Jeremy Lin's Contract Saga: Part VII

[mpharris36]

Blame Lin, Morey, Dolan, whoever.

The truth is, if this is all it took to catch the Knicks with their pants down, then they are stupid.

Agreed. At the end of the day (literally, I guess), no matter who is at fault, Lin needs to be on the roster.

I mean I would like him back as well (in the james harden 6th man type role).

I know we all think we are great talent evaluators but at the end of the day we are just regular joe smoe's that think we know basketball really really well. Maybe knicks managment just doesn't think he will translate into a good player? They have talent evaluators, scouts, all types of people that are trying to project what type of player Lin can be. Whats to say if they don't thnik he will be anything more than a backup PG?

I am not saying there opinion on Lin is right but it is looking like that might be a risk they are willing to take.

[SelbyCobra]

This was already discussed. Why would Lin try to renegotiate Houston's offer sheet when Houston was the ONLY team to even give him an offer? It's not like there was a bidding war going on for Lin. He had no leverage to renegotiate at all. There really wasn't that much of a market for him since other GM's figured the Knicks would indeed match any offer. Morey just decided to call the bluff and thus throw a wrench in the Knicks' plans.

And none of that means anything unless Lin actually signs the offer sheet.

I said it earlier, but this wasn't like an auction with two teams bidding on an item, the item up for bid here has total control over the process in the end.

If everyone here knows Morey was throwing a monkeywrench into the equation, if we can all know that the industry term for this type of contract escalation is "a poison pill", then Lin and his agent were 100% aware of what the contract meant - he didn't just see the deal and say "oh yay, more money!" To pretend otherwise is to not understand the rules of an RFA, or to hold a biased viewpoint in favor of Lin himself.

And I'm really hoping they still match this.

[goshjosh]

If Knicks don't match, HOU @ NYK will be the most anticipated game since Lebron's return to Cleveland in 2010.

[K_ick_God]

It's Dolan's money so if he wants to make the call not to pay Jeremy, and the upside of him financially is not there as it seems to be, then fine. Just let him go. But then why carry old guys like Kidd and Camby on the roster? Completely pointless.

And why have Melo and Amar'e? You would have a win-now team with no shot at winning now.

You are going absolutely nowhere -- and fast -- with Ray as the quarterback. It's not happening. Get real. That team is clearly limited in its ceiling.

So fine, if you dump Lin -- have a firesale and sell off your assets.

It just makes us look like bigger losers than we really are to have older players and be preparing for a playoff run with effectively no chance to go anywhere.

And if you don't believe me, just look at Felton's last two playoff performances. They were both abysmal.

Ray could play great in November and December and look like a world beater and it is a guaranteed thing that he will be much worse come playoff time. He was horrible with the Bobcats and horrible with the Nuggets -- because he's not that talented and not that good.

[Jay10]

Blame Lin, Morey, Dolan, whoever.

The truth is, if this is all it took to catch the Knicks with their pants down, then they are stupid.

you're saying "blame lin" yet you're deflecting the blame to the knicks.

You need stronger reading comprehension skills my friend

[ZeroStatic2]

This is not good. It's only 10:10 AM and we only have 38 pages in this thread.

[mpharris36]

New mod in town bitches.

come get some "paco"

[BBALLER4FR]

This saga is probably why Kidd went on his drinking binge before the ink dried. He spent so many years avoiding the NY BS only to finally come and watch the fiasco where the PG he was supposed to guide won't even be here. What is Kidd's motivation going forward? To tutor Felton? TO feed Melo and Smith? Bet he wishes he followed his gut and stayed away from this stupid franchise.

Giving up on a 23y/o gold mine because your feelings are hurt. Not signing him if only for the sole purpose of using him as a trade chip. Trading for (and giving a 4th year player option to) Raymond Felton to replace the one guy who lit up the NBA in his rookie season and brought Chinese culture back to levels not seen since Yao Ming...

[gelek]

@FisolaNYDN

This isn't about money, it's about Jeremy (I won't play at 85%) Lin ticking off Dolan and the organization that gave him a chance.

^I hope he's trolling, Lin gave the Knicks a chance to make the playoffs... "the organisation that gave him a chance"?!? B*tch please, we should be thankful we didn't have to run TD/Bibby every night...

