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sChOlaRlY_Magi wrote:thelead wrote:mhectorgato wrote:Correct me if I am wrong ... but didn't the Clips have a relatively stingy owner until just recently?
Correct but tell me, who are the magic going to sign that will turn us into a championship contender quickly? I don't see any realistic options...
I wasn't aware of that either... I thought Sterling still owned the Clips.
Can anyone tell me who the. ew owner is?
OrlandoMajinBuu wrote:JarethCutestory wrote:Anthony Parker, who retired after nine distinguished NBA seasons, is joining the Orlando Magic as a scout, league sources tell Y!
I smell Wiggins!!! He's a big fan of Wiggins.
thelead wrote:OrlandoMajinBuu wrote:JarethCutestory wrote:Anthony Parker, who retired after nine distinguished NBA seasons, is joining the Orlando Magic as a scout, league sources tell Y!
I smell Wiggins!!! He's a big fan of Wiggins.
That doesn't matter. Whoever gets the #1 pick in 2014 (or 2015 if he stays in high school for his senior year) will be drafting Wiggins.
SpursFan4Life wrote:Alright...enough of the trade bashing...its over. So, here's what I would do if I were the Magic. If I end up in the lottery..say 5-8...I trade down. I give up...say the 8th pick and the late round 1st from Philly or LA and get two mid picks like the 11th and 14th. I think take Caldwell-Pope and Ryan Harrow. I then try and get back into the 1st round trading future picks and grab Deing. I now have a young nucleus of Harrow/Pope/Harkless/Deing that can grow together and very talented and go from there to dolidify a bench. Its how we did it in San Antonio and how they did it in Oklahoma City.You have to get guys who can grow together and grab them hopefully in the same draft or the very next year.
kookie_819 wrote:SpursFan4Life wrote:Alright...enough of the trade bashing...its over. So, here's what I would do if I were the Magic. If I end up in the lottery..say 5-8...I trade down. I give up...say the 8th pick and the late round 1st from Philly or LA and get two mid picks like the 11th and 14th. I think take Caldwell-Pope and Ryan Harrow. I then try and get back into the 1st round trading future picks and grab Deing. I now have a young nucleus of Harrow/Pope/Harkless/Deing that can grow together and very talented and go from there to dolidify a bench. Its how we did it in San Antonio and how they did it in Oklahoma City.You have to get guys who can grow together and grab them hopefully in the same draft or the very next year.
It's what SA and OKC did AFTER they drafted their franchise guy. That's what we need to get first: A franchise player with a high enough character willing to stay with a small market team, a la Tim Duncan and Kevin Durant, then building our team around him/them.
And besides, they don't even have the same model. SA built a dynasty around Duncan by extensively scouting the International market and small colleges and developing them into their system. OKC built theirs through consecutive top 5 picks and drafting well with those picks, with a mix of good drafting in the late 1st round (Ibaka) and acquisitions of solid, defensive minded players (Perkins, Sefolosha).
Hopefully, our model for rebuilding will be a mix of both... but either way, the first thing on the agenda is a franchise player. In this league, you simply can't win with a mixture of mid-to-late first rounders. I'm praying that will be someone like Wiggins or Jabari Parker.
rcklsscognition wrote:ESPN player rankings going up now. We have 6 Magic/Ex-Magic in the worst bunch.
#465- Liggins
#449- Harper
#427- O'Quinn
#426- Orton (not on Magic)
#423- Ish
#411- Eyenga
Do you think the FO values Harper and Liggins, or are we making them out to be better than they really are?
AddiFB wrote:rcklsscognition wrote:ESPN player rankings going up now. We have 6 Magic/Ex-Magic in the worst bunch.
#465- Liggins
#449- Harper
#427- O'Quinn
#426- Orton (not on Magic)
#423- Ish
#411- Eyenga
Do you think the FO values Harper and Liggins, or are we making them out to be better than they really are?
Liggins, Harper and Ish are near the bottom because they haven't seen the floor much. At least Harper and Liggins. Hard to gauge their rank on that small of a sample. Ish is young and needs to get a chance.
SpursFan4Life wrote:I should have explained. I agree. Thats why I said if the Magic get the 5-8 pick or worse. Obviously if they get the 1,2 or 3 pick...dont trade down. Take Muhommad or Noel.
Larry Ridley@mrlarryridley
Caught up with #Magic CEO Alex Martins, you got to hear his message to fans, "will be a quick rebuild" watch at 6,11 on @WESH #Orlando #NBA
rcklsscognition wrote:AddiFB wrote:rcklsscognition wrote:ESPN player rankings going up now. We have 6 Magic/Ex-Magic in the worst bunch.
#465- Liggins
#449- Harper
#427- O'Quinn
#426- Orton (not on Magic)
#423- Ish
#411- Eyenga
Do you think the FO values Harper and Liggins, or are we making them out to be better than they really are?
Liggins, Harper and Ish are near the bottom because they haven't seen the floor much. At least Harper and Liggins. Hard to gauge their rank on that small of a sample. Ish is young and needs to get a chance.
Good news is Nicholson, Vucevic, and Harkless aren't on the list yet, though I'd think they both show up on the next set of 100. Wonder who is higher or our rookies. I guess Vucevic.
btw, how is Duhon not in the worst list?
Bensational wrote:Larry Ridley@mrlarryridley
Caught up with #Magic CEO Alex Martins, you got to hear his message to fans, "will be a quick rebuild" watch at 6,11 on @WESH #Orlando #NBA
For a "quick" rebuild, I'd imagine that means that the Magic have their eye on some ready established talent, which they plan to chase as the franchise player/centerpiece of the team. someone available in the next free agency or two. you can't rely on landing a franchise caliber player through the draft in a short amount of time - too many variables. what you can rely on is targeting ready-now talent.
i think their plan will be heavily based upon loading up on efficiently paid talent as a supporting cast for 1-2 stars, and BPA talent in the draft, with enough financial flexibility to chase a franchise talent.
my gut tells me that James Harden is our man.
Bensational wrote:Larry Ridley@mrlarryridley
Caught up with #Magic CEO Alex Martins, you got to hear his message to fans, "will be a quick rebuild" watch at 6,11 on @WESH #Orlando #NBA
For a "quick" rebuild, I'd imagine that means that the Magic have their eye on some ready established talent, which they plan to chase as the franchise player/centerpiece of the team. someone available in the next free agency or two. you can't rely on landing a franchise caliber player through the draft in a short amount of time - too many variables. what you can rely on is targeting ready-now talent.
i think their plan will be heavily based upon loading up on efficiently paid talent as a supporting cast for 1-2 stars, and BPA talent in the draft, with enough financial flexibility to chase a franchise talent.
my gut tells me that James Harden is our man.
recko321 wrote:Idk if this was posted but doesn't Chicago own charlottes 2012 unprotected 1st? TPE for rip + char 1st?
The Effect wrote:recko321 wrote:Idk if this was posted but doesn't Chicago own charlottes 2012 unprotected 1st? TPE for rip + char 1st?
It has been mentioned and im almost positive its top 12 protected, but even still i dont think they will be willing to give that up just to get out of a contract that expires at the end of the year
Chicago Bulls: Receives 2013 first-round pick (top-12 protected in 2013, top-10 in 2014, top-8 in 2015, unprotected in 2016) from the Charlotte Bobcats via the Tyrus Thomas trade on 2/18/10.
