Michael Carter-Williams

[Cusefan03]

Great rebound for mcw after the tough usf game. Finished with 17 points on 6-13 fg, 2-6 from 3 and 3-3 ft's. Also recorded 6 rebounds, 6 assists, and 5 steals with only 1 to. He could of easily had a few more assists but Syracuse couldn't make anything tonight. Thought he finished well, made a couple tough layups and was 2-3 on floaters(1 was an and 1). Another subpar performance from deep but he did hit a huge 3 with the shot clock running down and cuse only up by 1 with around 2 minutes left. Played great defense also. Hopefully he can keep this up and continue to work on his jumper and finishing. Thats all thats holding him back right now.

[MalonesElbows]

His age and lack of a jump shot scare me. His high assist numbers are also marred by a very high turnover rate. Would not take in the lottery.

[Cusefan03]

His age and lack of a jump shot scare me. His high assist numbers are also marred by a very high turnover rate. Would not take in the lottery.

He was given the keys to the team after very little experience last year and is playing 35 mpg so theres going to be stupid plays that lead to turnovers. I think that will improve as the year goes on. I would't say he has no jumper either, by no means is it good but since his terrible 1-15 start hes 15-42 which is just over 35%. Thats at least respectable.His age is definitely a negative though

[princeofpalace]

How would you compare, Carter-Williams to Evan Turner, or to Jason Kidd, or to Rajon Rondo, or to Ricky Rubio?

[Cusefan03]

How would you compare, Carter-Williams to Evan Turner, or to Jason Kidd, or to Rajon Rondo, or to Ricky Rubio?

I dont really like the Turner comp, he scored light years better than Carter-Williams does in college but Carter-Williams is a better passer and ball handler. The comparisons to Kidd, Rondo, and Rubio are pretty accurate, they do everything well except for scoring and are big pg's. Its amazing watching someone 6' 6" struggle so much with finishing. He misses routine layups all the time but then hits on an extremely difficult shot. Its very frustrating to watch.

[ManualRam]

How would you compare, Carter-Williams to Evan Turner, or to Jason Kidd, or to Rajon Rondo, or to Ricky Rubio?

I dont really like the Turner comp, he scored light years better than Carter-Williams does in college but Carter-Williams is a better passer and ball handler. The comparisons to Kidd, Rondo, and Rubio are pretty accurate, they do everything well except for scoring and are big pg's. Its amazing watching someone 6' 6" struggle so much with finishing. He misses routine layups all the time but then hits on an extremely difficult shot. Its very frustrating to watch.

turner was not as quick as MCW, but he was the better ball-handler imo.

i think the reason why he misses so many layups is because he takes his momentum straight to the backboard. he doesn't slow down just enough to get off a softer shot at the rim. maybe he'll get that in time when he gets stronger and learns pacing. until he gets stronger, he'll need to try to master the floater/pull up game imo.

[Cusefan03]

How would you compare, Carter-Williams to Evan Turner, or to Jason Kidd, or to Rajon Rondo, or to Ricky Rubio?

I dont really like the Turner comp, he scored light years better than Carter-Williams does in college but Carter-Williams is a better passer and ball handler. The comparisons to Kidd, Rondo, and Rubio are pretty accurate, they do everything well except for scoring and are big pg's. Its amazing watching someone 6' 6" struggle so much with finishing. He misses routine layups all the time but then hits on an extremely difficult shot. Its very frustrating to watch.

turner was not as quick as MCW, but he was the better ball-handler imo.

i think the reason why he misses so many layups is because he takes his momentum straight to the backboard. he doesn't slow down just enough to get off a softer shot at the rim. maybe he'll get that in time when he gets stronger and learns pacing. until he gets stronger, he'll need to try to master the floater/pull up game imo.

Yeah this is why it might benefit him staying another year in college to work on this stuff and adding weight. There's about a zero percent chance this happens given him already being 21 which is a big negative imo. Plus hes almost definitely not the first pg taken if he stays with Andrew Harrison in next years draft. Why take mcw when you can have someone the same size with a better skill set who's 3-4 years younger.

[Geaux_Hawks]

He's been my favorite guard for the past 2 years. His bad shooting, missed lay ups, and blowing easy shots is an easy fix. Shooting is easy to work on. Being able to create those opportunities is the hard part, which he can do pretty good. He has majority of the tools needed to be a great PG in the league. He just has a few minor things to work on right now. At 21, he's better served leaving and working on those thing with better mentoring at the pro ranks..

[[RCG]]

I can't help but think his stock is going to drop into the late-lottery to early 20s range.

