Javale Mcgee for a bad contract and draft pick

scottcarman · Post #61 » by **scottcarman** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:27 pm

Why not McGee for Pek? If Pek makes in the 12 mil range then it should go straight up. Koufos and Pek would hold down the center, McGee is gone, and Mozgov can either be signed for around 5M/per as insurance for the big men or he can be involved in a sign and trade.

Heck, while we are at, throw in Gallo/Faried/McGee for Love/Pek

Nuggets lineup:
Lawson, Dre
Iggy, Hamilton, Fournier
Chandler, Brewer
Love, AR
Pek, Koufos

Minn lineup:
Rubio, Barea
Ridnour, Shved
Gallo, Kirilenko(Budinger?)
Faried, DWill
McGee, Stiemer

Post #62 » by **Trader_Joe** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:30 pm

scottcarman wrote:Why not McGee for Pek? If Pek makes in the 12 mil range then it should go straight up. Koufos and Pek would hold down the center, McGee is gone, and Mozgov can either be signed for around 5M/per as insurance for the big men or he can be involved in a sign and trade.

Heck, while we are at, throw in Gallo/Faried/McGee for Love/Pek

Nuggets lineup:
Lawson, Dre
Iggy, Hamilton, Fournier
Chandler, Brewer
Love, AR
Pek, Koufos

Minn lineup:
Rubio, Barea
Ridnour, Shved
Gallo, Kirilenko(Budinger?)
Faried, DWill
McGee, Stiemer

Why would Minny even consider a McGee/Pek swap, let alone the Love component you suggested?

scottcarman · Post #63 » by **scottcarman** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:41 pm

LApwnd wrote:Mcgee/Hamilton/Gallo
for
Cousins/Salmons

bad contract for bad contract with mcgee/salmon swap.

Den-has the makeup to overcome Cousin bad attitude on the court, due to their winning ways and tenured vet. Coach Karl. Salmons could theoretically be like Gallo type player with a core like Den currently has.

Sac-dumps their troublesome idiot for a less trouble some although equally unimpressive IQ player in Mcgee, Gallo becomes another solid floor spacing player to clearup paint congestion for Isiah/Evans to drive and kick more often.

I don't think Gallo is involved in any Cousin's deal.

scottcarman · Post #64 » by **scottcarman** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:44 pm

Trader_Joe wrote:
scottcarman wrote:Why not McGee for Pek? If Pek makes in the 12 mil range then it should go straight up. Koufos and Pek would hold down the center, McGee is gone, and Mozgov can either be signed for around 5M/per as insurance for the big men or he can be involved in a sign and trade.

Heck, while we are at, throw in Gallo/Faried/McGee for Love/Pek

Nuggets lineup:
Lawson, Dre
Iggy, Hamilton, Fournier
Chandler, Brewer
Love, AR
Pek, Koufos

Minn lineup:
Rubio, Barea
Ridnour, Shved
Gallo, Kirilenko(Budinger?)
Faried, DWill
McGee, Stiemer

Why would Minny even consider a McGee/Pek swap, let alone the Love component you suggested?

Because Minny fans were saying that they didn't like Pek for 12M, but they did like McGee for his contract. I was mainly just messing around with the Love trade, but I think that a Gallo/Faried package is in the ballpark of what Love would command.

LApwnd · Post #65 » by **LApwnd** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:52 pm

scottcarman wrote:
LApwnd wrote:Mcgee/Hamilton/Gallo
for
Cousins/Salmons

bad contract for bad contract with mcgee/salmon swap.

Den-has the makeup to overcome Cousin bad attitude on the court, due to their winning ways and tenured vet. Coach Karl. Salmons could theoretically be like Gallo type player with a core like Den currently has.

Sac-dumps their troublesome idiot for a less trouble some although equally unimpressive IQ player in Mcgee, Gallo becomes another solid floor spacing player to clearup paint congestion for Isiah/Evans to drive and kick more often.

I don't think Gallo is involved in any Cousin's deal.

why not? Den got to much money tied in Gallo/Chandler and possibly Iggy who all seem to play the 3 position.

scottcarman · Post #66 » by **scottcarman** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:55 pm

LApwnd wrote:
scottcarman wrote:
LApwnd wrote:Mcgee/Hamilton/Gallo
for
Cousins/Salmons

bad contract for bad contract with mcgee/salmon swap.

Den-has the makeup to overcome Cousin bad attitude on the court, due to their winning ways and tenured vet. Coach Karl. Salmons could theoretically be like Gallo type player with a core like Den currently has.

Sac-dumps their troublesome idiot for a less trouble some although equally unimpressive IQ player in Mcgee, Gallo becomes another solid floor spacing player to clearup paint congestion for Isiah/Evans to drive and kick more often.

I don't think Gallo is involved in any Cousin's deal.

why not? Den got to much money tied in Gallo/Chandler and possibly Iggy who all seem to play the 3 position.

Gallo/Lawson are the closest thing the Nuggets have as a go to scorer. He can shoot from 3 or drive and create off the dribble. He get's the most foul shots and doesn't shy away from contact. His advanced stats show that the Nuggets are much better when he is on the court. My personal opinion is that Chandler and/or Iggy would be easier to get. Gallo may be tradeable for the reasons you mentioned but not for a guy like Cousins that can blow up a locker room and act like a baby. Just my opinion.

LApwnd · Post #67 » by **LApwnd** » Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:59 pm

^^^Ok, well I thought Den would like keeping Chandler better since he's more athletic and cheaper but I'm sure Sac mgmt. would prefer Chandler as well for being a lesser contract, probably add a pick or something. Like I said bout Cousin, he needs to be on a winning team with a respected well tenured coach like Karl in order to keep his crap in check.

