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Wizards open to trading Trevor Booker for veteran PG???

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Re: Wizards open to trading Trevor Booker for veteran PG??? 

Post#41 » by Nivek » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:26 pm

There's no PG the Wizards could get for Booker that's going to help with player development. That's not even how players develop. The development the Wizards players need is stuff they can work on in an empty gym, for the most part. This notion that the Wizards are a "veteran" PG or a John Wall from being good or from being better at player development -- it's delusion.
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Re: Wizards open to trading Trevor Booker for veteran PG??? 

Post#42 » by Jay81 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 8:44 pm

trading booker for a veteran point guard that might help us go from a 17-65 team to a 19-63 team is so Ernie
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Post#43 » by Upper Decker » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:19 pm

Last time the Wiz made a desperate mid-season trade for a PG EG sent out a 1st round pick + Daniels for Mike James and Javaris Crittenton. Glory Days!!!
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Post#44 » by WizardsWorld » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:42 pm

My deal is still: Crawford, Vesley, Ariza, Lotto protected 1st for D.Williams and Barea.

Gets us a young guy with potential to pair with Wall and Beal as our next generation big 3... and gets us a PG to handle biz until Wall is healthy.
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Post#45 » by closg00 » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:26 pm

Upper Decker wrote:Last time the Wiz made a desperate mid-season trade for a PG EG sent out a 1st round pick + Daniels for Mike James and Javaris Crittenton. Glory Days!!!


:lol:

:o Oh! I do fear a desperate Ernie Grunfeld trying to make trades
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Post#46 » by dangermouse » Tue Dec 18, 2012 11:46 pm

AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:
dangermouse wrote:I'd do Booker for Fredette.

Booker or Jan are the only guys I would trade for a PG right now, and Fredette is the only kind of PG i would trade for, young and still on their rookie deal.

There is no minutes for Booker AND Jan anyway.

I dont want a veteran that could possibly make us better. Not when we are tanking (again). If we were going to make a trade like that, it should have happened months ago.


I'm not getting the Jimmer Fredette thing. He's not a real PG, he's not a high assist guy, how is he the answer at PG?


Because he is probably the only guy thats available that fits the criteria.
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Re: Wizards open to trading Trevor Booker for veteran PG??? 

Post#47 » by AWIZZINGBULLET » Wed Dec 19, 2012 12:20 am

dangermouse wrote:
AWIZZINGBULLET wrote:
dangermouse wrote:I'd do Booker for Fredette.

Booker or Jan are the only guys I would trade for a PG right now, and Fredette is the only kind of PG i would trade for, young and still on their rookie deal.

There is no minutes for Booker AND Jan anyway.

I dont want a veteran that could possibly make us better. Not when we are tanking (again). If we were going to make a trade like that, it should have happened months ago.


I'm not getting the Jimmer Fredette thing. He's not a real PG, he's not a high assist guy, how is he the answer at PG?


Because he is probably the only guy thats available that fits the criteria.


He fits the criteria of Beal's backup.
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Re: Wizards open to trading Trevor Booker for veteran PG??? 

Post#48 » by nate33 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 1:19 am

Upper Decker wrote:Last time the Wiz made a desperate mid-season trade for a PG EG sent out a 1st round pick + Daniels for Mike James and Javaris Crittenton. Glory Days!!!

Sadly, most on this board like that trade.
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Post#49 » by AFM » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:23 am

Let's trade for Kyle Korver. He and Crawford can take the ball downcourt and shoot it from the half court logo each time.
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Post#50 » by montestewart » Wed Dec 19, 2012 4:49 am

nate33 wrote:
Upper Decker wrote:Last time the Wiz made a desperate mid-season trade for a PG EG sent out a 1st round pick + Daniels for Mike James and Javaris Crittenton. Glory Days!!!

Sadly, most on this board like that trade.

I remember people referring to Mike James as "the worst player in the league" and backing it up with various statistics. I guess some thought Crittenton was worth a late 1st (which turned out to be the 12th pick) not knowing his upside mean upside the head.
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Post#51 » by hands11 » Sat Feb 9, 2013 11:39 pm

With the tread deadline getting closer, will it happen.

These threads are so funny to read from the beginning.
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Post#52 » by Zonkerbl » Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:07 am

Do we have any glaring needs now?

We have Wall and Price at the PG. Price is decent enough.

We have Beal and Crawford at SG. Temple when Crawford's in the doghouse.

We have Webster/Ariza at SF.

We have Nene/Singleton/Booker/Ves at the four.

We have Okafor/Seraphin at Center.

Really a complete roster with no glaring weaknesses.

Now you have to start thinking about who to replace Okafor with in two years (maybe just resign him for a lower amount?) and Nene.
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Re: Wizards open to trading Trevor Booker for veteran PG??? 

Post#53 » by Floater » Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:11 am

We need another rebounding big man, especially for the future. I'm not giving (If I was the owner) Seraphin a big pay day to be our future center. Also, we can upgrade at the backup PG position and a creative scorer at the 3. Now, we can't get all of those needs filled but those are definitely some needs.
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Post#54 » by hands11 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 12:37 am

Zonkerbl wrote:Do we have any glaring needs now?

