GT: 2/6 NY Knicks @ Wizards 7PM CSN....

[doclinkin]

Quality win but keep in mind that it depended a lot on very hot 3 point shooting games from Ariza/Webster. Not surprisingly their streak of 7 out of 10 depended a lot on hot shooting from Beal/Webster.

Funny, knicks poster says basically what I said in the Woo! thread.

Re: GT: Knicks @ DC | 7:00 | 2.6.2013

Postby Brickz7 on Thu Feb 07, 2013 2:19 am
wizards have been 7-7 since wall came back...the man cant shoot but you cant keep him in front of you either so he creates help defense therefore leaves open shooters

Healthy John Wall means on any given night our outside shooters can get superhot. Especially if you have two out there, and Nene's on the high post as facilitator, midrange shooter, and dribble drive threat drawing a shotblocker out of the action.

[nuposse04]

Not sure I agree with the bigs thing...We struggle with a variety of different style of front courts. Stretch 4s abuse us, energy bigs have a field day on the boards with us and elite bigmen usually have their way. The games we won, it just seems like there is more consistent effort...that should have been there all along...We're going to face match up problems with some bigs but it just seems like better all around effort and better match ups could have fixed issues way earlier. Part of that is lack of veteran effort early on, and Randy not trusting his bench to match up accordingly. Teams go small against us a lot and Randy takes forever in leaving Okafor and Nene in there...if those two could impose their will on the game at all times, I'd have no problem with it...but they aren't that kind of players.

This is just nonsense. No bigs "have their way" with us. We are the 6th best defensive team in the league. And since Wall has been back, we have been the best defensive team in the league. Our problem isn't defense. How much more can you expect than the BEST FREAKING DEFENSE IN THE LEAGUE!

Our problem is offense.

You're joking right? Before Wall returned we could hardly keep the likes of JJ Hickson off the boards. LMA scorched us (oddly enough we swept POR but not because of our D on their front court). While there has been noticeable improvement as of late, I don't see how Wall should impact the front court defensive effort. It should have been season long. You can't tell me we don't struggle with stretch 4s.

I also have an issue with when we try to play big against small ball lineups. Our bigs rarely have the offensive skill to take advantage of their size, Nene might be the only guy to fully utilize mismatches. Okafor lately, my point is, I don't understand why that level of competency hasn't been there the whole time. I love watching this team win against talent they "shouldn't wing against" but its vexing as to where this effort has been all along. Is Wall's intangible effect that big?

[truwizfan4evr]

Aren't we killing are chances at a top 5 pick?

[80sballboy]

Missed the entire game. A win is a win and that's good, but a win based on hitting 11 of 20 isn't the start of any kind of trend. Looking at the minute distribution, it looks like Wittman finally figured out that Webster can play a little SG. Don't know why we don't see more of this. Temple is a fringe NBA player. He shouldn't see the court unless both Ariza and Webster exceed 36 minutes.

Not sure Ariza should get 36 minutes on most nights. Webster played 43 minutes- for tonight it's fine but probably not over a consistent basis. Temple is playing well, at least better than Jordan Crawford as of late.

Agree that was a fluke. Everybody talks about bad lineups. Huh? As much as we'd like, you can't play Seraphin 5 minutes, Singleton 10 minutes, Price 6 minutes and Temple 3 minutes every game. WTF? You'll kill all your main players. Webster will never be a 43 minute guy. He played great tonight but he's perfect to play with Wall when he's pushing the ball up the court or in the half court with his perimeter shooting. But he's had injury problems in the past. It would be stupid to run the guy down in a lost season. I do like him as a bench guy in the future. Great effort tonight and hopefully Beal returns shortly. Just want to see good basketball the rest of the way but we also have to develop a bench.

[Illuminaire]

Aren't we killing are chances at a top 5 pick?

Of course. But we started doing that the moment we traded for overpaid veterans and decided that playing .500 was a worthwhile organizational goal in of itself.

[CntOutSmrtCrazy]

I'll say one thing, who gives a damn if we won because of lights out three point shooting? It's not like we were down by twenty and came roaring back. We were down by three going into the fourth and won. Why is it that fans of this team feel the need to degrade every win we have? According to may, we only win by luck. I mean ****, I guess god blesses us only in wins.

[willbcocks]

The Knicks were a total joke under Isiah Thomas, and I became dismissive of many of their fans on this forum because so many bought into the Thomas hype for far too long (also, like the raptors, the knicks just have so many fans on this board that the total number of idiots goes up as well).

But I like that they brought together Carmelo Anthony and Tyson Chandler. Those two are great and compliment each other well (an offensive leader and a defensive leader). In this cap environment, getting two players like them and then finding good role players to fill around them is how you build a contender.

The problem is that they signed Amare to that ridiculous contract and then the rest of the team is a little thin, even with the veteran bandwagoners.

[DaRealHibachi]

Aren't we killing are chances at a top 5 pick?

Unless we get the 1st pick, it doesn't really matter... there's no clear-cut best player after Noel it seems...

