Jonas Valanciunas Summer Discussion II

[Yoga]

JV is gonna play like **** and then get sent to the D-League midway through the season


There, expectations low enough?

Lol Jonas V went from ROY to future all-star....to now D-League bust with his Olympic performance.

[UcanUwill]

My biggest worry with Val is that he doesn't reach his potential as a post player. He himself said that he loves rolling more. It would suck to have 2 big guys and not one of them posts up regularly.

He likes rolling, but he also likes to post up. I think as of now, he is stuck in ''Brandon Wright'' limbo, where hes not strong enough to be effective in the post. He rarely gets a good shot from there, not because his post moves are that bad, but because he cant bang.

[ash_k]

My biggest worry with Val is that he doesn't reach his potential as a post player. He himself said that he loves rolling more. It would suck to have 2 big guys and not one of them posts up regularly.

He likes rolling, but he also likes to post up. I think as of now, he is stuck in ''Brandon Wright'' limbo, where hes not strong enough to be effective in the post. He rarely gets a good shot from there, not because his post moves are that bad, but because he cant bang.

"Brandon Wright" limbo??Wow..you giving Brandon Wright WAYY too much "Credit"...

His preference to the "rolling-to-the-basket" game, it's what makes him that 4/5 type of player he is projected to be..

He has the touch around the basket, the touch at the free-throws line ...once he matures physically and gets stronger his post-game will be just fine (he has the touch)

[YoungG]

I think everyone needs to take J.V.'s olympic performances with a grain of salt.

1. He's 19 or just turned 20
2. Played in a professional league but with different rules and regulations and the talent level is not as strong as it is in the NBA
3. In the olympics, he's playing against the best America (NBA) has to offer at this point. There are players with lesser talent than a Lebron James and Tyson Chandler in the NBA.
4. We as Raptor fans, we just want to win and are looking for ANY sign of an exciting talent to bring us back to the VC/T-Mac era. It WILL take time, and i know patience isn't usually in our vocabularies (especially after being terrible for so many years) but we will just need to learn to add it.

[theSkinny]

btw the results oriented reactions of this board are so predictable, half are blaming the coach, other half know he's going to be a project etc. etc. Mustafa trying hard not to declare him a complete bust .

I think he actually looked better vs Argentina than he his last handful of games (his last few Rytas games and the Olympic qualifying tournament), I haven't learned much at all about Jonas from this Olympics

The fact that you still think anyone cares or thinks any of your player opinions have any validity to them is beyond me. Have any of your predictions ever panned out? Is your average above 0.000 yet?
Have you ever even been to a game that wasn't in your high school at any level live? (no a globetrotters game doesn't count).

You are not a scout, you have no skill as one nor will you ever.. But, please don't let that stop you in the future the humor factor is totally worth the price of admission.

[JWiLL02]

btw the results oriented reactions of this board are so predictable, half are blaming the coach, other half know he's going to be a project etc. etc. Mustafa trying hard not to declare him a complete bust .

I think he actually looked better vs Argentina than he his last handful of games (his last few Rytas games and the Olympic qualifying tournament), I haven't learned much at all about Jonas from this Olympics

The fact that you still think anyone cares or thinks any of your player opinions have any validity to them is beyond me. Have any of your predictions ever panned out? Is your average above 0.000 yet?
Have you ever even been to a game that wasn't in your high school at any level live? (no a globetrotters game doesn't count).

You are not a scout, you have no skill as one nor will you ever.. But, please don't let that stop you in the future the humor factor is totally worth the price of admission.

Get off his back man.

Meyers Leonard is the future, Anthony Davis and Val are just overhyped bums.

[Dr Positivity]

Rough day, theSkinny?

[theSkinny]

Not at all, but I have had enough of you.

How about you just quit trying to be some sort of expert on players for awhile?

Again, have you EVER been to any sort of professional game before? Or are we still basing everything off YouTube?

[RapsFanInVA]

Not at all, but I have had enough of you.

How about you just quit trying to be some sort of expert on players for awhile?

