Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLV "Re-Building" Edition)

OrlandoMajinBuu · Post #541 » by **OrlandoMajinBuu** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:49 am

@dsg2021

OrlandoMajinBuu · Post #542 » by **OrlandoMajinBuu** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:49 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dbd1mP8yYQw[/youtube]

OrlandoMajinBuu · Post #543 » by **OrlandoMajinBuu** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:52 am

How does Michael Jackson pick his nose?

From a catalogue.

:lol:

TDJacksonville · Post #544 » by **TDJacksonville** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:57 am

ChildishGambino wrote:TD never go by NBA.com they never update stuff like that......Draft Express measurements come straight from the actual combine they had last year....so last year he was listed 6'11.75 260lbs so he's fine man.....

so ur also saying that Wikipedia is wrong as well as espn. CBS Sports must be wrong according to.

theres more places saying hes 240 than 260 plus Id say its entirely possible he lost 19.5 pounds between the Combine and playing in the NBA.

NickAnderson · Post #545 » by **NickAnderson** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:59 am

Gambino i bet your period button is all kinds of f*cked up.

ChildishGambino · Post #546 » by **ChildishGambino** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:03 am

TDJacksonville wrote:
ChildishGambino wrote:TD never go by NBA.com they never update stuff like that......Draft Express measurements come straight from the actual combine they had last year....so last year he was listed 6'11.75 260lbs so he's fine man.....

so ur also saying that Wikipedia is wrong as well as espn. CBS Sports must be wrong according to.

theres more places saying hes 240 than 260 plus Id say its entirely possible he lost 19.5 pounds between the Combine and playing in the NBA.

it's also possible that those other sites got their information from NBA.com which was wrong in the first place....either way we'll see soon enough when Training camp starts.....

ChildishGambino · Post #547 » by **ChildishGambino** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:03 am

NickAnderson wrote:Gambino i bet your period button is all kinds of f*cked up.

naw son that's just how i roll

TDJacksonville · Post #548 » by **TDJacksonville** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 6:22 am

ChildishGambino wrote:
TDJacksonville wrote:
ChildishGambino wrote:TD never go by NBA.com they never update stuff like that......Draft Express measurements come straight from the actual combine they had last year....so last year he was listed 6'11.75 260lbs so he's fine man.....

so ur also saying that Wikipedia is wrong as well as espn. CBS Sports must be wrong according to.

theres more places saying hes 240 than 260 plus Id say its entirely possible he lost 19.5 pounds between the Combine and playing in the NBA.

it's also possible that those other sites got their information from NBA.com which was wrong in the first place....either way we'll see soon enough when Training camp starts.....

Stats LLC has him Listed at 6 foot 10 240 :lol:

and according to 82 games when he Plays PF hes Much better. 22.0 per @ PF vs 15.7 per @ C.

dsg2021 · Post #549 » by **dsg2021** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:00 am

OrlandoMajinBuu wrote:@dsg2021

Did you see the joke an ESPN writer tweeted about Otis and Hennigan? I thought it was hilarious, like what if Otis had the sense of humor to actually do that haha.
I forgot who tweeted it, but I found the joke from another site:

“One new (GM of his team, Hennigan,) found on his desk two letters from his predecessor, (Otis), numbered 1 and 2 and to be opened in the case of the first emergency and the second.

Well, the first emergency happened.

The new leader opened the first envelope and the letter said, “Blame it all on me.” He did and his people bought it. Life went on.

A year later though, another emergency hit. He opened the second envelope and the letter said, “Now sit down and write two letters.”

MitchellUK · Post #550 » by **MitchellUK** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:18 am

VGOSWAMI wrote:We got guys stat padding in here

Who knew Ryan Anderson posted on RealGM?

bigmoe1952 · Post #551 » by **bigmoe1952** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:27 am

Nyce_1 wrote:
bigdogdylan5 wrote:
Nyce_1 wrote:Rob Henningan's an unbelievable executive and will be in the league for a long time."

- Daryl Morey

Fake or real?

This is a real quote I got from a Houston Rockets forum and it was said by Morey during a radio interview on Friday. He said the package was great for us and Rob will be an unbelievable exec for us and will be around a while.

They did their diligence and kept searching for something they liked more. They liked the trade more than anything we could offer. I promise you Rob knows what he's doing. People will feel over time he is a great exec.

Serious love for Rob from Morey AND Kupchak. If other GMs are praising ours, how can anyone talk smack about him?[/quote]

I do not think it is a vote of confidence when other GM's compliment Hennigan. I mean after all, they have to do business with the guy. How much mileage do you think they would get out of denigrating Hennigan and then having to negotiate with him? It's called exercising some "diplomacy." I am sure privately Morey and Kupchak are laughing their as*es off. They are well aware we got screwed royally on the trade but for obvious reasons, can not say it publicly. There is a clear motivation here for the praise for Hennigan. However, I did not see a clear motive in the report that said the Spurs were not high on Hennigan and thought he should pursue other avenues of employment.

Hennigan got outmaneuvered and outsmarted in this trade. It is relevant to keep that in mind moving forward. Like CVMagic said in an earlier post, we DID NOT even get a lottery pick in the draft or a player who was formerly a lottery pick in the draft for one of the best players in the NBA. I do not care what kind of excuses you come up with. That is simply inexcusable.

