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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#401 » by lakerz12 » Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:24 am

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lakerz12 wrote:Wrong, I do know. The only logical explanation for the creation of the universe is an outside, independent, self-sustaining source.

According to the first law of thermodynamics, energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred.

Therefore, if the universe had a beginning (which we all agree), it would require a superNATURAL source capable of creating the energy.

Taking more steps and reaching "god" or "God" is another story. Don't project your fears of a creator and biases against religions onto this discussion.

What, besides an outside, self sustaining source, could have created the universe/energy?


How do you know an outside source is even needed? What makes you think the universe isn't self-contained?

Regardless, go and collect your Nobel prize. Your arguments are on a level no scientist has considered in the last 50 years.

Come on man, you know we need a superNATURAL element to explain it!

He got you with science!Image


By its very definition, natural science has no explanation for the creation of energy (thermodynamics law #1: energy cannot be created or destroyed).
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Post#402 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:24 am

Inigo_Montoya wrote:wow. Have you actually researched any of the nonsense that you post?


You are just uninformed on these topics. That's all. Yes, I have.

You really just don't know :D
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Post#403 » by Ayt » Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:24 am

peja drobnjak wrote:
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peja drobnjak wrote:friends don't let friends turn into bourgie liberal democrats


I didn't know conservatives believed in friendship

no i don't call myself a conservative. i'm actually of the somewhat serious opinion that gay marriage in america especially is a ploy by the ruling class and urban elites to (perhaps even intentionally) hurt worker and poor solidarity and cause racial division

i'm fine with in canada practically because the sentiment i dislike is already so entrenched into the population it doesn't really do anything to anybody except cause the conservatives to grumble internally


So what is your sociological theory on homosexuality amongst the Greeks?
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Post#404 » by Ayt » Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:26 am

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You should go tell that to the homosexuals in the military and a few MMA fighters who are homosexuals.


But when they are in bed, they love to be treated like a woman.

So they are not legit.


Have you spent a lot of time thinking about how gay men behave in bed?
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Post#405 » by Inigo_Montoya » Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:27 am

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Inigo_Montoya wrote:wow. Have you actually researched any of the nonsense that you post?


You are just uninformed on these topics. That's all. Yes, I have.

You really just don't know :D

Can you post some peer reviewed papers from the 1980s and up that support your posts?
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Post#406 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:27 am

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Inigo_Montoya wrote:wow. Have you actually researched any of the nonsense that you post?


You are just uninformed on these topics. That's all. Yes, I have.

You really just don't know :D

Can you post some peer reviewed papers from the 1980s and up that support your posts?


What did you want me to support?
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Re: Magic Under Fire For Donation Which Opposes Gay Marriage 

Post#407 » by LOJ » Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:28 am

Wone wrote:Whatever is an atrocity to God I'm against.


I waited for you to post in this thread and this is all you give me? I am dissapoint

Dennis 37 wrote:I'll start with effeminate which is often highlighted as a type of gay person. The rest you can google yourself, or I'll get back to you tomorrow as it is late here in the east.

Keep in mind this is originally a Greek text. The Greek word translated “effeminate” in verse 9 is quite broad. The word is malakoi, and it literally means “soft.” So Paul is saying “soft people” will not inherit the kingdom of God.

Dale B. Martin, Arsenokoitês and Malakos: Meaning and Consequences (Source: Biblical Ethics and Homosexuality: Listening to Scripture edited by Robert L. Brawley; Westminster John Knox Press, Louisville Kentucky, 1996), page 124. Nissinen also offers “frailty of body or character, illness, sentimentality, or moral weakness” as other possibilities for the meaning of this word in other contexts (page 117).
This common Greek word had different connotations depending on the context in which it was used. In terms of morality, it generally referred to something like laziness, degeneracy, decadence, or lack of courage. (See note 2.) The connotation was of being “soft like a woman” or like the delicate expensive fabrics worn by rich men. In the patriarchal culture of the time, women were thought to be weaker than men, more fearful, more vulnerable, and more vain. Thus, men who ate too much, liked expensive things, were lazy, or liked to dress well were considered “soft like a woman.” Although this type of misogynistic thinking is intolerable in our modern society, it was common in ancient times and explains why the King James Version translated malakoi as “effeminate."