[mattg]

Well he does have legit concerns about him. He's a turnover machine and doesn't have a superb handle which could really limit him in the nba. Obviously he's thin and struggles to finish and whatnot. Also, a lot of people are in love with his steals/rebounds/block numbers, but then you have to account for him playing in that zone. A long guard like him should be racking those kinds of numbers up in that sort of situation. So it becomes a question of, is he really that good on that end of the floor, or is he just in a good situation?

[Dr Positivity]

Russ Smith is making himself some cash in this game

[princeofpalace]

MCW won the game for the Orange and he did it with his defense in crucial moments of the game. His offense wasn't pretty at all but I can't see how this game hurts him.

[[RCG]]

MCW won the game for the Orange and he did it with his defense in crucial moments of the game. His offense wasn't pretty at all but I can't see how this game hurts him.

He had more turnovers than assists. Orange won because Siva and Dieng combined to go 2-14.

[ManualRam]

Well he does have legit concerns about him. He's a turnover machine and doesn't have a superb handle which could really limit him in the nba. Obviously he's thin and struggles to finish and whatnot. Also, a lot of people are in love with his steals/rebounds/block numbers, but then you have to account for him playing in that zone. A long guard like him should be racking those kinds of numbers up in that sort of situation. So it becomes a question of, is he really that good on that end of the floor, or is he just in a good situation?

i think he can at least be a disruptive defender. the length is obvious, but he also has quick hands and looks to make plays defensively. he'll also have the advantage of being able to play off of his matchup, although that isn't always an advantage for PGs because of ball screens.

he came up big in the end but i do agree that his stock took a hit this game. he was bothered physically by russ smith, who's like 6' 170 soaking wet.

[princeofpalace]

MCW won the game for the Orange and he did it with his defense in crucial moments of the game. His offense wasn't pretty at all but I can't see how this game hurts him.

He had more turnovers than assists. Orange won because Siva and Dieng combined to go 2-14.

Did you even watch the game? Because MCW hit clutch FT at the end, forced TOs and came away with rebounds. He won that game for Syracuse. Lousville was leading up until the end despite the lousy shooting performances.

[Johnlac1]

Yeah, MCW was real careless in the first half, but he had a great second half and basically won the game for Syracuse in the last five minutes. (And one of those tos was from a slip on a wet spot.) Remember they were playing the no.1 team in the country. His outside shot is good and bad, but overall is form is pretty decent. He just has to work on locking it in. And he had two or three outstanding athletic plays including that steal and dunk. By the way, Phil Pressey had 10 tos against Florida today, and I still rate him as one of the top five pgs in the country.

[MalonesElbows]

DX is showing a wingspan of only 6'5" on MCW, I'm thinking this has to be an error. Players with alligator arms generally don't average 3 steals a game.

[Cusefan03]

Mcw may not have played great but that three and the steal were absolutely huge. Seems like he'll do whatever to win the game and while 8 to's is a ton it was his first game against Louisville's killer pressure and it was on the road against the number 1 team in the country. Also, 5 of the to's came in the first 5 minutes of the game.

[mattg]

Well he does have legit concerns about him. He's a turnover machine and doesn't have a superb handle which could really limit him in the nba. Obviously he's thin and struggles to finish and whatnot. Also, a lot of people are in love with his steals/rebounds/block numbers, but then you have to account for him playing in that zone. A long guard like him should be racking those kinds of numbers up in that sort of situation. So it becomes a question of, is he really that good on that end of the floor, or is he just in a good situation?

i think he can at least be a disruptive defender. the length is obvious, but he also has quick hands and looks to make plays defensively. he'll also have the advantage of being able to play off of his matchup, although that isn't always an advantage for PGs because of ball screens.

he came up big in the end but i do agree that his stock took a hit this game. he was bothered physically by russ smith, who's like 6' 170 soaking wet.

I don't necessarily disagree, but I just don't see him as a premier defender at the nba level. He'll be good, but not elite IMO.

As for the MCW takeover at the end, I wasn't as impressed as some. He had that bad possession where he couldn't get past Siva and had a shot clock violation. The steal for the dunk was more a terrible decision by Siva, he left his feet and passed it right to MCW. And then he split the throws at the end. He definitely made some nice plays(specifically that rip under the basket right at the end), but it wasn't some super clutch performance or anything.

My main concern with him is his handle and turnovers in the nba. His handle is not very good. Guards with quick feet to stay in front of him and pesky hands will give him major trouble in the nba. You put ball pressure on him and make him dribble the length of the floor and he will make mistakes. Guys like Eric Bledsoe or Brandon Jennings are his worst nightmare.

[black bart]

Has there ever been a prospect with as bad stats as Michael Carter Williams