Official Speculation Thread (Pt.XL Off-Season Edition)

fart · Post #521 » by **fart** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:29 pm

Ohh, my bad. I assumed they were already signed if they were playing in SL

rcklsscognition · Post #522 » by **rcklsscognition** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:29 pm

Larry Coon ‏@LarryCoon

Doesn't align with their thinking. RT @tonyflo: Of course they want Bynum. By far #2 center in NBA.
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6m Larry Coon Larry Coon ‏@LarryCoon

...bad contracts and keep their young guys, or find a happy medium between the two. @Ackleydad4350
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6m Larry Coon Larry Coon ‏@LarryCoon

From what I'm hearing, they're willing to take back the RT @Ackleydad4350: reports says Houston will not take back all those bad contracts.

MagicTownBaller · Post #523 » by **MagicTownBaller** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:32 pm

Now we're getting crap from Cleveland? Wow, just wow.

Br0ken_Sp0ke · Post #524 » by **Br0ken_Sp0ke** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:33 pm

Haven’t looked at their cap situation, but I’m guessing CLE can take back a lot more bad contracts than HOU? And getting multiple future picks you can pick out on your own might be more appealing than getting the stuff Morey already picked out. If CLE’s pick is only top 3 protected like TOR’s, it might not be a bad deal.

Ballah · Post #525 » by **Ballah** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:35 pm

Cleveland with Kyrie and Howard would be a good team, their pick would suck.

InFlames · Post #526 » by **InFlames** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:36 pm

Cleveland has nothing, to think they can get Bynum for Varajao is hilarious.

The Effect · Post #527 » by **The Effect** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:38 pm

Skin wrote:Can we just do this and call it a day?

SERIOUSLY!!!!

I wish dwight would realize what a huge marketing opportunity he would have in houston and be open to play there long term. Houston is a big market that is only going to get bigger now with Lin. I mean Dwight already has a huge following in china, but this will only help make it even bigger, which im sure adidas already knows and will likely still pay him accordingly. Plus playing in houston under McHale, and working with hakeem more will just make him a better offensive player and make him one of the best centers to EVER play.

If he was willing to sign a long term max contract with them, id bet anything they would give up those 3 and the toronto pick and probably another asset while taking back a bad contract, and would do it so fast that hennys head would spin

TDJacksonville · Post #528 » by **TDJacksonville** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:41 pm

Br0ken_Sp0ke wrote:Haven’t looked at their cap situation, but I’m guessing CLE can take back a lot more bad contracts than HOU? And getting multiple future picks you can pick out on your own might be more appealing than getting the stuff Morey already picked out. If CLE’s pick is only top 3 protected like TOR’s, it might not be a bad deal.

they have enough room to take BBD, QRICH and DUDU :wink:

The1llness · Post #529 » by **The1llness** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:44 pm

The Effect wrote:If he was willing to sign a long term max contract with them, id bet anything they would give up those 3 and the toronto pick and probably another asset while taking back a bad contract, and would do it so fast that hennys head would spin

Seriously, but they can keep White and throw in Montejunas.

The Effect · Post #530 » by **The Effect** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:44 pm

InFlames wrote:Cleveland has nothing, to think they can get Bynum for Varajao is hilarious.

What i find funny is that they want to get the "2nd best center" in the NBA, but refuse to give up an overdrafted rookie to do it? ? Personally there isnt anyone outside of Kyrie (obviously hes not going anywhere) i would want from that team.

Thompson was overrated coming out and dont see what we would do with him, Waiters was one of the bigger reaches ive seen in a LONG time and i dont even know if i would be happy if we got him at 19 let alone at 4, and the rest of their roster should be making league min cause they are garbage, and yes that include Sideshow Flop

TDJacksonville · Post #531 » by **TDJacksonville** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:45 pm

Cammo101 wrote:Technically Wiggins is a 2015 prospect. Though most expect him to reclassify like Drummond and Noel have the last 2 years and become eligible for the 2014 draft.

He has no chance of being in the 2013 draft.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/22 ... ss_Of_2013

apparently hes a 2014 guy with the potential to go 2013

The Effect · Post #532 » by **The Effect** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:46 pm

The1llness wrote:
The Effect wrote:If he was willing to sign a long term max contract with them, id bet anything they would give up those 3 and the toronto pick and probably another asset while taking back a bad contract, and would do it so fast that hennys head would spin

Seriously, but they can keep White and throw in Montejunas.