Lin doesn't own Knicks anything. If Lin is not given a chance here, he will get his chance eventually from some other team, he works hard and he can ball.

But that only applies if you don't still are operating on an (subconscious) mindset that Lin can't play and is a scrub. Remember, even though most agree that Lin at least proved that he's solid NBA material there are still some that think it was all a freak accident like winning the powerball or something and Lin really is like any other common person. (A bit like "Like Mike" only instead of a black child we have a grown asian man that is 6'4" and has played NCAA Div I BBall for 4 years)

[GONYK]

Blame Lin, Morey, Dolan, whoever.

The truth is, if this is all it took to catch the Knicks with their pants down, then they are stupid.

Agreed. At the end of the day (literally, I guess), no matter who is at fault, Lin needs to be on the roster.

I mean I would like him back as well (in the james harden 6th man type role).

I know we all think we are great talent evaluators but at the end of the day we are just regular joe smoe's that think we know basketball really really well. Maybe knicks managment just doesn't think he will translate into a good player? They have talent evaluators, scouts, all types of people that are trying to project what type of player Lin can be. Whats to say if they don't thnik he will be anything more than a backup PG?

I am not saying there opinion on Lin is right but it is looking like that might be a risk they are willing to take.

What is the risk?

You get to audition him for 2 years at $5M per season before you need to even entertain the idea of whether or not he is worth 15.

Where is the risk?

[F N 11]

The knicks can never go without any drama. The media affects us fans as well as the players and management to destroy ourselves. Its getting sickening.

[K_ick_God]

If Knicks don't match, HOU @ NYK will be the most anticipated game since Lebron's return to Cleveland in 2010.

Have to disagree with you there. MSG will be a morgue. There will be very little excitement at the Garden -- more like abject depression. And Lin coming back to torch us will just be another swift kick in the pants.

Melo and Felton will get abused by the fans, I'm telling you.

[NBA Fan 1234]

New mod in town bitches.

come get some "paco"

[goshjosh]

This is not good. It's only 10:10 AM and we only have 38 pages in this thread.

damn, who's that girl in your avatar?

[Jay10]

If Knicks don't match, HOU @ NYK will be the most anticipated game since Lebron's return to Cleveland in 2010.

[Falstaffxx]

Blame Lin, Morey, Dolan, whoever.

The truth is, if this is all it took to catch the Knicks with their pants down, then they are stupid.

Agreed. At the end of the day (literally, I guess), no matter who is at fault, Lin needs to be on the roster.

why?

/facepalm

[spaceballer]

@FisolaNYDN

This isn't about money, it's about Jeremy (I won't play at 85%) Lin ticking off Dolan and the organization that gave him a chance.

^I hope he's trolling, Lin gave the Knicks a chance to make the playoffs... "the organisation that gave him a chance"?!? B*tch please, we should be thankful we didn't have to run TD/Bibby every night...

Lin doesn't own Knicks anything. If Lin is not given a chance here, he will get his chance eventually from some other team, he works hard and he can ball.

Yep, Boston put in waiver claims and tried to pick Lin up off waivers both times, but they lost out because they had a better record than Houston and New York (waiver claims are assigned to whichever team has the worst record).

I'm sure the Celtics or some other team would have picked him up if the Knicks had cut him. With the type of determination, talent, work ethic, and perseverance that Jeremy has, he would have gotten his shot somewhere. It may have taken longer, possibly much longer with years of backup journeyman like Dragic, but he wasn't going to be out of the NBA. Lin would have eventually gotten his shot somewhere other than NY.

Meanwhile, Toney Douglas and Bibby would have destroyed any chance of the Knicks making the post season. Seems to me the Knicks owe him just as much, if not more, than he owes the Knicks.

[GoNYK1288]

New mod in town bitches.

Pacoooo

[Jay10]

[quote="Falstaffxx"][quote="Jay10"][quote="Falstaffxx"][quote="GONYK"]Blame Lin, Morey, Dolan, whoever.

The truth is, if this is all it took to catch the Knicks with their pants down, then they are stupid.[quote]

Agreed. At the end of the day (literally, I guess), no matter who is at fault, Lin needs to be on the roster.[quote]

why?[quote][quote][quote]

/facepalm[quote]

? = a question is being asked.

[Falstaffxx]

? = a question is being asked.

No.