While I will get to the other points tomorrow, the point is that the translators of the Greek to King James version were no more tolerant of gays than the translators of the ancient Hebrew to Leviticus were.

What I do know is in no translation of the four most important books of the bible does Jesus say anything about homosexuality. Nothing.

One should be able to identify a Christian through his compassion and charity, not by what he says.


Oh this is another one of my favorites, the "it wasn't translated right" people. Bending anything and everything to continue to support that tunnel vision.
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Post#408 » by AVolumeScorer » Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:29 am

StrengthNHonor, when you look for a women and try to marry one, are you going to tell her "I'll make you my bitch in the bed baby"?Will that make you more of a man than, a gay man?Did LeBron James give it in the ass to KG, therefore making himself the alphamale?

Seriously though that LeBron comparison is a strong contender for POTY
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Post#409 » by Dennis 37 » Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:29 am

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Why did we get the bad storm on Tuesday?!?!? Because Gyro had a tummy ache!

You want Christians to support Gays and same-sex marriage but yet you mock their beliefs ?

these type of posts should be moderated and filtered out.


I mock all moronic, unsupported beliefs equally.

And, frankly, I don't think I've met a single true Christian when it comes to actually living up to what is in the Bible. All I see is 99% lip service. As a non-believer, it is pathetic.


As a Christian I tell you, It is hard. The type of Christianity that too many are stuck in is the righteous I've just gotta tell you you're a sinner stage. It is tough to get through that stage. My pastor says some never get through it. The stage a Christian wants to get to is when others recognize him for his compassionate and charitable deeds and not what comes out of his mouth.
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Post#410 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:31 am

AVolumeScorer wrote:StrengthNHonor, when you look for a women and try to marry one, are you going to tell her "I'll make you my bitch in the bed baby"?Will that make you more of a man than, a gay man?Did LeBron James give it in the ass to KG, therefore making himself the alphamale?


Do you have a problem with alpha male mindsets? It's ok, bro. :lol:

Yes, that is exactly what LeBron did to KG in game 6. NO LUBE.
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Post#411 » by AVolumeScorer » Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:31 am

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AVolumeScorer wrote:StrengthNHonor, when you look for a women and try to marry one, are you going to tell her "I'll make you my bitch in the bed baby"?Will that make you more of a man than, a gay man?Did LeBron James give it in the ass to KG, therefore making himself the alphamale?


Do you have a problem with alpha male mindsets? It's ok, bro. :lol:

Yes, that is exactly what LeBron did to KG in game 6. NO LUBE.

That post was a joke actually considering I just stopped laughing over the LeBron comparison. I'll be nominating that in any POTY thread
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Post#412 » by rottenzombie » Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:32 am

StrengthNHonor wrote:
AVolumeScorer wrote:StrengthNHonor, when you look for a women and try to marry one, are you going to tell her "I'll make you my bitch in the bed baby"?Will that make you more of a man than, a gay man?Did LeBron James give it in the ass to KG, therefore making himself the alphamale?


Do you have a problem with alpha male mindsets? It's ok, bro. :lol:

Yes, that is exactly what LeBron did to KG in game 6. NO LUBE.


Quote-worthy reply right there.

Please keep going, StrengthNHonor. I, for one, ardently admire your fighting spirit.
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Post#413 » by Ayt » Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:32 am

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lakerz12 wrote:Wrong, I do know. The only logical explanation for the creation of the universe is an outside, independent, self-sustaining source.

According to the first law of thermodynamics, energy cannot be created or destroyed, only transferred.

Therefore, if the universe had a beginning (which we all agree), it would require a superNATURAL source capable of creating the energy.

Taking more steps and reaching "god" or "God" is another story. Don't project your fears of a creator and biases against religions onto this discussion.

What, besides an outside, self sustaining source, could have created the universe/energy?


How do you know an outside source is even needed?

Regardless, go and collect your Nobel prize. Your arguments are on a level no scientist has considered in the last 50 years.


So you admit you have no answer to my question?

How do I know an outside source is even needed--

The only alternative is the creation of something from nothing.

Is something coming from nothing logical?

Collect a nobel prize?

Actually, thousands of scientists have already stated the same thing for centuries.

