Valanciunas can't get on the floor.

lpbman · Post #161 » by **lpbman** » Sun Aug 5, 2012 3:08 pm

He's raw like a sandpaper sybian. He'll be fine by the time his contract is up.

navyche · Post #162 » by **navyche** » Sun Aug 5, 2012 4:11 pm

What Raptor fans need to realize is that Val will be great once he learns how to open the door. Get on the floor. Everybody walk the dinosaur.

Blame Rasho · Post #163 » by **Blame Rasho** » Sun Aug 5, 2012 4:13 pm

He isn't getting a chance to play, simple as that. There are various reasons, if you want to make it more than what it is fine.

JWiLL02 · Post #164 » by **JWiLL02** » Sun Aug 5, 2012 5:03 pm

lpbman wrote:He's raw like a sandpaper sybian. He'll be fine by the time his contract is up.

That's the thing though, he's not that "raw". He has a lot to learn in terms of playing positional defense, and his offensive game is obviously going to continue to develop, but I wouldn't apply the term "raw" to a big capable of hitting nealy 60%+ of his shots while shooting 85%+ from the FT line. His hands and touch around the basket are too good for him to look like what I would consider raw from a young big.

I can't wait til Casey gets a hold of this kid, he needs a change of scenery in the worst way. The switch to the NBA will be the best thing to happen to him, ala Rubio.

Amish Mafioso · Post #165 » by **Amish Mafioso** » Sun Aug 5, 2012 5:33 pm

Blame Rasho wrote:He isn't getting a chance to play, simple as that. There are various reasons, if you want to make it more than what it is fine.

Not good enough.
No need to make it seem more complicated than it is.

Niko23 · Post #166 » by **Niko23** » Sun Aug 5, 2012 5:37 pm

Season needs to start so we can see him play in the NBA

Scase · Post #167 » by **Scase** » Sun Aug 5, 2012 8:14 pm

DAVIS PLAYED ZERO MIN IN THE GAME AGAINST LIT, BUUUUUUUUUUUUUST.

See how stupid that sounds? He's a young kid so he gets less min.

Dr Positivity · Post #168 » by **Dr Positivity** » Sun Aug 5, 2012 8:18 pm

The problem for Jonas isn't that he's putting up weak numbers/minutes, it's that he doesn't look like a very talented player doing it

edquantum · Post #169 » by **edquantum** » Sun Aug 5, 2012 8:28 pm

Amish Mafioso wrote:
Blame Rasho wrote:He isn't getting a chance to play, simple as that. There are various reasons, if you want to make it more than what it is fine.

Not good enough.
No need to make it seem more complicated than it is.

4 points and 1 rebound in 8 minutes against the best competition in the world, against NBA superstars. Davis played zero minutes. Simple as that.

Niko23 · Post #170 » by **Niko23** » Sun Aug 5, 2012 8:38 pm

What are you trying to say?

JWiLL02 · Post #171 » by **JWiLL02** » Sun Aug 5, 2012 8:46 pm

Dr Positivity wrote:The problem for Jonas isn't that he's putting up weak numbers/minutes, it's that he doesn't look like a very talented player doing it

Just stay away from anything Jonas related, Mufasa .

Go do something productive, like working on your Meyers Leonard shrine.

Amish Mafioso · Post #172 » by **Amish Mafioso** » Sun Aug 5, 2012 8:58 pm

edquantum wrote:
Amish Mafioso wrote:
Blame Rasho wrote:He isn't getting a chance to play, simple as that. There are various reasons, if you want to make it more than what it is fine.

Not good enough.
No need to make it seem more complicated than it is.

4 points and 1 rebound in 8 minutes against the best competition in the world, against NBA superstars. Davis played zero minutes. Simple as that.

Man, was i ever wrong. Looks like he tearin it up.

Post #173 » by **Rerisen** » Sun Aug 5, 2012 9:09 pm

Kanter couldn't get much play for Turkey in the World Championships either, but he did 'ok' for his rookie season.

JWiLL02 · Post #174 » by **JWiLL02** » Sun Aug 5, 2012 9:20 pm

We've already seen what Jonas can do vs. NBA competition when he gets extended PT during Eurobasket last summer.

It's not like he's regressed, it's just a different situation and there are clearly some issues there with the coach. The reliance on small ball line ups doesn't help either.

Post #175 » by **Nuntius** » Sun Aug 5, 2012 9:31 pm

SalamiNCheez wrote:Lots of Cavs fans and Jazz fans in here that care so much about Val for some reason. So your teams drafted the wrong big man in last year's draft, so what. It's no big deal.

Yeah, I don't really get that post.

I just don't see why some fans have to hate on some players because their teams passed on them on draft night.

Personally, I consider Valanciunas better than Kanter but that doesn't mean that Kanter sucks. Similarly, Tristan Thompson is a different player than Val and is actually good at what he does. So, I don't see where the need for resentment lies.

KING CB4 · Post #176 » by **KING CB4** » Sun Aug 5, 2012 10:13 pm

dhh2h wrote:
bertrob wrote:He seems so average
Don't see him being more than another Dalembert level C

And theres nothing necessarily wrong with having a slightly better version of prime Dalembert

Sure beats Tristan Thompson

Be honest, you didn't watch Thompson play at all last season.

Markutis · Post #177 » by **Markutis** » Mon Aug 6, 2012 12:12 am

How many more years do you need to realize that in Europe basketball is a whole different concept already? How many predictions based on stats about european players to learn they always increase their stats in the NBA?

Basketball in Europe is TEAMWORK. Every player is submitted to the coach interpretation of the team needs, regardless of his talent and status. Valanciunas will do just good in the NBA.

JV4MVP · Post #178 » by **JV4MVP** » Mon Aug 6, 2012 12:16 am

It will be fun to bump this thread in January :wink:

Chaos Engine · Post #179 » by **Chaos Engine** » Mon Aug 6, 2012 12:52 am

Regression2u wrote:It will be fun to bump this thread in January

Val will have a rough rookie year. He will be a foul machine and get bullied in the post. give him a few years to adapt to the nba and then re-assess.

JWiLL02 · Post #180 » by **JWiLL02** » Mon Aug 6, 2012 1:26 am

Chaos Engine wrote:
Regression2u wrote:It will be fun to bump this thread in January

Val will have a rough rookie year. He will be a foul machine and get bullied in the post. give him a few years to adapt to the nba and then re-assess.

He'll also have games where he doesn't foul and his motor + ability to finish around the basket results in a big statline with great efficiency.

And yeah, there will be plenty of reactionary threads as a result.