[Chocolate City Jordanaire]

Aren't we killing are chances at a top 5 pick?

Unless we get the 1st pick, it doesn't really matter... there's no clear-cut best player after Noel it seems...

If the Wizards start winning and pick really low, they still can come out of this draft with someone like C. J. McCollum, who may impact games like Damian Lillard next season.

[closg00]

When do think we'll see that kind of 3-point shooting from this Wizard team? That was a amazing.

[tontoz]

[You're joking right? Before Wall returned we could hardly keep the likes of JJ Hickson off the boards. LMA scorched us (oddly enough we swept POR but not because of our D on their front court). While there has been noticeable improvement as of late, I don't see how Wall should impact the front court defensive effort. It should have been season long.

It has been all season long.On the season the Wizards are giving up the 3rd fewest points in the paint.

http://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/op ... t-per-game

[nate33]

You're joking right? Before Wall returned we could hardly keep the likes of JJ Hickson off the boards. LMA scorched us (oddly enough we swept POR but not because of our D on their front court). While there has been noticeable improvement as of late, I don't see how Wall should impact the front court defensive effort. It should have been season long. You can't tell me we don't struggle with stretch 4s.

I also have an issue with when we try to play big against small ball lineups. Our bigs rarely have the offensive skill to take advantage of their size, Nene might be the only guy to fully utilize mismatches. Okafor lately, my point is, I don't understand why that level of competency hasn't been there the whole time. I love watching this team win against talent they "shouldn't wing against" but its vexing as to where this effort has been all along. Is Wall's intangible effect that big?

6th best defense in the league.
Best defense in the league since Wall's return.

I don't know what else there is to say.

[nate33]

I'll say one thing, who gives a damn if we won because of lights out three point shooting? It's not like we were down by twenty and came roaring back. We were down by three going into the fourth and won. Why is it that fans of this team feel the need to degrade every win we have? According to may, we only win by luck. I mean ****, I guess god blesses us only in wins.

You are right, CntOutSmrtCrazy. The Wizards deserve more credit than I gave them. This was a very good win. Lights out shooting helped, but so did their usual rock-solid defense. Even if the Wizards shot a more pedestrian 8 of 20 from three point range, they would still have won by 1 point.

I'm still a little bitter after their performance against Sacramento and Philadelphia a few games back. Those losses took all the hope out of the season. Now they're just playing out the string. All games are meaningless so it's hard to get too excited.

[nate33]

[You're joking right? Before Wall returned we could hardly keep the likes of JJ Hickson off the boards. LMA scorched us (oddly enough we swept POR but not because of our D on their front court). While there has been noticeable improvement as of late, I don't see how Wall should impact the front court defensive effort. It should have been season long.

It has been all season long.On the season the Wizards are giving up the 3rd fewest points in the paint.

http://www.teamrankings.com/nba/stat/op ... t-per-game

We are also 7th best in the league in opponent 3P%. And we're 4th best in limiting fast break points.

Seriously, there is virtually nothing to complain about with this defense. And we do it without a dominating defensive big man. Okafor is solid, but nobody is putting him on any All Defense teams

[hands11]

I'll say one thing, who gives a damn if we won because of lights out three point shooting? It's not like we were down by twenty and came roaring back. We were down by three going into the fourth and won. Why is it that fans of this team feel the need to degrade every win we have? According to may, we only win by luck. I mean ****, I guess god blesses us only in wins.

You are right, CntOutSmrtCrazy. The Wizards deserve more credit than I gave them. This was a very good win. Lights out shooting helped, but so did their usual rock-solid defense. Even if the Wizards shot a more pedestrian 8 of 20 from three point range, they would still have won by 1 point.

I'm still a little bitter after their performance against Sacramento and Philadelphia a few games back. Those losses took all the hope out of the season. Now they're just playing out the string. All games are meaningless so it's hard to get too excited.

Yeep. That is what I was saying in the last game thread. Its going to be tough to get excited now because if they win to much, people will be unhappy because of the lower draft pick. I they lose to much people will be unhappy.

Just a week ago there were playoff hopes. Even if they were a long shot. Now Boston is two games over .500
And even if the Wizards keep playing well, they will need to make more adjustment when Beal returns. Who envisions that will go smoothy.

At this point Beal should just sit out the next 3 games and return after the All Star break.

[Iron Mantis]

Lol at Knicks fans thinking they have a chance at competing for a championship...that team stinks.

Coming from a fan of an azz-cheeks lottery team?

[DaRealHibachi]

Lol at Knicks fans thinking they have a chance at competing for a championship...that team stinks.

Coming from a fan of an azz-cheeks lottery team?

Atleast we're not delusional...

Knicks fans...

[Iron Mantis]

Enjoy the lottery until the Wizards are finally contracted. Long overdue.

[nate33]

Alright Iron Mantis. You've said your piece. That's enough baiting.

[GhostsOfGil]

Knicks fans never cease to amaze..