Spring '13 GMAT Discussion Thread

Post #861 » by **MadNESS** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 12:19 pm

I see alot if problems coming from this team.
Your "vets" at this point (2014) are probably done with their careers.
Brand, Marion, Artest, Martin ect.
If Burke can become the player many beleive he can be, along with Bennet (I like this kid), this team could potentially become something in the future.
Alot rides on Cody Zeller too, which isn't a good thing.
Tyreke will probably try to "get his", with this unit, which will hamper Burke's and Benneta growth.

Don't get me wrong, there is a HELL OF A LOT of talent here, no doubt, but I can't see it messing well.

To many roll players, to many rookies, and to many old vets.

I like the direction for the future, but alot depends on kind of reaches for some rookies.

And not that it matter because GM's can take their teams in any direction they want, but the Knicks were second in the east overall, had an MVP candidate and a defensive player of the year, and sixth man of the year on the roster to start out with. IMO, a few moves away from a title.....

You asked for a critique, and I gave one, don't hate the playa, hate the game ; )

Post #862 » by **MadNESS** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 3:03 pm

bness888 wrote:Warriors, come out to playyyaaaa!

PG: John Wall / Ramon Sessions
SG: Terrence Ross
SF: Kyle Singler / Richard Jefferson / Draymond Green
PF: Micheal Beasley / Ekpe Udoh / Lavoy Allen
Cc: Marcin Gortat / Kevin Serephin / Festus Ezeli / Andris Biedrins

Sessions is on the block for a prospect
Festus Ezeli is on the block for a similar type PF or SF
Lavoy Allen is on the block for a prospect
I will use Jefferson's and Biendrins expiring's if it nets me an upgrade somewhere.
Looking for picks as well.

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KINGS:

Lamar Odom
Chris Kaman
Jason Kidd
Rasheed Wallace
Fab Melo
Eric Maynor
Marshon Brooks
Tony Mitchell (first rounder this year)
Lebryan Nash (second rounder this year)
2014 unprotected Miami first
2015 unprotected Miami first

Are on the block for the best SG I can get OR an upgrade at Center, PG or 6th man

Cantmesswithness8@yahoo.com
Bness8888 = AIM

moss_is_1 · Post #863 » by **moss_is_1** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 5:37 pm

PG: Ricky Rubio / Mario Chalmers / Aaron Brooks / Shaun Livingston
SG: Avery Bradley / Kevin Martin
SF: Kawhi Leonard / Carlos Delfino / Jordan Hamilton / Khris Middleton
PF: Dirk Nowitzki / Jason Thompson
C: Roy Hibbert / Brendan Haywood

Draft rights to Shane Larkin(#27 on DX) / Steven Adams(#18 on DX, raw but has amazing physical tools, only 19!)

Looking to move some young guys to rebuilding teams....not looking for a star or anything, maybe just to use them to upgrade a rotational player. Brooks is a min, so if someone wants him for a future pick or something hit me up.

oquist@live.com

eliasrapp98 · Post #864 » by **eliasrapp98** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:42 pm

What do people think of my CLE makeover?

Ty Lawson/Jordan Crawford
OJ Mayo/Wayne Ellington
AK47
David Lee/Birdman
Marc Gasol/Birdman

I think I upgraded everything, but PG, and Lawson is still very good.

Kinger95 · Post #865 » by **Kinger95** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:54 pm

I think the core of kyrie,waiters and Thompson all on rookie contracts with like 45 mill cap space to spend is perhaps 2 good signings and some internal improvement away from being a top 3 team. Lawson,mayo,lee and gasol(better now but all are maxed out as far as ceiling) is a very good team but don't have a top 10 player and not enough cap to add more pieces

RR9 · Post #866 » by **RR9** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:55 pm

eliasrapp98 wrote:What do people think of my CLE makeover?

Ty Lawson/Jordan Crawford
OJ Mayo/Wayne Ellington
AK47
David Lee/Birdman
Marc Gasol/Birdman

I think I upgraded everything, but PG, and Lawson is still very good.

kyrie>>>>>>lawson
waiters>>>mayo
miles<AK
thompson ~= lee
varejao <<<< marc

that's just me. you moved a franchise player for non-franchise, but still very good, talent. at the end of the day, franchise talent's harder to come by than very good players, so i think you inherently lose value in such a move.

eliasrapp98 · Post #867 » by **eliasrapp98** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 6:58 pm

RR9 wrote:
eliasrapp98 wrote:What do people think of my CLE makeover?

Ty Lawson/Jordan Crawford
OJ Mayo/Wayne Ellington
AK47
David Lee/Birdman
Marc Gasol/Birdman

I think I upgraded everything, but PG, and Lawson is still very good.

kyrie>>>>>>lawson
waiters>>>mayo
miles<AK
thompson ~= lee
varejao <<<< marc

that's just me. you moved a franchise player for non-franchise, but still very good, talent. at the end of the day, franchise talent's harder to come by than very good players, so i think you inherently lose value in such a move.

Waiters is equal to Mayo if not worse IMO, AK47 is miles above Miles. Miles was a tier 5 FA and AK last game was tier 2. Lee over Thompson by a landslide as well. Just my opinion though.

