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2013 Draft Targets (#9, #26, #52, #59)

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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#621 » by Worm Guts » Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:37 pm

Flip?
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#622 » by Devilzsidewalk » Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:44 pm

I'm only mildly interested in Noel; w/ his thin frame, I don't think we see #1 pick returns for at least 3 years.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#623 » by Devilzsidewalk » Mon Mar 25, 2013 7:46 pm

The J Rocka wrote:
[RCG] wrote:Who do you guys like to replace him?

Shaka or Hoiberg.

However, I think if Hoiberg leaves Iowa St. it'll be for the NBA. I heard Flip is in the Gophers top 10, but not top 3.


I'd be shocked if they land Shaka or Hoiberg. I just don't think there's anything prestigious at all about that job to land a flashy up and comer.

It'd be funny if Howland and Tubby switched spots.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#624 » by Calinks » Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:34 pm

Yea I really don't see them getting Shaka, think that's wishful thinking. Hell, it was a miracle they got Tubby at the time, I think it will be pretty hard to get a big name who isn't desperate.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#625 » by Klomp » Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:35 pm

Sid was brutal during the presser.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#626 » by [RCG] » Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:37 pm

Calinks wrote:Yea I really don't see them getting Shaka, think that's wishful thinking. Hell, it was a miracle they got Tubby at the time, I think it will be pretty hard to get a big name who isn't desperate.


One thing that the Gophers have going for them is the fact that the Big 10 is essentially the basketball equivalent of SEC football.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#627 » by cpfsf » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:16 pm

i think plumlee is our dark horse pick if we draft 8th or 9th.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#628 » by ... » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:29 pm

Klomp wrote:Sid was brutal during the presser.



How so? I didn't see it.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#629 » by Klomp » Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:49 pm

... wrote:
Klomp wrote:Sid was brutal during the presser.



How so? I didn't see it.

One of my favorites:

"it's tough to find a good coach, Kill was the 5th choice, I don't know what number you were"
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#630 » by Wolf_Cry » Mon Mar 25, 2013 10:19 pm

Honestly, I've only started watching college hoop since March Madness started. I am really not impressed with McClemore. Does he have like, zero handles? I'm trying not to judge him based on scoring alone, but rather other minor stuff like handles, defense, intelligence, aggressiveness. It's a bit concerning. I'm intrigued by his tall stiff teammate Withey though. Wouldn't mind picking him up in the early 2nd round as a replacement for our tall stiff guy Steamer.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#631 » by teamwillow » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:19 am

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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#632 » by zerogravity15 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:22 am

Calinks wrote:Yea I really don't see them getting Shaka, think that's wishful thinking. Hell, it was a miracle they got Tubby at the time, I think it will be pretty hard to get a big name who isn't desperate.


I agree. The gophers coaching job isn't exactly a hot commodity. And I don't see any up and coming coaches leaving their spots. I hope the next coach can keep Tyus jones in state, but I just don't see that happening.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#633 » by jfg » Tue Mar 26, 2013 12:28 am

The Gophs job was a pretty good job, but two big name coaches have now come to MN after the Clem Haskins scandal only to crash and burn. I'd imagine a coach who is drawing interest would be thinking about that when making a decision. Promises were made to Tubby that weren't kept. Another factor that prospective coaches would think about. I'd bet we're getting a guy like Kill. A guy who's done well but nothing spectacular at the mid-major level and is a long shot to become a great coach. Sometimes those guys pan out though.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#634 » by Tirion » Tue Mar 26, 2013 1:31 am

I hope they get Flip, so that will eliminate him from becoming involved with Wolves again.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#635 » by zerogravity15 » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:10 am

Tirion wrote:I hope they get Flip, so that will eliminate him from becoming involved with Wolves again.


Protect one team from itself and drag the other back down to the dungeon eh? :lol:

I guess the gophers could hire someone worse than flip....... :-? .......well maybe...
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#636 » by Klomp » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:17 am

Doesn't sound like Flip is in the running
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#637 » by Worm Guts » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:18 am

Flip isn't that bad and I saw him talking to Tyus Jones after the state title. Anyone who can get Tyus to Minnesota is worth hiring.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#638 » by Klomp » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:28 am

Worm Guts wrote:Flip isn't that bad and I saw him talking to Tyus Jones after the state title. Anyone who can get Tyus to Minnesota is worth hiring.

But to quote Tirion, I think Teague wants to go away from the U's version of the Good Ol Boys
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#639 » by Devilzsidewalk » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:28 am

I think Flip would be a fantastic choice for the Gophers. Gophers are never going to get the elite recruits, but if Flip can recruit the guys for his system, he can build something good. Flip's failures aren't that bad - fired when Sam and Spree went mutiny on the Wolves, fired when the 60 win Pistons - notorious for their lack of urgency and always thinking their going to flip that switch - fizzled out against the champion Celtics, and fired for not being able to turn Arenas/Jamison/Foye/Mike Miller/Blatche/Nick Young into a playoff team.

In retrospect, those teams all did about what I'd expect. That Pistons team was not better than the new big 3 Celtics team and those Wolves and Wizards teams were at zero chemistry.
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Re: NCAA Basketball Thread / 2013 Draft Targets 

Post#640 » by Klomp » Tue Mar 26, 2013 2:31 am

... wrote:
Klomp wrote:Sid was brutal during the presser.



How so? I didn't see it.

Here were Sid's questions, followed by Teague's answers:

Q. In the old Williams arena that the fans love, like I wrote this morning. Recruits come here, they think it's a dump. You don't have a basketball building which every other school in the Big Ten just about has. You have a budget which isn't as high as a lot of schools. And you've got Tubby Smith has recruited these kids for three or four years, a new coach comes in and he has to start all over. Why couldn't you wait till next year?

NORWOOD TEAGUE: Again, I make the decision based on, as I said, a whole body of work and evaluate where we are now. I feel like it's by far the best decision that we can make right now.
There's a lot of you said there's limitations. Sure, there's some limitations. We've got a lot of great things, too, with this program. We have a great state to sell. We have an unbelievably passionate fan base and we have an unbelievable university. That's a lot to sell right now.


Q. What makes you think you can recruit a top guy that you haven't been able to recite a No. 1 guy for years; Jerry Kill was No. 5 on the list, four football coaches turned him down. I don't know what number you were, but I tell you what, this school has not been able to attract top guys. Do you think that you're going to get the guy that UCLA wants or some other top school wants, unless you get your guy from VCU?

NORWOOD TEAGUE: We are going to look for the right fit for the program. Doesn't have to be the candidate that everybody thinks we should get. It's going to be the right fit for our student athletes.
If we live in the past, we are going to get drug down by the fast. We have to look forward and we have to work hard while looking forward and be encouraged by that.

Q. How do you think this will affect recruiting? They have recruited these kids for two years and they have the best crop in the State of Minnesota. I know Ron Jirsa had a fantastic relationship with Jones, and remember the family told me if Minnesota had a chance to get him, because of that. Now your new guy comes in, he might not get a guy, and you've got to start all over with these guys, and the Mike Krzyzewskis and the Tom Izzos (Klomp's editorial note: pronounced it EYE-zo) and all these people have recruited these guys all this time, and now you're going to bring in a fresh guy to compete with those guys.

NORWOOD TEAGUE: Well, it's my intention to bring in somebody that will compete
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