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Trade Targets, Part Deux

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Post#1181 » by enetric » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:16 pm

vincecarter4pres wrote:Even if they aren't ultimately traded, chances are most players like Eric Gordon, Smith and Redick will be sat tonight just in anticipation of potential moves to limit any risk of any injury foiling a possible agreement.



Or in the case of Eric Gordon...deciding to sit out is called "Wednesday"... :lol:
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Post#1182 » by VCRJKidd15 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:17 pm

If BK got JOSH SMITH to the Nets contracts aside he has pulled off the most incredible 2 year span of trades I can remember in any sport He deserves a lot of credit for it and he deserves the credit for the team he assembled this year(It ain't his fault most of the starting 5 is playing below avg ball)
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Re: Trade Targets, Part Deux 

Post#1183 » by enetric » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:18 pm

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So many unanswered questions because a top level coach could do a lot of damage with D Will, JJ, Crash, Smoove & Lopez. But if we don't appoint the right person it could be a $430m car crash



My biggest problem is...I cant come up with who is a top level coach. Carlisle? Can he be stolen away? I dont see a lot of coaches that really turn me on around the league who I can see being available.
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Post#1184 » by Ronito » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:19 pm

N Ireland Nets wrote:Am I the only person not excited at the thought of us trading for a 35 year old Paul Pierce??

It's the same offer for Smith; obvious smokescreen. Guess King can't get Atlanta to return his phone calls.
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Post#1185 » by enetric » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:22 pm

machu46 wrote:
Bucks won't trade Sanders.

It really comes down to what Atlanta thinks is more value:

Something like:
Dalembert's expiring contract
Ekpe Udoh
Tobias Harris
1st round pick

or:
Humphries contract (pretty sure Atlanta doesn't really want to take it)
MarShon Brooks
2 1st round picks (which would end up being late round picks assuming the Nets keep Josh Smith).

I think between those choices, they'll take Milwaukee's trade. If they don't, perhaps another team swoops in or perhaps Milwaukee gives up Monta Ellis/Dalembert/Udoh or Draft pick for Josh Smith and Devin Harris.



We'll see. I think the Bucks are in the drivers seat. But in the 11th hour if they want him bad enough...I can see them adding in a guy no one expected to be included.
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Re: Trade Targets, Part Deux 

Post#1186 » by machu46 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:22 pm

enetric wrote:
machu46 wrote:
Bucks won't trade Sanders.

It really comes down to what Atlanta thinks is more value:

Something like:
Dalembert's expiring contract
Ekpe Udoh
Tobias Harris
1st round pick

or:
Humphries contract (pretty sure Atlanta doesn't really want to take it)
MarShon Brooks
2 1st round picks (which would end up being late round picks assuming the Nets keep Josh Smith).

I think between those choices, they'll take Milwaukee's trade. If they don't, perhaps another team swoops in or perhaps Milwaukee gives up Monta Ellis/Dalembert/Udoh or Draft pick for Josh Smith and Devin Harris.



We'll see. I think the Bucks are in the drivers seat. But in the 11th hour if they want him bad enough...I can see them adding in a guy no one expected to be included.


I don't think Hammond would move Sanders for Smith straight up. Sanders is the most untouchable guy on the team.

If someone is added last second, I could see them maybe giving in and throwing in John Henson.
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Re: Trade Targets, Part Deux 

Post#1187 » by Paradise » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:23 pm

N Ireland Nets wrote:Am I the only person not excited at the thought of us trading for a 35 year old Paul Pierce??


It's a smokescreen it seems but even if it wasn't, you wouldn't want Pierce who still producing elite numbers? He had a 25 points, 14 assists, 14 rebounds game not too long ago.
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Post#1188 » by NyCeEvO » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:23 pm

What?

We need defense, not more offense.

PP is a good player but he's not the answer to our problems.
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Post#1189 » by CalamityX12 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:25 pm

N Ireland Nets wrote:Am I the only person not excited at the thought of us trading for a 35 year old Paul Pierce??


Not too excited myself... we have JJ and I doubt they'll take Crash, thus if PP were to come, that would push Crash at the 4 which is not a starting lineup i want.

but very unlikely to unfold IMHO.

If it does, though, we're going suck on transition D worse than before lol...
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Post#1190 » by CalamityX12 » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:27 pm

I will also like to say, if we do get PP... is that too many chiefs????

but idk how to welcome it... like it's not my top concern/target for addition/improvement to this team. lol so maybe that's why i'm not too thrilled or excited?
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Re: Trade Targets, Part Deux 

Post#1191 » by Paradise » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:28 pm

Damn, It's legit...
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Re: Trade Targets, Part Deux 

Post#1192 » by N Ireland Nets » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:30 pm

Paradise wrote:
N Ireland Nets wrote:Am I the only person not excited at the thought of us trading for a 35 year old Paul Pierce??