We have Wall and Price at the PG. Price is decent enough.

We have Beal and Crawford at SG. Temple when Crawford's in the doghouse.

We have Webster/Ariza at SF.

We have Nene/Singleton/Booker/Ves at the four.

We have Okafor/Seraphin at Center.

Really a complete roster with no glaring weaknesses.

Now you have to start thinking about who to replace Okafor with in two years (maybe just resign him for a lower amount?) and Nene.


Price is decent, but not sure decent enough.
Crawford can't be counted on as the back up SG. At least not on this team the way they use him. Not sure his style works for them.

But Temple as a back up defensive SG is looking interesting and he can play some PG. He just hasn't shown to be enough of a scorer yet though. If Webster is the back up scoring SG, that works. But if anything happens to Webster, they are screwed. Thats where having a player like Crawford helps to have in the mix. But not sure Crawford is what they want. But right now, he isn't expensive to keep.

That is where having a huge upgrade at back up PG can really help. Someone that not only is a back up PG but who can also play SG and score from there. God, that really sounds like Crawford if they would use him correctly.

I think they would rather have that player be a JJ Redick or Kirk. If not, they need to give Crawford a chance to be that and that starts by letting him back up at PG instead of Price.

But I have said that all year.

Basically, they need a flavor of Crawford that they like or they need to grow Crawford into that player. Price is alright but not good enough. He is a 3rd PG unless he can grow more.
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Post#55 » by nate33 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:30 pm

Zonkerbl wrote:Do we have any glaring needs now?

We have Wall and Price at the PG. Price is decent enough.

We have Beal and Crawford at SG. Temple when Crawford's in the doghouse.

We have Webster/Ariza at SF.

We have Nene/Singleton/Booker/Ves at the four.

We have Okafor/Seraphin at Center.

Really a complete roster with no glaring weaknesses.

Now you have to start thinking about who to replace Okafor with in two years (maybe just resign him for a lower amount?) and Nene.

I agree. We have no glaring needs. Certainly, we'd like everyone to be a bit better than they are now, but there is no gaping hole in the lineup where the addition of an average player would make a huge difference. I wish our backup PF position was a bit clearer. When healthy, Booker is the best of the lot, but he hasn't been healthy all year. His injury situation prevents him from being any kind of long term solution at backup PF. Hopefully, Singleton can put on a little more weight and continue to improve his jumper and become a full time stretch 4.
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Post#56 » by verbal8 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 4:39 pm

The team doesn't have any glaring weaknesses, but also no players other than Wall who seem to have even All-Star potential. It seems like a team that would top out at the 6th seed.
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Post#57 » by TheKingOfVa360 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 6:18 pm

verbal8 wrote:The team doesn't have any glaring weaknesses, but also no players other than Wall who seem to have even All-Star potential. It seems like a team that would top out at the 6th seed.



In the East Nene has All-Star potential
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Post#58 » by hands11 » Sun Feb 10, 2013 7:45 pm

verbal8 wrote:The team doesn't have any glaring weaknesses, but also no players other than Wall who seem to have even All-Star potential. It seems like a team that would top out at the 6th seed.


All Star potential ?

That is a big speculative category that doesn't really mean much.

What means more is being a top 3 or best in the league defensive team that has ways of scoring.

Wall is a fast break machine and can pass pretty well.
They have 3 point shooters in Webster, Trevor A, Beal and even Crawford. Plus Price and Martin sometimes.
They have post scoring in Nene, Kevin S and Okafor

The team has ways of scoring. Adding Beal back should help make that less of an issue if he can find that grove he had before the injury. It is easy to forget how awesome Beal was looking before the injury. He was a machine there for a stretch looking like a Wade/Ray Allen hybrid. He is 19 He shot .508 for the month of January from 3. He was driving and dunking :D Well the dunking is how he got hurt but he was getting more aggressive.

And as of late, Singleton has shown some game. We know Crawford can score and if he sticks around and makes it out of the basketball reprogramming machine I believe they are putting him in, he will give them some more scoring when they need it. But more then that, I think he will add another pesky defender that can jump the lanes and get out on the break where his driving skill and passing will pay off. I think that is the reprogramming they are trying to do. Turn him from a shooter to a defensive pest that steals the ball, runs the floor and shots up for corner three. No more pounding the ball and probing the defense. Not unless they put him in at PG.

Most the time, All Stars come from winning teams. Win first, then we can worry about who the All Stars are if that really matters. Last I checked, being an All Star doesn't add any wins to the win column but it does usually make you have to pay a premium for that player. I would rather them win a lot of games and have no All Stars. But when they keep winning more, here are you names.

Potential AS. Thats easy. Wall, Beal and Nene. Trevor A could show up on a All defensive team list as can Okafor. So could Wall actually. That is something you don't want to overlook. Championship caliber teams almost always have a player that was first team defensive with in the prior few years.

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