Cloud765 · Post #68 » by **Cloud765** » Wed Mar 20, 2013 3:15 am

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=a64vjlg

Mia sends Mike Miller, Joel Anthony, and Philly's 1st rounder (lotto protected)

HanginAround · Post #69 » by **HanginAround** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 12:17 am

Joel freeland 3 mil per year 2 years left... a rook that has not adjusted to the NBA well yet
A 2nd round pick
and a nice big fat trade exception to spend as you will

nugzin2040 · Post #70 » by **nugzin2040** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 5:14 am

Denver probably needs to shed some salary if they want to bring back Iggy and Brewer and not be in luxury tax territory... so a McGee trade could make some sense. But would have to be to a team that is under the cap or that had a big trade exception it was burning to use

I still think it is more likely that either Iggy signs elsewhere, or Chandler is traded. Love the latter, but his value has probably never been higher then it is currently. With a cheap contract, and it being a weak draft there might be a team willing to trade a pick in the 7-15 range in rolling the dice with Chandler.

youngthegiant · Post #71 » by **youngthegiant** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:16 am

HanginAround wrote:Joel freeland 3 mil per year 2 years left... a rook that has not adjusted to the NBA well yet
A 2nd round pick
and a nice big fat trade exception to spend as you will

haha good one.

moss_is_1 · Post #72 » by **moss_is_1** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:11 pm

LApwnd wrote:Mcgee/Hamilton/Gallo
for
Cousins/Salmons

bad contract for bad contract with mcgee/salmon swap.

Den-has the makeup to overcome Cousin bad attitude on the court, due to their winning ways and tenured vet. Coach Karl. Salmons could theoretically be like Gallo type player with a core like Den currently has.

Sac-dumps their troublesome idiot for a less trouble some although equally unimpressive IQ player in Mcgee, Gallo becomes another solid floor spacing player to clearup paint congestion for Isiah/Evans to drive and kick more often.

That would be pretty awful for Denver. You think Cousins would get any more PT then McGee under Karl?

I don't think McGee is even close to the bad value that Salmons is, and Gallo/Hamilton have to be at least close to Cousins(I'd prefer Gallo to Cousins, TBH).

Post #73 » by **DeBlazerRiddem** » Thu Mar 21, 2013 9:41 pm

Karl, like Popovic, doesn't suffer fools. Cousins would not max his potential in Denver.

Post #74 » by **moocow007** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:42 pm

youngthegiant wrote:Kosta koufos has been playing off the charts and Mcgee has only been playing about 10 minutes. It is a shame but Denver is in contending mode and they are winning without Mcgee. Denver will take a bad contract but will need to be getting draft pick, at the very least a lotto pick.

At the very least a lotto pick? If you want a pick, a lotto pick is the best pick already.

Post #75 » by **moocow007** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 9:42 pm

DeBlazerRiddem wrote:Karl, like Popovic, doesn't suffer fools. Cousins would not max his potential in Denver.

Yeah agreed.

youngthegiant · Post #76 » by **youngthegiant** » Sat Mar 23, 2013 12:44 am

Portland would be a good trade partner but an offer of Joel Freeman and a 2nd rounder isn't even close. J.J Hickson s&t and Meyers Leonard or 13 lottery pick for Mcgee and Jordan Hamilton.

DusterBuster · Post #77 » by **DusterBuster** » Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:50 am

youngthegiant wrote:Portland would be a good trade partner but an offer of Joel Freeman and a 2nd rounder isn't even close. J.J Hickson s&t and Meyers Leonard or 13 lottery pick for Mcgee and Jordan Hamilton.

Why would the Nuggets want Hickson? He's basically the same player as Faried who's going to need his own extension soon as well.

For what it's worth, that's going to be way too high of a price for most Portland fans here. Fair or not, McGee isn't well regarded by anyone outside of the Nuggets it seems. His insanely low BBIQ turns off a lot of fans.

AQuintus · Post #78 » by **AQuintus** » Sat Mar 23, 2013 1:58 am

youngthegiant wrote:Portland would be a good trade partner but an offer of Joel Freeman and a 2nd rounder isn't even close. J.J Hickson s&t and Meyers Leonard or 13 lottery pick for Mcgee and Jordan Hamilton.

As a fan of neither team, that's really, really, really bad for Portland.

AQuintus · Post #79 » by **AQuintus** » Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:01 am

scottcarman wrote: Because Minny fans were saying that they didn't like Pek for 12M, but they did like McGee for his contract.

I think I might be the only Wolves fan on these boards that's ever even suggested this, and that's only because of McGee's fit as an athletic finisher and rim protector with Love and Rubio and only if Adelman's no longer the coach. And even then, I'd NEVER, not in a million years, even consider including Love in that trade.

DusterBuster · Post #80 » by **DusterBuster** » Sat Mar 23, 2013 2:10 am

AQuintus wrote:
youngthegiant wrote:Portland would be a good trade partner but an offer of Joel Freeman and a 2nd rounder isn't even close. J.J Hickson s&t and Meyers Leonard or 13 lottery pick for Mcgee and Jordan Hamilton.

As a fan of neither team, that's really, really, really bad for Portland.

I'd actually consider Hickson and Leonard for McGee and Jordan, but I know I'm in the minority with that. It would give the Blazers their starting 5, Jordan would be nice off the bench and the Blazers keep their #13 pick. Leonard is pretty raw as a project and I'm not totally sure his BBIQ is much better than McGee's..... although he's not as prone to dumbfoundingly stupid plays like McGee is.