Now I understand moving forward. Nothing can be done about it now. But it does make me wonder about future moves Hennigan makes. That is why it will remain relevant. Not trying to beat a dead horse. But Hennigan better somehow make a silk purse out of a sows ear by turning these assets we did receive in this trade into something good or we will be wondering in the mediocrity desert for quite some time.

GswSucks4Ever · Post #552 » by **GswSucks4Ever** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:28 am

Magic franchise is trolling the league, if we go down in flames, everyone else goes down with us!

ChildishGambino · Post #553 » by **ChildishGambino** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:33 am

imo we would have been in mediocrity if we took the other "deals" personally i'm indifferent about the trade.....personally i would of liked to wait a bit longer but i guess Rob and Alex felt it was the right time.....for me i can't really be angry at the deal if i don't know what the other deals were....i mean the real deal not the too good to be true deal that you see in reports.....

94_MagicFan · Post #554 » by **94_MagicFan** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 7:42 am

Our actual lineup

Nelson
Redick/afflalo/Q
Harkless/Harper/eyenga/Hedo
Davis/Nicholson/Harrington
Vucevic/O'quinn/ayon/mcroberts

Q Hedo won't see no more minutes I see Harrington and q getting moved for a backup pg

MitchellUK · Post #555 » by **MitchellUK** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:11 am

I'd like to see us give a camp invite to Johnny Flynn. I'm not particularly enamoured with him, but I'd see it as a low risk, high reward situation. Look at someone like Chauncey Billups, who battled injuries and struggled to learn to run an NBA offense, and had Boston, Toronto and Denver all give up on him before he'd even finished his rookie deal. He landed in Minny, who gave him a chance, showed some patience and nurtured him and he became a decent point guard. A couple of years under Larry Brown in Detroit and he became on of the best in the league at his position.

If we gave him a chance on a cheap deal and he turned into the Minnesota version of Billups, who put up 12 and 5 in 28 minutes, that would be a steal.

94_MagicFan · Post #556 » by **94_MagicFan** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 8:23 am

Flynn on a 1.5 one year deal would be fine and ish on a two year 2 mil deal will do we just need to rid some of our contracts

Jiwol · Post #557 » by **Jiwol** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 10:15 am

94_MagicFan wrote:Our actual lineup

Nelson
Redick/afflalo/Q
Harkless/Harper/eyenga/Hedo
Davis/Nicholson/Harrington
Vucevic/O'quinn/ayon/mcroberts

Well, I view Q as a SF and Harper and McRoberts as a PF, which leaves as incredebly thin on guards positions.

We need to sign back-up PG and I'd like to see Liggins in Magic uni next year (any update on this one?!). I hope Al is flipped to some other team, Q is cut or traded and (pipe dream I guess) Hedo is shown the door somehow.

Nelson / Smith
Afflalo / Redick / Liggins
Harkless / Eyenga
Nicholson / McRoberts / Ayon / Harper
Davis / Vucevic / O'Quinn

td3 · Post #558 » by **td3** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:05 am

Jiwol wrote:
94_MagicFan wrote:Our actual lineup

Nelson
Redick/afflalo/Q
Harkless/Harper/eyenga/Hedo
Davis/Nicholson/Harrington
Vucevic/O'quinn/ayon/mcroberts

Well, I view Q as a SF and Harper and McRoberts as a PF, which leaves as incredebly thin on guards positions.

We need to sign back-up PG and I'd like to see Liggins in Magic uni next year (any update on this one?!). I hope Al is flipped to some other team, Q is cut or traded and (pipe dream I guess) Hedo is shown the door somehow.

Nelson / Smith
Afflalo / Redick / Liggins
Harkless / Eyenga
Nicholson / McRoberts / Ayon / Harper
Davis / Vucevic / O'Quinn

I can't find it right now, but I thought I read somewhere that LIggins played point guard in high school; anyone else remember this? Is Liggins a possible combo-guard?

tiderulz · Post #559 » by **tiderulz** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:15 am

td3 wrote:
Jiwol wrote:
94_MagicFan wrote:Our actual lineup

Nelson
Redick/afflalo/Q
Harkless/Harper/eyenga/Hedo
Davis/Nicholson/Harrington
Vucevic/O'quinn/ayon/mcroberts

Well, I view Q as a SF and Harper and McRoberts as a PF, which leaves as incredebly thin on guards positions.

We need to sign back-up PG and I'd like to see Liggins in Magic uni next year (any update on this one?!). I hope Al is flipped to some other team, Q is cut or traded and (pipe dream I guess) Hedo is shown the door somehow.

Nelson / Smith
Afflalo / Redick / Liggins
Harkless / Eyenga
Nicholson / McRoberts / Ayon / Harper
Davis / Vucevic / O'Quinn

I can't find it right now, but I thought I read somewhere that LIggins played point guard in high school; anyone else remember this? Is Liggins a possible combo-guard?

no he isnt, he doesnt have the handles for it.

Post #560 » by **Howard Mass** » Mon Aug 13, 2012 11:28 am

The Magic have 15 guaranteed contracts and only one PG. Ish Smith is coming to camp but they need one more and to sched two deals.

I can obviously see Hennigan trying to move Al Harrington, Quentin Richardson and maybe Josh McRoberts and the later might have the most value as a big/expiring.

Some moves will definitely be made to pair down this roster.