I dont know, i really like white and have since before the draft, just reminds me so much of Anthony Mason, who was one of my favorite players growing up. Not saying i wouldnt love to have Montejunas too, but to me its not a complete deal breaker

IGotDaMagicInMe · Post #533 » by **IGotDaMagicInMe** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:47 pm

The Effect wrote:
InFlames wrote:Cleveland has nothing, to think they can get Bynum for Varajao is hilarious.

What i find funny is that they want to get the "2nd best center" in the NBA, but refuse to give up an overdrafted rookie to do it? ? Personally there isnt anyone outside of Kyrie (obviously hes not going anywhere) i would want from that team.

Thompson was overrated coming out and dont see what we would do with him, Waiters was one of the bigger reaches ive seen in a LONG time and i dont even know if i would be happy if we got him at 19 let alone at 4, and the rest of their roster should be making league min cause they are garbage, and yes that include Sideshow Flop

Carrotflop isnt THAT bad

TDJacksonville · Post #534 » by **TDJacksonville** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:48 pm

The Effect wrote:
The1llness wrote:
The Effect wrote:If he was willing to sign a long term max contract with them, id bet anything they would give up those 3 and the toronto pick and probably another asset while taking back a bad contract, and would do it so fast that hennys head would spin

Seriously, but they can keep White and throw in Montejunas.

I dont know, i really like white and have since before the draft, just reminds me so much of Anthony Mason, who was one of my favorite players growing up. Not saying i wouldnt love to have Montejunas too, but to me its not a complete deal breaker

would u rather have Anthony Mason or Pau Gasol/Dirk?

InFlames · Post #535 » by **InFlames** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:48 pm

The Effect wrote:
InFlames wrote:Cleveland has nothing, to think they can get Bynum for Varajao is hilarious.

What i find funny is that they want to get the "2nd best center" in the NBA, but refuse to give up an overdrafted rookie to do it? ? Personally there isnt anyone outside of Kyrie (obviously hes not going anywhere) i would want from that team.

Thompson was overrated coming out and dont see what we would do with him, Waiters was one of the bigger reaches ive seen in a LONG time and i dont even know if i would be happy if we got him at 19 let alone at 4, and the rest of their roster should be making league min cause they are garbage, and yes that include Sideshow Flop

Exactly, and people think we just want to trade Dwight for a salary dump which is flat out (Please Use More Appropriate Word). We want prospects, Cleveland doesn't have that.

Haha like that "pleause use more appropriate word"

Ahmadab · Post #536 » by **Ahmadab** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:49 pm

http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=10555

TDJacksonville · Post #537 » by **TDJacksonville** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:50 pm

IGotDaMagicInMe wrote:
The Effect wrote:What i find funny is that they want to get the "2nd best center" in the NBA, but refuse to give up an overdrafted rookie to do it? ? Personally there isnt anyone outside of Kyrie (obviously hes not going anywhere) i would want from that team.

Thompson was overrated coming out and dont see what we would do with him, Waiters was one of the bigger reaches ive seen in a LONG time and i dont even know if i would be happy if we got him at 19 let alone at 4, and the rest of their roster should be making league min cause they are garbage, and yes that include Sideshow Flop

Carrotflop isnt THAT bad

i agree. hes a solid NBA BIG on a reasonable contract unlike the Bigs getting deals in FA. Exhibit A Brook Lopez

The1llness · Post #538 » by **The1llness** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:52 pm

The Magic should really only be focused on getting rid of J-Rich with Dwight at this point as his contract runs the longest.

Duhon, Hedo & J.J aren't going to be on this team next summer regardless.

Q-Rich, as bad as he's under-performing his contract, is only marginal and won't make a big difference in the grand scheme of things.

BBD, if he can maintain an average of 15/10, won't be difficult to move in a subsequent deal.

As for Jameer; :noway:

. IDK what Henny was thinking resigning him, for 3 years no less.

One Love · Post #539 » by **One Love** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:53 pm

Good luck...

OrlandO · Post #540 » by **OrlandO** » Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:55 pm

I don't care how many contracts Cleveland takes back, they don't have anything to give us. Their players are forgettable outside of Irving and their multiple picks are worthless since they come from Miami and LA. I believe their pick from the Kings is overprotected too.

I don't understand why we need to get rid of all of our unwanted contracts right away. We can trade some of them later when playoff teams need to replenish or fill voids. JRich and Big Baby can easily be dealt for less talented players with better contracts.