnt worth that for his production, but had to give it to him for his intangibles. Is Arod worth 30 million a year?

THIS IS NEW YORK, money should not be a factor, especially for one year.

[waya]

People are saying he only played 25 games but his 25 games were overall exceptional. Knicks fans realize that. That's why the message board is blowing up here and houston fans are somewhat lukewarm about him coming. We know what kind of player he is and they will find out.

Really, is this really about money or did Lin's camp do something to Dolan to piss him off. I am hoping that Dolan will come to his senses by Tuesday.

Yes they were great, but everyone accusing Felton's good play here as a byproduct of Dantoni ball should be doing the same thing for Linsanity.

Dantoni is gone. The ball won't be run through Jeremy literally every play.

[CU_NY09]

Hahn doing a 180 on Lin now. Looks like the word from the top has already come down. The end game has begun.

Wasn't he the one that said Lin should be traded because he was young and had tremendous upside?

[BayareaKnicks]

and watch Houston hire D'antoni if McHale ends up sucking...

[SelbyCobra]

the total money shelled out will even out to be 8/mil a year on average, though, which is the point. he could very well be worth that; a borderline all-star pg certainly would, and i'd say there's at least a 30-40% chance of that kind of upside.

If you're going to talk "total money shelled out" then the actual number for the contract could be as high as 3 years, $40+ million with the luxury tax, which is the point.

On average that's $13+ million per year.

[blackstar]

I bet if Knicks let Lin go, Lin will be even more driven to prove the Knicks wrong. This is a kid who has been under appreciated all of his life and now it's happening again. Those 25 games were a fluke...you still haven't proven yourself... no way you are worth that money... we are not taking that risk with you...

He is being disrespected again. Bet you he will prove the naysayers wrong. Just watch.

Freaking houston

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[EchelonNYK]

If Lin turns into a all -star (which he almost did last season) i'm going to think long and hard about if i want to continue watching the NBA..not just the Knicks, but the entire league.

[Knicks80_20]

Hahn doing a 180 on Lin now. Looks like the word from the top has already come down. The end game has begun.

Wasn't he the one that said Lin should be traded because he was young and had tremendous upside?

Maybe, don't know, don't care. But the character of his tweets and his on-air comments regarding Lin have changed dramatically in the last 24 hours. He must've received word.

[Falstaffxx]

I'm still holding out hope that we are matching, but let me describe how I feel, for argument's sake, under the assumption that we're not bringing Lin back:

It's a damn shame. It's a terrible decision from a basketball standpoint. Lin is an excellent player. As a starter, he played like an all-star, period. Don't give nonsense about small sample size. It was a big enough sample size to see he's an excellent player, unless you're blind.

Second, Lin and Shumpert are our ONLY talented young guys. This talk about how it's "win now" so you unload your young up-and-coming players is short-sighted and misguided. You don't throw away your young talent unless you are bringing in an impact player in return. Not Raymund Felton. And furthermore, am I really seeing people claim that exchanging Lin for Felton is a "win-now" move? What a joke. Lin played like a an all-star last year. Felton was mediocre. Yet I'm supposed to believe bringing in Felton will initiate some kind of march of the finals?

This notion that once you bring in star veterans you have to dump everyone else for more veterans is sad. And it's stupid. It's doesn't make sense from an immediate basketball standpoint, and it doesn't make sense the a standpoint of the future. What do you think would have happened to the Celtics if they had unloaded Rondo when he was just getting started and brought in some mediocre veteran point guard.

I'm angry at various people for various reasons. I'm angry at the Knicks for contemplating this move. I'm angry at them for not offering 4 years, $24 million right away. I'm angry at Lin for signing an offer sheet that is intentionallly designed to make it hard for us to match, instead of the original one, which was a no-brainer. I'm angry at Carmelo and Amare for being overpayed losers last year - Amar'e, the guy who who made $20 million and played like crap all year, and Carmelo who made $20 million and underperformed for the most of the year before exiting in the first round, and then had the audacity to call his teammate's contract "ridiculous." I'm pissed at those Knicks fans who are dismissing this, and acting as if it's no big deal.

So we might go into the season with our point guards being a 39-year-old who just drove so wasted that he couldn't keep his car in the road, an overweight guy who was mediocre last year, and a 35-year-old rookie, instead of the 23-year-old guy who played like an all-star, next year. If this happens, will I stop following the Knicks? No, not completely - it's too big a part of my life. But my level of interest will plummet unless the team really surprises me.

[JBreezeNY]

Yes I'm convinced on Lin. Guy is a stud.

Not the most gifted player ever but neither was Nash.

Shumpert is NOT our best young player and I love Shumpert. Lin is. Clearly.

I think you are wrong there...shumpert has all defensive team potential. I have more faith that shumpert will be a really good player, the journey is still out on Lin

Lin has the potential to get even more better as a scorer & improve his ballhandling. I don't think his passing will get that much better nor do I believe his defense which has been a question mark since College going to improve that much.

Shump is already a great defender that can become elite, his shooting I think will improve as well as his ballhandling skills. I don't think his passing will be that much better though.

Honestly it's a tossup but saying Lin clearly is our best young player is nonsense.

[NOOB77]

and watch Houston hire D'antoni if McHale ends up sucking...

Yes I am sure Lin would love that. Lets get that coach that wanted to send him to the D-League and not give him a chance in the league....

[Greenie]

Also this thing about it only being 8mil/yr is false. From what I understand if we match it will look like 5/5/15mil/yr for us. Lin is not worth 15 mil in that last year. Period!

Like you would know what kind of player he is 2 years from now?!

Like you know what kind of player he will be after 25 games.....

[howe070523]

and watch Houston hire D'antoni if McHale ends up sucking...

Mchale is running essentially the same pg centric system just slightly slower pace.

Lin's set

[Knicker23]

Yes I'm convinced on Lin. Guy is a stud.

Not the most gifted player ever but neither was Nash.

Shumpert is NOT our best young player and I love Shumpert. Lin is. Clearly.

I think you are wrong there...shumpert has all defensive team potential. I have more faith that shumpert will be a really good player, the journey is still out on Lin

Since when is one of the greatest PGs ever, Nash, not gifted? Comparing the two right now is giant leap. There's some mystery in his future potential which can allow for speculation.. But lets not go overboard here...

[Jstarks3]

Yes I'm convinced on Lin. Guy is a stud.

Not the most gifted player ever but neither was Nash.

Shumpert is NOT our best young player and I love Shumpert. Lin is. Clearly.

I think you are wrong there...shumpert has all defensive team potential. I have more faith that shumpert will be a really good player, the journey is still out on Lin

LOL **** said "the journey is still out". sorry, but thats hilarious.

[Besart19]

If Lin turns into a all -star (which he almost did last season) i'm going to think long and hard about if want to continue watching the NBA..not just the Knicks, but the entire league.

Just stop!! Lin screwed the things up with that re-negotiating...

[Brit Knick]

I'd be happy if Lin returns, but if he doesn't he's the enemy.

[Fury]

lol what more did Lin have to do to prove he's the best young player on the team? He's at worst the fourth best player in this team.