It's a smokescreen it seems but even if it wasn't, you wouldn't want Pierce who still producing elite numbers? He had a 25 points, 14 assists, 14 rebounds game not too long ago.


No I wouldn't want a 35 year old with 1 and a half years left on his deal for our only real assets, no matter how bad our assets are. This means we'd be unable to make any real move going forward for a couple more years and still have a huge void at PF.

I wouldn't touch this deal.
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Re: Trade Targets, Part Deux 

Post#1193 » by Paradise » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:32 pm

NyCeEvO wrote:What?

We need defense, not more offense.

PP is a good player but he's not the answer to our problems.

We need both. 80% of the team's struggles in games comes from the fact, teams will gamble and leave Wallace AND Evans open.

If Pierce is the starting SF, that's not going to happen anymore. Plus, as much as I'd hate to go from Smith to Pierce...Pierce would bring that Jason Kidd savvy that gave the Knicks the lift they got this year.

If It's Pierce straight up...I'd hate it. If It's Pierce + fillers (depending on who)....I'd be okay with it depending on who we give up.

I'm open minded to anything at this point. It's better than Gordon alone.
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Post#1194 » by JoseRizal » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:33 pm

I'd choose Josh Smith over the proposed Pierce trade. I'd only favor PP if he's packaged with KG.

Dwill
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KG
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Post#1195 » by Ronito » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:34 pm

Pierce's deal is only guaranteed $5 million for 2013. If we waive him, would that $5M be a cap hit? Trying to figure out what would happen in regards to the apron as an alternate deal for Gordon, if we were to hypothetically trade for him.

FWIW, I don't think Boston moves Pierce anyway. He's the heart and soul of their franchise, not team.
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Post#1196 » by AntwanBoldin » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:35 pm

It's silly.

But maybe Boston trades all 3 at once

Gets something back like cousins, jimmer, Bledsoe, turiaf, butler, Marshon, and picks
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Re: Trade Targets, Part Deux 

Post#1197 » by enetric » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:35 pm

N Ireland Nets wrote:Am I the only person not excited at the thought of us trading for a 35 year old Paul Pierce??



I like the idea of adding Pierce. I still say that there is an angle here to add him and KG together if we can turn Crash into an expiring contract like Jax from the Spurs. I really do believe KG would waive the NT clause if it meant being dealt a 1 hour plan ride away to still play with Pierce and the team that acquired him didnt give up any of their top 3 guys who play the other 3 starting spots.

Its a good fit and and great cash dump for Boston.

As for Pierce...doesnt he have a partially guaranteed contract? We can re-trade him in his walk year for value.

Look adding overpaid veterans is the only way over capped teams with no trade assets can gain a lopsided trade advantage on the talent side. Pierce is a good short term upgrade and a long term huge expiring non guaranteed contract when the time comes.
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Post#1198 » by NyCeEvO » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:36 pm

I just don't get why BOS would tank their playoff chances right now.

PP and Hump have the same length of their contracts.

Do they really like MarShon that much?
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Post#1199 » by NyCeEvO » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:37 pm

Ronito wrote:Pierce's deal is only guaranteed $5 million for 2013. If we waive him, would that $5M be a cap hit? Trying to figure out what would happen in regards to the apron as an alternate deal for Gordon, if we were to hypothetically trade for him.

FWIW, I don't think Boston moves Pierce anyway. He's the heart and soul of their franchise, not team.

Yeah, I think this is BS.

Unless, Nets are talking to BOS to help with ATL 3-way deal.
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Post#1200 » by Ronito » Wed Feb 20, 2013 10:37 pm

enetric wrote:
N Ireland Nets wrote:Am I the only person not excited at the thought of us trading for a 35 year old Paul Pierce??



I like the idea of adding Pierce. I still say that there is an angle here to add him and KG together if we can turn Crash into an expiring contract like Jax from the Spurs. I really do believe KG would waive the NT clause if it meant being dealt a 1 hour plan ride away to still play with Pierce and the team that acquired him didnt give up any of their top 3 guys who play the other 3 starting spots.

Its a good fit and and great cash dump for Boston.

As for Pierce...doesnt he have a partially guaranteed contract? We can re-trade him in his walk year for value.

Look adding overpaid veterans is the only way over capped teams with no trade assets can gain a lopsided trade advantage on the talent side. Pierce is a good short term upgrade and a long term huge expiring non guaranteed contract when the time comes.

See my post above; he's guaranteed $5 million next season. I forgot about the option of trading him away in the offseason. Would we be below the apron then?
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