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Never Wrong wrote:Grinditout wrote:Wilson VS Gallo
Gallo VS Melo
Pringles VS Melo
Melo VS Lin
Wonder what's next?
Don't forget Melo vs. STAT post-trade last season. This season it's gonna be Melo vs. Tyson. Book it.
21shumpst wrote:Jordan Schultz @206Child
A fourth source jumps in telling me both Lin and Knicks haven't spoken in a while and both appalled by one another; #Knicks not matching.
Smoke24 wrote:towelie wrote:What is with Knicks fans and hating on players who try and get the most money they possibly can? Why do you have this mentality that, "if they don't take a paycut, then they truly don't care about the Knicks at all"?
Melo didn't take a paycut. Amar'e didn't take a paycut. Tyson didn't take less to play for the Knicks, and both Kidd and Camby, two players who'll be over 40 by year 3 (and because of luxury tax, will cost Dolan $24M combined), would not have come here if all we offered was the vet min. We had to use up exceptions/give up assets to get them here. In fact, Stoudemire and Melo's contracts actually limited our cap room last year, whereas if they had taken a few million less like LeBron, Wade, and Bosh had, we would've had room for another max last summer.
On the other hand, Lin's contract has ZERO impact on our future maneuverability. It's just luxury tax money out of Dolan's pockets. Which is why I don't get why screaming Stephen A. Smith and his legions of lemming followers even give a sh*t. Dolan paid upwards of $120-130M on lottery teams, and yet he doesn't want to match Jeremy Lin? Lin will generate enough revenue to offset the tax hit on his own. Getting fatass Felton is a downgrade, no matter how you try to sugar up his short stint as a Knick.
Guano wrote:Fourni3r forgetting he has Bob cousy handles
Woodsanity wrote:Imagine trusting a team with World B Flat on it without Lebron keeping him in check.
Paco wrote:Grinditout wrote:Wilson VS Gallo
Gallo VS Melo
Pringles VS Melo
Melo VS Lin
Wonder what's next?
Poster battles? Mod battles?
malik959 wrote:I love when people bring up Lin's 7 game win streak playing against teams like the Nets, Wizards, Jazz, Minn, Kings, Raps and oh one good team LAL. Sense Lin started playing heavy minutes we only won 6 meaningful games vs teams over 500: LAL, Phi, IND (2), Atl, and Dal, but on that same note we lost 7 games vs teams above 500: Dal, Chi, Mia, SAS, Mil, Phi, and Bos in-which teams like MIa exposed his inability to go left.
Now dont get me wrong I like Lin and I would like him back, but not at that price. He avg. 14.6 ppg, 6.2 apg, 3.2 TO, and 1.6 St. Raymond Felton avgs: 13.4 ppg, 6.7 Apg, 2.6 TO, and 1.4 St. I'll Take Felton any day at the price we're getting him and I;m sorry niether of these are Allstar numbers! Felton found ways to make Stat play to the best of his ability and made both Galo and W. Chandler look good. Lin only made Chandler and Novac look good.
Smoke24 wrote:towelie wrote:What is with Knicks fans and hating on players who try and get the most money they possibly can? Why do you have this mentality that, "if they don't take a paycut, then they truly don't care about the Knicks at all"?
Melo didn't take a paycut. Amar'e didn't take a paycut. Tyson didn't take less to play for the Knicks, and both Kidd and Camby, two players who'll be over 40 by year 3 (and because of luxury tax, will cost Dolan $24M combined), would not have come here if all we offered was the vet min. We had to use up exceptions/give up assets to get them here. In fact, Stoudemire and Melo's contracts actually limited our cap room last year, whereas if they had taken a few million less like LeBron, Wade, and Bosh had, we would've had room for another max last summer.
On the other hand, Lin's contract has ZERO impact on our future maneuverability. It's just luxury tax money out of Dolan's pockets. Which is why I don't get why screaming Stephen A. Smith and his legions of lemming followers even give a sh*t. Dolan paid upwards of $120-130M on lottery teams, and yet he doesn't want to match Jeremy Lin? Lin will generate enough revenue to offset the tax hit on his own. Getting fatass Felton is a downgrade, no matter how you try to sugar up his short stint as a Knick.
Paco wrote:Grinditout wrote:Wilson VS Gallo
Gallo VS Melo
Pringles VS Melo
Melo VS Lin
Wonder what's next?
Poster battles? Mod battles?
sinjz wrote:
Actually I don't think Lin ever confirmed it. I think he reaction was 'Wow, really, I didn't know that.' D'antoni outright denied it.
Appearing with Boomer Esiason and Craig Carton Thursday morning on WFAN, Lin said he has a good relationship with Anthony and can’t understand the concern about the two of them playing together in the Knick lineup.
“I am confused by that, because the guy vouched for me in the first place,” said Lin, who went on to confirm reports that he got his shot in the Knicks lineup because Anthony, apparently frustrated with having to run the offense, asked Knicks coach Mike D’Antoni to give Lin a chance.
