Felton traded to Knicks; Not matching Lin? (part 2)

[ChartFiction]

Yes that's hilarious, but bringing in Kidd/Felton/Camby are game changers.

[HEZI]

The Knicks are just cursed. Never ending negative drama.

Why cant we ever be just about winning? Fork up the money, pay the kid and lets go get a title.

If we dont match, the Jeremy Lin cloud will hover over our heads ALL YEAR! How are our players supposed to just concentrate on playing ball when they will be asked a million questions about Lin every single night?

Also are the Knicks decision makers aware of the backlash that will hit them after next year if the Knicks fail to reach the Conference Finals?

I mean, there is no avoiding the jeremy Lin cloud. If we dont bring him back, we are in for a LOOOOONG season.

[Greenie]

So what really have the Knicks done this offseason? They're bringing back the same team that got destroyed by the Heat, that was 7 games under .500 before Lin took over. Like Kidd, Camby, and Felton added to that roster is going to be good enough to make it a championship contender, especially with Shump out for months? Lin was their only chance and they're giving it away. They're giving it away.

WOW

Isn't that what what some of us said in the Kidd thread (minus that Lin nonsense).

Bringing Kidd to back up Lin has a whole different flavor than bringing him in to backup Felton.

Lin does not make or break this team. STAT and Melo does.

[Falstaffxx]

So what really have the Knicks done this offseason? They're bringing back the same team that got destroyed by the Heat, that was 7 games under .500 before Lin took over. Like Kidd, Camby, and Felton added to that roster is going to be good enough to make it a championship contender, especially with Shump out for months? Lin was their only chance and they're giving it away. They're giving it away.

The Heat have added assets, the Nets have added assets, and the Lakers now have a top 5 PG, a top 2 SG, and either the best or second best center in the league depending on how the Howard trade talks go.

Meanwhile, we've acquired a 40 year point guard, a near 40 year old backup center, and literally the fattest guard in the league who's been absolute s*** the past two season.

All you Lin bashers are smug now, but if you're really celebrating this move, you really have question whether you have animosities against Lin that run deeper than what you're letting on.

The heat added an ancient sg and a 32 year old who plays like a 60 year old. Lewis has nothing left in the tank. THe nets added 3 of the worst contracts in the league (johnson wallace blowpez) I would hardly consider those assets.

The Heat didn't LOSE several contributors to off-set what they added. We are losing Lin, Fields, Jeffries, Harrellson, and four second-round picks. And if second-round picks are utterly valueless why do we keep having to include them to get trades done?

[frothbrain]

can someone explain why it's too risky to match lin's offer sheet and then trade him at the deadline for a pick or some small asset, instead of losing him for nothing?

[CoolKids]

Yes that's hilarious, but bringing in Kidd/Felton/Camby are game changers.

considering they are all huge upgrades over the players you named yea.

[nyc1695]

And the second part is a very big difference. Jeffires was not a good on ball defender versus big men, he couldn't protect the rim, nor was he a good rebounder. Camby is better all around.

But that's apples and oranges. Camby is a 5, Jeffries is a 4. They were not traded for each other, it wasn't one or the other. Also you gotta consider all the charges JJ took for us, he's a very heads-up player (on the defensive end), who had value on this team.

[Falstaffxx]

Bringing Kidd to back up Lin has a whole different flavor than bringing him in to backup Felton.

Lin does not make or break this team. STAT and Melo does.

Lin was a hell of a lot better than Amar'e last year.

[Falstaffxx]

Yes that's hilarious, but bringing in Kidd/Felton/Camby are game changers.

considering they are all huge upgrades over the players you named yea.

Lin and Fields >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kidd/Felton. Jeffries>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Kurt Thomas. Camby was a nice addition.

[CU_NY09]

The Knicks are just cursed. Never ending negative drama.

Why cant we ever be just about winning? Fork up the money, pay the kid and lets go get a title.

If we dont match, the Jeremy Lin cloud will hover over our heads ALL YEAR! How are our players supposed to just concentrate on playing ball when they will be asked a million questions about Lin every single night?

Also are the Knicks decision makers aware of the backlash that will hit them after next year if the Knicks fail to reach the Conference Finals?

I mean, there is no avoiding the jeremy Lin cloud. If we dont bring him back, we are in for a LOOOOONG season.

They do it to themselves. They're probably the ones leaking the information to the media.

[frothbrain]

The Heat didn't LOSE several contributors to off-set what they added. We are losing Lin, Fields, Jeffries, Harrellson, and four second-round picks. And if second-round picks are utterly valueless why do we keep having to include them to get trades done?

LOL this post made me laugh.
All those players were heavily flawed and easily replaceable. We upgraded all those spots already.
Go cry about not being able to find the next landry fields 4 years from now.

[Greenie]

Yes. The Knicks brought in some decent backups. That's all they've done. And they've lost Lin, Fields, Jeffries, and Harrelson. We haven't gotten better. And with Shumpert out for over half the year...yeah, this isn't looking good at all.

These are the same people that were all for it before.......WOW

[Falstaffxx]

I think some people don't seem to realize that Kidd at this stage of his career is a mediocre player.

[malik959]

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[knicks82023]

If Lin turns into a all -star (which he almost did last season) i'm going to think long and hard about if want to continue watching the NBA..not just the Knicks, but the entire league.

Just stop!! Lin screwed the things up with that re-negotiating...

Knicks lowballed Lin, claimed they will match up to a billion. They were asking for poison pill and they got it.

How did the knicks lowball lin? They are only allowed to offer a certain amount due to his early bird rights.

[ibraheim718]

Lin does not make or break this team. STAT and Melo does.

The two guys that had us 7 games under .500 and cruising for a lottery pick? If that's the case we're going to be broken for a few years.

[j4remi]

Yes that's hilarious, but bringing in Kidd/Felton/Camby are game changers.

Not game changers but CLEAR upgrades...that was the point.

[Never Wrong]

The Knicks are just cursed. Never ending negative drama.

Why cant we ever be just about winning? Fork up the money, pay the kid and lets go get a title.

If we dont match, the Jeremy Lin cloud will hover over our heads ALL YEAR! How are our players supposed to just concentrate on playing ball when they will be asked a million questions about Lin every single night?

Also are the Knicks decision makers aware of the backlash that will hit them after next year if the Knicks fail to reach the Conference Finals?

I mean, there is no avoiding the jeremy Lin cloud. If we dont bring him back, we are in for a LOOOOONG season.

They do it to themselves. They're probably the ones leaking the information to the media.

Not just leaking information. They're likely paying off members of the media to publish fabrications.

[Falstaffxx]

These are the same people that were all for it before.......WOW

Huuuh? People were all for bringing Kidd as a backup to a 23-year old point guard who played like an all-star. NOT Raymund Felton.

[boomann21]

So let me get this straight, we're going to depend on a player who is always out of shape and a 40 year old guy? Oh man.

We're matching.

We're not matching....Every insider is saying its over, Knicks are not matching!

Every insider had Dwight Howard traded two weeks ago.