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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#1041 » by Jay10 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:18 am

[quote="jzmagik"][quote="uncarved"]http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8174968/jeremy-lin-leaving-new-york-knicks-james-dolan-blundered-again

[quote]This isn't Jim Dolan folding pocket aces. It's Jim wiping his ass with pocket aces, paper-cutting himself repeatedly with them, and then devouring the whole mess, like Cronos and his babies, in front of a horrified audience.[quote][quote]

:lol:

US media is going to town on the Knicks incompetency. This is gonna be a **** for NY[quote]

it would've been like this no matter what the outcome was
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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#1042 » by Red Vines » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:18 am

jzmagik wrote:
uncarved wrote:http://www.grantland.com/story/_/id/8174968/jeremy-lin-leaving-new-york-knicks-james-dolan-blundered-again

This isn't Jim Dolan folding pocket aces. It's Jim wiping his ass with pocket aces, paper-cutting himself repeatedly with them, and then devouring the whole mess, like Cronos and his babies, in front of a horrified audience.


:lol:

US media is going to town on the Knicks incompetency. This is gonna be a **** for NY


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Post#1043 » by jzmagik » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:19 am

Jay10 wrote:
it would've been like this no matter what the outcome was


If the Knicks matched, you'd only be hearing SAS complaining about what a bad mistake it was. There was a right move, and a wrong move. The Knicks chose to make the later.
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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#1044 » by NyKnicks1714 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:20 am

Our owner is a very stupid human being. I don't have much else to say. He's just a dumb guy.
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Post#1045 » by kNicksGmen » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:21 am

howe070523 wrote:18-25

what does that represent? the knicks record under an incompetent coach, no pg and zombie stat?

o wait let's blame melo. :roll:
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Post#1046 » by knicksosmoove » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:22 am

NyKnicks1714 wrote:Our owner is a very stupid human being. I don't have much else to say. He's just a dumb guy.


beautifully put.
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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#1047 » by foilfence » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:24 am

Novak chimes in:

stevenovak20 Steve Novak
@JLin7 U will be missed my friend. As great a teammate as I've had. Wish u all the best in H-town!
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Post#1048 » by Red Vines » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:24 am

foilfence wrote:Novak chimes in:

stevenovak20 Steve Novak
@JLin7 U will be missed my friend. As great a teammate as I've had. Wish u all the best in H-town!


Novak...loyal to the core, true Knick.
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Post#1049 » by jzmagik » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:25 am

foilfence wrote:Novak chimes in:

stevenovak20 Steve Novak
@JLin7 U will be missed my friend. As great a teammate as I've had. Wish u all the best in H-town!


Novak was probably the only real supporter Lin had left.
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Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Lin 

Post#1050 » by howe070523 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:26 am

jzmagik wrote:
foilfence wrote:Novak chimes in:

stevenovak20 Steve Novak
@JLin7 U will be missed my friend. As great a teammate as I've had. Wish u all the best in H-town!


Novak was probably the only real supporter Lin had left.

Lin got him the big fat contract, he better be


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Post#1051 » by Red Vines » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:27 am

jzmagik wrote:Novak was probably the only real supporter Lin had left.


The only guy who didn't have to set picks for Lin to advance the ball past half court.
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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#1052 » by ITALIA17 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:27 am

Whoever the host on espn ny radio is, is HIGH AS A KITE
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Post#1053 » by 13th Man » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:30 am

foilfence wrote:Novak chimes in:

stevenovak20 Steve Novak
@JLin7 U will be missed my friend. As great a teammate as I've had. Wish u all the best in H-town!


Novak and Jeffries are great teammates to have!
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Post#1054 » by ibraheim718 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:30 am

Are the Knicks a better basketball team without Jeremy Lin?

Last year, there were 259 NBA players who used more than 300 possessions. Of those players, Jason Kidd ranked 242nd in points per possession. That was four spots higher than his new teammate Raymond Felton. Lin ranked 192nd.

Jeremy Lin had a well-publicized turnover problem last season that became a talking point for every talking head who wanted to point out something bad about a player who had saved a dismal season, ignited interest in the NBA among millions of people worldwide, and dropped 38 against Kobe Bryant in the Garden. It's true — of those same 259 players who used over 300 possessions, Lin ranked 252nd with a 21.4 turnover percentage. Raymond Felton ranked 244th at 19.6 percent. Jason Kidd? 257th at 24.2 percent. Guess who was 256th? Rajon Rondo. 258th? Steve Nash.

Maybe it's time to stop worrying about turnover numbers and examine whether or not those turnovers came within an aggressive system that created a lot of open shots, and, more important, generated wins for the team.