Besart19 wrote:JR took less money in order to stay and be payed next year; Why? Because he wanted to play here more than anywhere else... Lin looks just the opposite recently!!
god shammgod wrote:
true but honestly everybody was calling it that way. the felton trade threw everybody for a loop.
Smoke24 wrote:towelie wrote:What is with Knicks fans and hating on players who try and get the most money they possibly can? Why do you have this mentality that, "if they don't take a paycut, then they truly don't care about the Knicks at all"?
Melo didn't take a paycut. Amar'e didn't take a paycut. Tyson didn't take less to play for the Knicks, and both Kidd and Camby, two players who'll be over 40 by year 3 (and because of luxury tax, will cost Dolan $24M combined), would not have come here if all we offered was the vet min. We had to use up exceptions/give up assets to get them here. In fact, Stoudemire and Melo's contracts actually limited our cap room last year, whereas if they had taken a few million less like LeBron, Wade, and Bosh had, we would've had room for another max last summer.
On the other hand, Lin's contract has ZERO impact on our future maneuverability. It's just luxury tax money out of Dolan's pockets. Which is why I don't get why screaming Stephen A. Smith and his legions of lemming followers even give a sh*t. Dolan paid upwards of $120-130M on lottery teams, and yet he doesn't want to match Jeremy Lin? Lin will generate enough revenue to offset the tax hit on his own. Getting fatass Felton is a downgrade, no matter how you try to sugar up his short stint as a Knick.
Smoke24 wrote:towelie wrote:What is with Knicks fans and hating on players who try and get the most money they possibly can? Why do you have this mentality that, "if they don't take a paycut, then they truly don't care about the Knicks at all"?
Melo didn't take a paycut. Amar'e didn't take a paycut. Tyson didn't take less to play for the Knicks, and both Kidd and Camby, two players who'll be over 40 by year 3 (and because of luxury tax, will cost Dolan $24M combined), would not have come here if all we offered was the vet min. We had to use up exceptions/give up assets to get them here. In fact, Stoudemire and Melo's contracts actually limited our cap room last year, whereas if they had taken a few million less like LeBron, Wade, and Bosh had, we would've had room for another max last summer.
On the other hand, Lin's contract has ZERO impact on our future maneuverability. It's just luxury tax money out of Dolan's pockets. Which is why I don't get why screaming Stephen A. Smith and his legions of lemming followers even give a sh*t. Dolan paid upwards of $120-130M on lottery teams, and yet he doesn't want to match Jeremy Lin? Lin will generate enough revenue to offset the tax hit on his own. Getting fatass Felton is a downgrade, no matter how you try to sugar up his short stint as a Knick.
Mr_Perfect wrote:mpharris36 wrote:Mr_Perfect wrote:If Carmelo wanted Lin in NY then there is no question Lin would be re-signed. I don't think Carmelo has gone out of his way to express any interest in signing Lin. If he did, this wouldn't even be an issue right now. We know every move we make is to appease Carmelo so we wouldn't be making such a major move without his blessing.
He's the one that wanted Lin to play in the first place...Lin confirmed this story himself...so what do you say about that. Melo does not make the moves for this franchise
I guess my conspiracy theory is as far-fetched as Jeremy "the ungrateful punk" Lin "begging" the Rockets for more money to spite the Knicks, huh?
mpharris36 wrote:sinjz wrote:
The Knicks should of expected MORE than 4 years 28 with only 3 for 19 guaranteed. Everybody knew that was less than expected. Really only an extra 5 mill in year 3 from what was originally floated out there, and what we all thought was surprisingly cheap!
CHEAP! CHEAP! are u serious...
so 30 million over 4 years for a guy that played 25 games is cheap???
granted that 25 game stretch was very good...but he got a great offer still 30 million isn't cheap its a good fair offer that no one would ever get for just a 25 game stretch
Red Vines wrote:sinjz wrote:
Actually I don't think Lin ever confirmed it. I think he reaction was 'Wow, really, I didn't know that.' D'antoni outright denied it.Appearing with Boomer Esiason and Craig Carton Thursday morning on WFAN, Lin said he has a good relationship with Anthony and can’t understand the concern about the two of them playing together in the Knick lineup.
“I am confused by that, because the guy vouched for me in the first place,” said Lin, who went on to confirm reports that he got his shot in the Knicks lineup because Anthony, apparently frustrated with having to run the offense, asked Knicks coach Mike D’Antoni to give Lin a chance.
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-02 ... cks-lineup
sinjz wrote:mpharris36 wrote:XcalibuR wrote:
If the Knicks told everyone they would match any offer, then why shouldn't Lin get the most money. How would he even know what deal to sign?
maybe the knicks spread that rumor to deter teams from offering him so much...of course there is a limit for anything. The "1 billion dollars" comment was just talk. Lin had to know where the knicks were at.
You actually think the Knicks told Lin 'Accept offers up to this amount and we'll match, go over taht and we won't'?
