McJesus - The Josh McRoberts Thread

LamarMatic7 · Post #121 » by **LamarMatic7** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 1:26 pm

doc.end wrote:Who's our DJ White?

Tyrus?

HornetJail · Post #122 » by **HornetJail** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 2:03 pm

doc.end wrote:Who's our DJ White?

DJ White.

We don't have him, they don't have him either. It works perfectly.

Snidely FC · Post #123 » by **Snidely FC** » Fri Mar 22, 2013 3:04 pm

You all have convinced me. The OKC model or bust.

BlackOutBuzz · Post #124 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:35 am

Couple days old...

"While most of the Bobcats are generally playing out the string — except when they face the Celtics — McRoberts is trying to optimize his chances to secure a guaranteed contract this summer. “I think here it’s been great so far for me in terms of getting an opportunity at my position,” he said. “You don’t want to ever get used to bouncing around. Everybody wants to find a role on a team and be comfortable. Everybody wants to get on a contender and try to make a run. “This is my sixth year and it’s something where I have seen a lot of situations and I want to get to a place where I can get an opportunity to help a team and hopefully win some games.”

--Boston Globe

Hmmmm, really hope we can keep him. But the whole "get on a contender" line isn't exactly encouraging. Although he does also say this was a good opportunity for him, so I don't know.

Elden Payton · Post #125 » by **Elden Payton** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:18 am

It was pretty obvious that he wanted to tout his skills and obviously he wants the word out there he's looking for a long term deal and situation, I really like McBob as a player and very much seen this coming.

Sik Infant wrote:Knowing our luck he averages 12/9/4/2/1 on 50/40/90 and gets a monster deal in FA...but not from us.

Sik Infant wrote:I think he has found a home.

He averaged 7/5/2 in 22mpg for the Lakers last season.

Sik Infant wrote:I think best case for McBob is he really impresses backing up the 4/5 and he gets a contract at roughly what he is on now, he's no hot commodity and even if he does produce people will discredit it because it was for us.

He is pretty much Diaw lite imo, but I refuse to say a guy who was never given a chance has reached his ceiling.

Elden Payton · Post #126 » by **Elden Payton** » Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:20 am

Orlando helped us and McRoberts on this one even with the TE.

Hennigan it seems has integrity in regards to his players.

catch20two · Post #127 » by **catch20two** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 5:43 pm

Dunlap Wants To See Bobcats Re-Sign McRoberts

Charlotte Bobcats coach Mike Dunlap has indicated that he'd like to see the team re-sign Josh McRoberts this summer.

McRoberts will become an unrestricted free agent after the season.

The Bobcats acquired McRoberts from the Orlando Magic in what seemed to be a minor deal last month, but he has become a starter for Charlotte.

"When he walked in the door you could see his high (basketball) IQ," Dunlap said. "His ability to pass has been contagious."

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/0 ... rt-of.html

Nanogeek · Post #128 » by **Nanogeek** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:32 pm

If we can resign him for less than $2m per year then sure lets resign him. But this guy has been passed around like a hot potato for a reason.

LamarMatic7 · Post #129 » by **LamarMatic7** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 6:48 pm

Nanogeek wrote:If we can resign him for less than $2m per year then sure lets resign him. But this guy has been passed around like a hot potato for a reason.

That reason being?

catch20two · Post #130 » by **catch20two** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:06 pm

I certainly wouldn't give him more than $4-5 million and 3 years max but I agree with Dunlap on his assessment of McBob. "His ability to pass has been contagious."

Post #131 » by **fatlever** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:18 pm

i am 100% on board resigning mcbob even if we have to renounce the rights to mullens to afford it.

something like 3 years 12 mil would be fine with me.

HornetJail · Post #132 » by **HornetJail** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:40 pm

catch20two wrote:I certainly wouldn't give him more than $4-5 million and 3 years max but I agree with Dunlap on his assessment of McBob. "His ability to pass has been contagious."

I agree with this.

fatlever wrote:i am 100% on board resigning mcbob even if we have to renounce the rights to mullens to afford it.

something like 3 years 12 mil would be fine with me.

I'm split on that. McBob is what he is- a role player, a really good one, but still. I'm still sticking with Mullens unless it takes a lot to re-sign him. That 25/18 game against Boston did it for me. I'm definitely okay paying him a little to stay. I doubt either McBob or Mully gets enough for us to be worried.

Either way, it's pretty likely we re-sign everyone we have: Hendo, Mully, and McBob. If Hendo gets $7M, Mullens gets $4M, and McBob gets $4M, Diop expires, Reggie expires, and we cut Tyrus, we should still have some space, correct?

catch20two · Post #133 » by **catch20two** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 8:59 pm

We'll be able to retain Mully after nobody offers him a sheet and we extend him the qualifying offer. If somebody does offer him a deal then I think it's farewell. I seriously doubt that Cho would dare consider offering Mully anything long term. Next year could possibly end up being a tryout for Mully to even stay in the league. I hope he's up for the task. Getting back on topic, I think we absolutely must bring back McBob at this point unless something seriously detrimental transpires before season's end.

thruthefire · Post #134 » by **thruthefire** » Fri Mar 29, 2013 10:18 pm

$3.3MM is too much for Mullens. That money could be used to sweeten the pot for a guy like Brandan Wright, you know, someone that is actually good at basketball.