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/cosmo ... -argument/


Of course! How the hell am I supposed to know! I'm a single, squishy little being on a little rock floating in space amongst billions and billions of other rocks and you want me to explain how/why we got here? You are god damned right I don't know, and neither do you. It is remarkable that we know as much as we do. The question of what became before the universe could very likely be unanswerable for humanity even if we are given billions of years to try to figure it out because we may simply have no perspective on such a question given that we are a part of the universe and (likely) have no access to anything beyond that realm.

The "something from nothing" argument gets you nowhere because the same argument applies to whatever solution you propose.

But Ayt! How can something come from nothing?!?!? I propose a God that comes from nothing as the solution! :lol:
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Post#414 » by Dupp » Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:32 am

StrengthNHonor wrote:
AVolumeScorer wrote:StrengthNHonor, when you look for a women and try to marry one, are you going to tell her "I'll make you my bitch in the bed baby"?Will that make you more of a man than, a gay man?Did LeBron James give it in the ass to KG, therefore making himself the alphamale?


Do you have a problem with alpha male mindsets? It's ok, bro. :lol:

Yes, that is exactly what LeBron did to KG in game 6. NO LUBE.



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Post#415 » by JunkYardSubs » Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:32 am

StrengthNHonor wrote:
AVolumeScorer wrote:StrengthNHonor, when you look for a women and try to marry one, are you going to tell her "I'll make you my bitch in the bed baby"?Will that make you more of a man than, a gay man?Did LeBron James give it in the ass to KG, therefore making himself the alphamale?


Do you have a problem with alpha male mindsets?

Yes
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Post#416 » by AVolumeScorer » Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:33 am

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AVolumeScorer wrote:StrengthNHonor, when you look for a women and try to marry one, are you going to tell her "I'll make you my bitch in the bed baby"?Will that make you more of a man than, a gay man?Did LeBron James give it in the ass to KG, therefore making himself the alphamale?


Do you have a problem with alpha male mindsets? It's ok, bro. :lol:

Yes, that is exactly what LeBron did to KG in game 6. NO LUBE.


Quote-worthy reply right there.

Please keep going, StrengthNHonor. I, for one, ardently admire your fighting spirit.

You could full this entire forums sig with posts from him in this thread, I know he's trolling but he's doing a damn good job
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Post#417 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:33 am

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StrengthNHonor wrote:
AVolumeScorer wrote:StrengthNHonor, when you look for a women and try to marry one, are you going to tell her "I'll make you my bitch in the bed baby"?Will that make you more of a man than, a gay man?Did LeBron James give it in the ass to KG, therefore making himself the alphamale?


Do you have a problem with alpha male mindsets? It's ok, bro. :lol:

Yes, that is exactly what LeBron did to KG in game 6. NO LUBE.

That post was a joke actually considering I just stopped laughing over the LeBron comparison. I'll be nominating that in any POTY thread

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Post#418 » by LOJ » Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:33 am

Dennis 37 wrote:As a Christian I tell you, It is hard. The type of Christianity that too many are stuck in is the righteous I've just gotta tell you you're a sinner stage. It is tough to get through that stage. My pastor says some never get through it. The stage a Christian wants to get to is when others recognize him for his compassionate and charitable deeds and not what comes out of his mouth.


Not what comes out of the mouth eh? Tell your pastor to read more scripture.

Matthew 15:18

"But whatever goes out of the mouth comes from within, and that's what makes a person unclean."

But let me guess, it wasn't translated right, correct?
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Post#419 » by rottenzombie » Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:34 am

AVolumeScorer wrote:You could full this entire forums sig with posts from him in this thread, I know he's trolling but he's doing a damn good job


I really wish he is not trolling though.

I would love the opportunity to observe someone who truly believe the things he said. It is not everyday you get to study people like that without risking personal safety.
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Post#420 » by Grumpy Heat Fan » Tue Aug 7, 2012 6:35 am

JunkYardSubs wrote:
StrengthNHonor wrote:
AVolumeScorer wrote:StrengthNHonor, when you look for a women and try to marry one, are you going to tell her "I'll make you my bitch in the bed baby"?Will that make you more of a man than, a gay man?Did LeBron James give it in the ass to KG, therefore making himself the alphamale?


Do you have a problem with alpha male mindsets?

Yes


Why is that?

All the great men have them. Except, of course, for the spiritual great men, like Ghandi, MLK, etc...
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