Again, have you EVER been to any sort of professional game before? Or are we still basing everything off YouTube?

Give credit where credit is due. He nailed the James Johnson pre-draft prediction:

"I think he'd be perfect for a team looking for a 3 point shooting PF who can hold his own in the post, looking to mimic what the Magic did with Rashard Lewis. He's a good new-age NBA type pick."

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[Laowai]

Not at all, but I have had enough of you.

How about you just quit trying to be some sort of expert on players for awhile?

Again, have you EVER been to any sort of professional game before? Or are we still basing everything off YouTube?

Give credit where credit is due. He nailed the James Johnson pre-draft prediction:

"I think he'd be perfect for a team looking for a 3 point shooting PF who can hold his own in the post, looking to mimic what the Magic did with Rashard Lewis. He's a good new-age NBA type pick."

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Yes and a broken clock is right 2 times a day!

[Spicy P]

Not at all, but I have had enough of you.

How about you just quit trying to be some sort of expert on players for awhile?

Again, have you EVER been to any sort of professional game before? Or are we still basing everything off YouTube?

Give credit where credit is due. He nailed the James Johnson pre-draft prediction:

"I think he'd be perfect for a team looking for a 3 point shooting PF who can hold his own in the post, looking to mimic what the Magic did with Rashard Lewis. He's a good new-age NBA type pick."

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3-point shooting PF? Rashard Lewis? How did he nail that one exactly?

[MaliBrah]

he's being sarcastic ahah

[Dr Positivity]

You guys should contact Relentless to get his juicy quote that he's brought up only 15 times about how I said Anthony Davis looked like a LMA type big coming out of high school at this time last year. Oh, the shame!

[RapsFanInVA]

Not at all, but I have had enough of you.

How about you just quit trying to be some sort of expert on players for awhile?

Again, have you EVER been to any sort of professional game before? Or are we still basing everything off YouTube?

Give credit where credit is due. He nailed the James Johnson pre-draft prediction:

"I think he'd be perfect for a team looking for a 3 point shooting PF who can hold his own in the post, looking to mimic what the Magic did with Rashard Lewis. He's a good new-age NBA type pick."

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3-point shooting PF? Rashard Lewis? How did he nail that one exactly?

Didn't think that one needed green font.

I have nothing against Dr. Mufasa/Positivity, that was just a lighthearted jab. I respect him for putting in the time and effort to come up with evaluations, even if I don't take any of his evaluations seriously.

[Spicy P]

Didn't think that one needed green font.

I have nothing against Dr. Mufasa/Positivity, that was just a lighthearted jab. I respect him for putting in the time and effort to come up with evaluations, even if I don't take any of his evaluations seriously.

It didn't. I knew you were kidding until I scrolled down and saw the broken clock comment and thought you guys were actually serious.

[RapsFanInVA]

Didn't think that one needed green font.

I have nothing against Dr. Mufasa/Positivity, that was just a lighthearted jab. I respect him for putting in the time and effort to come up with evaluations, even if I don't take any of his evaluations seriously.

It didn't. I knew you were kidding until I scrolled down and saw the broken clock comment and thought you guys were actually serious.

not sure what happened to Laowai there. Maybe he believes James Johnson had his development stunted by both Thibs and Casey, and now the Kings will unlock his true potential by sticking him in the corner and giving him the green light, a la Lewis.

[lolwut]

Some say a picture is worth a thousand words, but this picture is worth perhaps just one short sentence.

[UcanUwill]

Form is just one thing. Dont hate the player.

[Anatomize]

My player evaluations are usually pretty accurate.. Meyers Leonard is going to be a heck of an NBA player, but I wouldn't venture to say he's going to be better than Anthony Davis; Valanciunas on the other hand is a possibility.

Also, you guys are dumb, we all know Mufasa was talking about James Johnsson not James Johnson. The 3 pt shooting PF that never made it.

[RMJ]

Jonas had 5 rebounds and played 9 minutes in the 1st qtr, playing not to bad defence but has had 2 turnovers