Did the Knicks win with Jeremy Lin as their point guard? Have the people of Portland ever encountered a person they hated more than Raymond Felton? Is Jason Kidd old and terrible? Between Lin, Felton, and Kidd, whom do you trust to adjust to playing with Carmelo Anthony and Amar'e Stoudemire, a.k.a. FLAT (f*cked-up Leg And Talented), for a full season? What, exactly, am I missing here?

Also, outside of his immediate family, friends, and maybe a few crazed UNC alums, nobody has ever paid for a ticket to watch Raymond Felton play basketball.

But hey, adding salary money when you're already paying the luxury tax for FLAT, Melo, Tyson Chandler, Marcus Camby, and others doesn't make "basketball sense," right? And spending Jim Dolan's money wisely has become the burden of every Knicks fan, right? And the logical move, empirically speaking, would be to blindly side with the one rich owner who has done more to disgrace the good name of logic than anyone else in the history of the NBA?


:lol: I'm sorry but this was hilarious....
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Post#1055 » by Red Vines » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:31 am

"Clown offer, bro." Good stuff from Berger:

If the Knicks are wrong, does that mean, in turn, that the Rockets are right?

In other words, does logic follow that Jeremy Lin will be a $14.9 million basketball player three years from now? Can anyone say that with certainty?

The truth is, no one can; not even the Rockets. What the Rockets did here was the basketball equivalent of naked shortselling or some other devious mechanism of the financial markets that so obviously have failed us over the past four years. The Rockets are Lehman Brothers or Bear Stearns on this particular transaction, and it isn't so much a question of who wins the modern-day press conference on Twitter but who foots the bill down the road.

Or, to put it in terms that all of us can easily understand, I defer to the great basketball philosopher, Carmelo Anthony, who aptly branded the Rockets' offer for Lin "ridiculous." Leave it to Melo to boil down the NBA's debate of the day into a single word that nails it.

I agree with Melo. To put the Rockets' decision in terms that are more suited to our current 30-second news cycle: That was a clown offer, bro.


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Post#1057 » by howe070523 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:34 am

Red Vines wrote:"Clown offer, bro." Good stuff from Berger:

If the Knicks are wrong, does that mean, in turn, that the Rockets are right?

In other words, does logic follow that Jeremy Lin will be a $14.9 million basketball player three years from now? Can anyone say that with certainty?

The truth is, no one can; not even the Rockets. What the Rockets did here was the basketball equivalent of naked shortselling or some other devious mechanism of the financial markets that so obviously have failed us over the past four years. The Rockets are Lehman Brothers or Bear Stearns on this particular transaction, and it isn't so much a question of who wins the modern-day press conference on Twitter but who foots the bill down the road.

Or, to put it in terms that all of us can easily understand, I defer to the great basketball philosopher, Carmelo Anthony, who aptly branded the Rockets' offer for Lin "ridiculous." Leave it to Melo to boil down the NBA's debate of the day into a single word that nails it.

I agree with Melo. To put the Rockets' decision in terms that are more suited to our current 30-second news cycle: That was a clown offer, bro.


http://www.cbssports.com/columns/story/ ... -are-right

Clown article, it's like who knows if dh12 would still be alive 3 years from now.


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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#1058 » by can o peas » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:34 am

Red Vines wrote:
taj2133 wrote:Stefan Bondy: Linsanity was fun for eight or nine games. But in six months, he'll be a turnover machine on a last-place team in Houston. now

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz20wZUMCZx


OUCH!


He followed that up with this:

Stefan Bondy: That being said, Carmelo also made it all bout the money by forcing Knicks 2 trade away team. Not only was Dolan not mad, he upped the offer about 7 minutes ago

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter/media.html#ixzz20wfayapk


He's a Nets beat writer.
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Re: Breaking News: Knicks confirmed they are not matching Li 

Post#1059 » by juxtaposition » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:35 am

howe070523 wrote:
jzmagik wrote:
Novak was probably the only real supporter Lin had left.

Lin got him the big fat contract, he better be



That's not fair :( I know we're upset about Lin leaving but let's not piss on other players.

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Post#1060 » by smw6230 » Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:36 am

3StarburyAriza21 wrote:
He was what, 6-0, with a starting lineup of Chandler, Jeffries, Novak, Walker, and him. He'll be fine.


While it is true that Lin was 6-0 with that supporting cast, it must be mentioned that he wasn't in the defensive game plan at that point. Nobody knew who he was and nobody really studied his game and stopped him from doing anything he wanted to do. Once Lin got about 10 games in defenses started adjusting and accounting for him in their game plan.

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