Karmaloop · Post #868 » by **Karmaloop** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:30 pm

eliasrapp98 wrote:What do people think of my CLE makeover?

Ty Lawson/Jordan Crawford
OJ Mayo/Wayne Ellington
AK47
David Lee/Birdman
Marc Gasol/Birdman

I think I upgraded everything, but PG, and Lawson is still very good.

It's a decent upgrade, but long term I think they're worse off. I'm not that big a fan of Lawson, and quite frankly I think he's a complimentary player not a building block. I'm one of Marc Gasol's biggest fans, but he needs an elite PG to play with. Think Chris Paul. Not a fan of Mayo in the slightest, avoided him like the plague in every game I play. I was in his corner when he was drafted, but he just hasn't turned into the player I thought he'd be. Oh, and I'm in the corner that thinks that David Lee is significantly overpaid.

bringbackhoffa · Post #869 » by **bringbackhoffa** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 7:47 pm

What are your opinions on the raps, I decided to go really young and rebuild pretty much from scratch.

We cleared a bunch of salary going into a rather impressive 2014 free agency class, and accumulated several picks for the strong 2014 draft. We have not made it a secret that we would like to win the lottery again to draft a certain Canadian superstar that would expedite the rebuild ad he would be used to attract top notch free agents

We are also interested to see how noel will pan out at the PF position as his offensive game still requires some help

Current roster
Vasquez / Fredette
Goodwin/vc
Saric/dwill
Noel/bargnani
Val / mullens /oakafor

Inactive:teague,morris,ariza,smith

Really want to take a good hard look at bargs and dwill as both have yet to live up to expectations. As bargs is still amnesty eligible at the end of the year and dwill has a team option

Don't hold back

Tully305 · Post #870 » by **Tully305** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:07 pm

Karmaloop · Post #871 » by **Karmaloop** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 9:59 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:Don't hold back

What free agent is going to want to come to Toronto, realistically? Honestly, I would have tried to put together the best possible contender. Essentially turned Lowry/Gay into Vasquez/Saric, and were bad enough to land Noel.

Kinger95 · Post #872 » by **Kinger95** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:00 pm

Ya,people always rebuild in Toronto ,Val hasn't been delt the last 2games and he could fetch a nice win now piece as could Ross. I honestly think the only team that is almost impossible to turn into a playoff team in this game is Orlando. Everyone else has the assets when the game starts to build a winner.

Post #873 » by **MadNESS** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:07 pm

Kinger95 wrote:Ya,people always rebuild in Toronto ,Val hasn't been delt the last 2games and he could fetch a nice win now piece as could Ross. I honestly think the only team that is almost impossible to turn into a playoff team in this game is Orlando. Everyone else has the assets when the game starts to build a winner.

Gimmie Orlando next game.

Karmaloop · Post #874 » by **Karmaloop** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:11 pm

bness888 wrote:
Kinger95 wrote:Ya,people always rebuild in Toronto ,Val hasn't been delt the last 2games and he could fetch a nice win now piece as could Ross. I honestly think the only team that is almost impossible to turn into a playoff team in this game is Orlando. Everyone else has the assets when the game starts to build a winner.

Gimmie Orlando next game.

I was thinking about possibly taking Orlando next game. Thinking between Indiana, Orlando, and Atlanta. Not sure yet.

Karmaloop · Post #875 » by **Karmaloop** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:11 pm

Also, since things are at a snails pace right now, do we want to move the deadline up to tomorrow at noon?

Slot Machine · Post #876 » by **Slot Machine** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:19 pm

Karmaloop wrote:Also, since things are at a snails pace right now, do we want to move the deadline up to tomorrow at noon?

I'd be fine with that.

Koponen · Post #877 » by **Koponen** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:21 pm

PG: Dragic, D. Collison
SG: Ellis, J. Terry, Wroten, Seth Curry
SF: Iguodala, M. Williams, Fournier
PF: R. Anderson, A. Randolph, Jaiteh
C: Pekovic, Koufos, O'Quinn, C. Iverson

Looking to consolidate pieces for a star. Willing to move anybody in the right deal!

AIM: maxr89
E-mail: RealestRealGM@gmail.com

Post #878 » by **MadNESS** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:31 pm

Karmaloop wrote:Also, since things are at a snails pace right now, do we want to move the deadline up to tomorrow at noon?

I wouldn't change it. Stay course. There are still plenty of talks going on. But I'm just 1 of 29, so I don't count for much.

Kinger95 · Post #879 » by **Kinger95** » Mon Apr 22, 2013 11:57 pm

Slot Machine wrote:
Karmaloop wrote:Also, since things are at a snails pace right now, do we want to move the deadline up to tomorrow at noon?

I'd be fine with that.

I'd be fine with that. Had 2 offers in the last 3 days.

Post #880 » by **Klomp** » Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:48 am

Pelicans still around.

Jack / Foye / Roberts
McLemore / Budinger / Tucker
Porter / Dudley
Love / Hill
Bynum / Leonard / Stiemsma / Thabeet

We are looking for a third star on the wing. Looking at guys in the mold of Iguodala, Joe Johnson, etc.

joshvanklomp@gmail.com