I'm perfectly fine with signing McBob to a deal worth $3-4MM annually.

Elden Payton · Post #135 » by **Elden Payton** » Sat Mar 30, 2013 3:32 am

Mullens sucks so bad it's contagious.

Get him the **** out of here.

LamarMatic7 · Post #136 » by **LamarMatic7** » Tue Apr 2, 2013 8:13 pm

Zach Lowe:

Would you look at that: The Bobcats have a big man who can actually do something with the ball! McRoberts is logging more minutes than ever after the Bobcats snagged him from Orlando for the useless Hakim Warrick (since waived), and he has instantly become Charlotte's most competent offensive big man. He's a good enough screener and passer to facilitate from the elbows, something Mike Dunlap tried with Warrick and other bigs incapable of playing that role, and he's a smart enough cutter to snag an easy hoop here and there.

He's also picked up Charlotte's zone hybrids and pack-the-paint concepts quickly on defense, Dunlap told me Friday in New York. McRoberts admitted he has had to adjust to Charlotte's pick-and-roll scheme, which has him dropping down instead of blitzing ball handlers as he did in Indiana and last season with the Lakers. "I'm still getting my bearings a little bit," he says. Charlotte wants him back, but at what price?

catch20two · Post #137 » by **catch20two** » Tue Apr 2, 2013 8:30 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote: McRoberts admitted he has had to adjust to Charlotte's pick-and-roll scheme, which has him dropping down instead of blitzing ball handlers as he did in Indiana and last season with the Lakers.

This is what grabbed my attention the most and made me frown. No wonder Kemba struggles and get stuck on pick and roll defense, because he's playing 2 on 1. Dunlap seriously need to reconsider his defensive principles in the NBA.

LamarMatic7 wrote:Charlotte wants him back, but at what price?

3-years/$10 million (3rd year: Team Option)

LamarMatic7 · Post #138 » by **LamarMatic7** » Tue Apr 2, 2013 8:43 pm

catch20two wrote:
LamarMatic7 wrote: McRoberts admitted he has had to adjust to Charlotte's pick-and-roll scheme, which has him dropping down instead of blitzing ball handlers as he did in Indiana and last season with the Lakers.

This is what grabbed my attention the most and made me frown. No wonder Kemba struggles and get stuck on pick and roll defense, because he's playing 2 on 1. Dunlap seriously need to reconsider his defensive principles in the NBA.

To be fair, teams can play the pick-n-roll successfully with the big dropping down as well. If anything, it seems like you can give up a lot of points from reckless blitzes when done by mediocre or bad defensive teams.

catch20two · Post #139 » by **catch20two** » Tue Apr 2, 2013 9:01 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:
catch20two wrote:
LamarMatic7 wrote: McRoberts admitted he has had to adjust to Charlotte's pick-and-roll scheme, which has him dropping down instead of blitzing ball handlers as he did in Indiana and last season with the Lakers.

This is what grabbed my attention the most and made me frown. No wonder Kemba struggles and get stuck on pick and roll defense, because he's playing 2 on 1. Dunlap seriously need to reconsider his defensive principles in the NBA.

To be fair, teams can play the pick-n-roll successfully with the big dropping down as well. If anything, it seems like you can give up a lot of points from reckless blitzes when done by mediocre or bad defensive teams.

I don't know. I just always believed that blitzing the ball handler to get it out of the playmaker's hands or at least forcing him wide is the best way to defend the pick and roll. Otherwise you're giving the offense an advantage like we have been doing all season. It's understandable not to do it with Haywood on the floor but when you have young athletic bigs like we have in Biyombo (who does a good job at it), McRoberts, and Mullens you should blitz the pick and roll at the point.

SWedd523 · Post #140 » by **SWedd523** » Tue Apr 2, 2013 11:26 pm

I always grew up learning that my bigs are supposed to hedge hard on screens, because

1. it takes them out of your way while you get through the screen
2. allows you a chance to recover and get back on your man
3. disrupts their offensive rhythm because the ball handler can't attack off the pick

But that depends on a few things.

If the ball handler is a good shooter, read above
If the ball handler is a poor shooter, the big sags and you split them (go under the screen). That allows you to have better positioning after the screen

That doesn't even consider the ability of the pick setter as a roll man or pop man. If you have a good shooter and a great roll man, it's damn near impossible to stop (Nash/Amare, CP3/Blake)

My issue is that our guys attack the p&r the exact same way no matter who we face when they need to tailor the approach to the personnel we're facing, so we get burned by teams over and over again