Post#227 » by ComeBackRay34 » Sat Nov 17, 2012 8:21 pm
In the end, I think the Bogut-Ellis trade will be an even trade, but disappointing for the Bucks because they could have traded Bogut for something centered around either a youth/rebuild movement or a long-term player who fits better next to Jennings. The Bucks success of the trade will come from salary-relief and possibly one playoff run. I don't think Ellis stays past this year (hope he doesn't stay longer), and in the end, I think Udoh's impact will be minimal due to the amount of other PF's we have. On another team, who needed frontcourt help, he would have a bigger impact. Warriors got a center who can improve defense in any games he CAN play in and I think Barnes is a plus that came from that trade as well.
At this point, I think Ellis hasn’t impacted the Bucks too much so far as changing where we stand in the East. We should be a playoff team based on the fact that the East is pretty poorsome. This year will show if he makes this team better as far as record goes. Because so far, this is the Bucks record with Ellis against winning/losing teams.
2011-2012: Winning Teams= 1-8 Losing Teams= 11-1 Total=12-9 (Didn't play in 2 final losses against Phi/Bos)
2012-2013: Winning Teams= 2-2 Losing Teams= 3-0 Total=5-2
Total Record with Ellis: 17-11 (14-1 against losing teams. Milwaukee: We can't say that we're better than most, we're just not as bad as some)
For him to have a significant impact, I think the Bucks have to prove this year that they can beat good teams as well as bad teams. I think that how we play against teams from the West will be a good determinant for the Bucks this year. If we can’t beat the good teams, we looking to be slightly better than .500 with the same direction we had before the trade. And I think the direction (or lack-there-of) the Bucks took in the Bogut-Ellis trade still has me more upset than Ellis himself (although watching Ellis play at times can be maddening).
"Monta Ellis have it all" ~ from the Great One who's only difference from Wade is winning games, an all-star appearance, two championship rings, and two gold medals.