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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLVI "Re-Building" Edition)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLVI 

Post#241 » by j_n » Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:07 pm

londoncollin wrote:I don't get why Bulls fans are so desperate to get rid of Rip. This year he makes five million. Next year he's has a team option, so he's basically an expiring.

There's no way they give up their best pick since getting Rose to get rid of a guy who's expiring.

With the new CBA the diffrence between being a tax paying team and one who isnt is hugh.
Rip isnt going to make much money but that 5 million is exactly the amount that would put them under the tax so its very valuable for them, not to mention they would get a TPE that they will be able to use in the future.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLVI 

Post#242 » by londoncollin » Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:31 pm

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londoncollin wrote:I don't get why Bulls fans are so desperate to get rid of Rip. This year he makes five million. Next year he's has a team option, so he's basically an expiring.

There's no way they give up their best pick since getting Rose to get rid of a guy who's expiring.

With the new CBA the diffrence between being a tax paying team and one who isnt is hugh.
Rip isnt going to make much money but that 5 million is exactly the amount that would put them under the tax so its very valuable for them, not to mention they would get a TPE that they will be able to use in the future.

I get the tax thing, but would it be worth it for one year? I know the Bulls owner is cheap, but if I was him I'd rather pay tax for a year and be able to draft a potential number 2 for Rose.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLVI 

Post#243 » by RickB-Orlando » Fri Aug 17, 2012 5:54 pm

londoncollin wrote:
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londoncollin wrote:I don't get why Bulls fans are so desperate to get rid of Rip. This year he makes five million. Next year he's has a team option, so he's basically an expiring.

There's no way they give up their best pick since getting Rose to get rid of a guy who's expiring.

With the new CBA the diffrence between being a tax paying team and one who isnt is hugh.
Rip isnt going to make much money but that 5 million is exactly the amount that would put them under the tax so its very valuable for them, not to mention they would get a TPE that they will be able to use in the future.

I get the tax thing, but would it be worth it for one year? I know the Bulls owner is cheap, but if I was him I'd rather pay tax for a year and be able to draft a potential number 2 for Rose.


That's an 11.5 million dollar hit. I don't care how cheap or wealthy you are, that isn't pocket change.

But I suspect Vilanueava is a more reasonable target personally, as someone else said he's in the doghouse, and it's 16 Million in salary over the next two years, plus nearly ten million in taxes. That's 25 million back in Reinsdorf's pocket.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLVI 

Post#244 » by BadMofoPimp » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:00 pm

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That's an 11.5 million dollar hit. I don't care how cheap or wealthy you are, that isn't pocket change.

But I suspect Vilanueava is a more reasonable target personally, as someone else said he's in the doghouse, and it's 16 Million in salary over the next two years, plus nearly ten million in taxes. That's 25 million back in Reinsdorf's pocket.


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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLVI 

Post#245 » by londoncollin » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:12 pm

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j_n wrote:I get the tax thing, but would it be worth it for one year? I know the Bulls owner is cheap, but if I was him I'd rather pay tax for a year and be able to draft a potential number 2 for Rose.


That's an 11.5 million dollar hit. I don't care how cheap or wealthy you are, that isn't pocket change.

But I suspect Vilanueava is a more reasonable target personally, as someone else said he's in the doghouse, and it's 16 Million in salary over the next two years, plus nearly ten million in taxes. That's 25 million back in Reinsdorf's pocket.

That's like a month of Rose jersey sales. They should be fine.
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Post#246 » by OrlandoMajinBuu » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:14 pm

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Post#247 » by Mule Tears » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:30 pm

Yeah right Alex. In order for a quick rebuild, that would require making some trades and moves that dont involve the Magic getting hosed.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLVI 

Post#248 » by ChildishGambino » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:32 pm

OrlandoMajinBuu wrote:
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Post#249 » by OrlandoMajinBuu » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:33 pm

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Post#250 » by Darth Magic » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:42 pm

By the 2014 season the Magic will be top 3 in the east an Hennigan will win Exec of the year. BOOK IT!
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Post#251 » by SnuggLes__ » Fri Aug 17, 2012 6:46 pm

Darth Magic wrote:By the 2014 season the Magic will be top 3 in the east an Hennigan will win Exec of the year. BOOK IT!


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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLVI 

Post#252 » by InFlames » Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:02 pm

Darth Magic wrote:By the 2014 season the Magic will be top 3 in the east an Hennigan will win Exec of the year. BOOK IT!


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Post#254 » by BadMofoPimp » Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:04 pm

By the 2014 season the Magic will be the bottom 3 in the east an Hennigan will be compared to Otis constantly. BOOK IT!

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Post#255 » by RYgoBOOM » Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:04 pm

SnuggLes__ wrote:
Darth Magic wrote:By the 2014 season the Magic will be top 3 in the east an Hennigan will win Exec of the year. BOOK IT!


I was going to post something but I lost all train of thought...

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Post#256 » by BadMofoPimp » Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:06 pm

Mule Tears wrote:Yeah right Alex. In order for a quick rebuild, that would require making some trades and moves that dont involve the Magic getting hosed.


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Post#257 » by Last Guardian » Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:18 pm

We will be the 8th seed and we will win the NBA championship! Who's with me?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLVI 

Post#258 » by RickB-Orlando » Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:29 pm

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OrlandoMajinBuu wrote:
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"Quick" is no doubt relative in this circumstance. It will be Quick compared to how long the Clips took to do it.
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Post#259 » by TDJacksonville » Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:30 pm

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. XLVI 

Post#260 » by j_n » Fri Aug 17, 2012 7:46 pm

londoncollin wrote:
j_n wrote:
londoncollin wrote:I don't get why Bulls fans are so desperate to get rid of Rip. This year he makes five million. Next year he's has a team option, so he's basically an expiring.

There's no way they give up their best pick since getting Rose to get rid of a guy who's expiring.

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I get the tax thing, but would it be worth it for one year? I know the Bulls owner is cheap, but if I was him I'd rather pay tax for a year and be able to draft a potential number 2 for Rose.

The dont have to give us this year's pick, the could send us their 2014 pick.

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