Raptors Official 2013 Offseason Transaction Idea Thread

[Marvin Martian]

There are maybe 7 wing players I would trade Ross for this draft. Shabazz isn't a good prospect but at this point, you need to establish a better foundation than the one we currently have.

[bboyskinnylegs]

I'm not particularly high on Shabazz, but sure, if we could actually trade Ross to get him, I'd do it. Not sure what kind of value Ross holds after his rookie season, but if possible I'd like to grab a pick that could net us one of Dario Saric, Steven Adams, or Giannis Adetokunbo. All three of those guys have upside that far surpasses Ross' imo, and won't necessarily require utilizing a high lotto pick.

[Yeezus_]

We need a Backup center. And no Gray wont cut it.

On a side note, who saw the Kanye West video premiere that was projected on four different buildings tonight?

[Saul Goodman]

We need a Backup center. And no Gray wont cut it.

On a side note, who saw the Kanye West video premiere that was projected on four different buildings tonight?

take a flier on Oden? cant be worse then Gray.

[nodeal]

If only we could type 74 pages of ridiculous scenarios and they come true.

[timdunkit]

I think we need a 2 year plan of retooling/rebuilding.

I would see the core as Lowry/Gay/Jonas if we want to win.

Fields/Bargnani expire in 2 years. I don't mind keeping Fields since he contributes to the team well and is still young.

I think we can dump Bargnani for 2 contracts (one being expiring) or a similar contract player (maybe Tyrus Thomas from Charlotte? Charlotte gets scoring).

The difficult move to gauge is Derozan. He might have higher value from a GM's perspective then what we regard him with.

Move Derozan for a late lotto pick and a shorter contract. I'd try to sell high on Amir and see if we can get a late lotto pick from a team.

Hopefully ROss develops into a 3+D type SG or we might have to look for one in the market and see if we can sell Ross now.

If we can add a solid PF option besides Lowry/Gay/Jonas (which I think is doable but going to be very tough), then I think this team will make the next step in terms of wins.

[ThatClockWork]

I personally would try and go after Oden .. also since moving Bargnani should be a priority .. looking at Okafor as a potential trading piece in Washington seems like the ideal groundwork for a deal to be hashed out

Okafor, Vesely for Bargnani, Kleiza works in the machine.

[talha746]

What about Allen Iverson? I know how far fetched it sounds but do you guys think he might be a good fit? He is certainly better than Lowry even at age 37.

[ThatClockWork]

What about Allen Iverson? I know how far fetched it sounds but do you guys think he might be a good fit? He is certainly better than Lowry even at age 37.

You have to be delusional to even suggest that Iverson is better than Lowry at this point.

Just wait and see .. you will see a different Kyle Lowry this season if the management and coaching staff changes

[talha746]

What about Allen Iverson? I know how far fetched it sounds but do you guys think he might be a good fit? He is certainly better than Lowry even at age 37.

You have to be delusional to even suggest that Iverson is better than Lowry at this point.

Just wait and see .. you will see a different Kyle Lowry this season if the management and coaching staff changes

Lowry disappointed this season, he showed his good passing skills and setting up teammates well but his scoring was well below what was expected of him. Iverson is a MVP caliber player and im sure he would be better than Lowry, even under new management.

[ThatClockWork]

What about Allen Iverson? I know how far fetched it sounds but do you guys think he might be a good fit? He is certainly better than Lowry even at age 37.

You have to be delusional to even suggest that Iverson is better than Lowry at this point.

Just wait and see .. you will see a different Kyle Lowry this season if the management and coaching staff changes

Lowry disappointed this season, he showed his good passing skills and setting up teammates well but his scoring was well below what was expected of him. Iverson is a MVP caliber player and im sure he would be better than Lowry, even under new management.

Lowry had a leash put on him by a coaching staff, whose ideal PG they traded away. Don't forget the amount of injuries he battled through this season to play. Unleash Lowry and he will play very much like he did the first few games of the season. Iverson is a veteran who has lost his first step. He doesn't have the quickness or the durability he once had. At 37, he really couldn't do much else for a team as a player - but in an advisory role .. completely different situation. (He could be no worse than Telfair was for us this season, that much I can give him )

[talha746]

lol i understand ur argument too but Iverson EVEN at 37 will be better than Lowry any day! Iverson is a mvp caliber player while Lowry isnt even an all star

[Marvin Martian]

Derozan to MIL for Gooden + 2013 pick.

draft Shane Larkin

T-Ross to LAC for the 25th pick

draft Ricky Ledo

Sign Korver and Carl Landry


Lowry/Larkin
Korver/Ledo
Gay/Fields
Amir/Acy
Val/Landry

We would still be capped out but with a better core of young players with upside.

[SaveTheHens]

lol i understand ur argument too but Iverson EVEN at 37 will be better than Lowry any day! Iverson is a mvp caliber player while Lowry isnt even an all star

Iverson was an mvp caliber player. Now he's worn out with a big ego. If he was willing to soften up his ego, and come in as a backup or 3rd string PG then I would take him. If you want to start him you're either misinformed, delusional or trolling.

[Heroball]

Derozan to MIL for Gooden + 2013 pick.

draft Shane Larkin

T-Ross to LAC for the 25th pick

draft Ricky Ledo

Sign Korver and Carl Landry


Lowry/Larkin
Korver/Ledo
Gay/Fields
Amir/Acy
Val/Landry

We would still be capped out but with a better core of young players with upside.

Wow that is terribad especially the Derozan trade. DD and Ross can fetch you better pieces than that my god. Yucky

[Marvin Martian]

Derozan to MIL for Gooden + 2013 pick.

draft Shane Larkin

T-Ross to LAC for the 25th pick

draft Ricky Ledo

Sign Korver and Carl Landry


Lowry/Larkin
Korver/Ledo
Gay/Fields
Amir/Acy
Val/Landry

We would still be capped out but with a better core of young players with upside.

terribad. DD and Ross can fetch you better pieces than that my god.

Why would anyone give us a king's ransom for a 10 million dollar player who hasn't hit a PER of over 15 in his first 4 years?

[Heroball]

Derozan to MIL for Gooden + 2013 pick.

draft Shane Larkin

T-Ross to LAC for the 25th pick

draft Ricky Ledo

Sign Korver and Carl Landry


Lowry/Larkin
Korver/Ledo
Gay/Fields
Amir/Acy
Val/Landry

We would still be capped out but with a better core of young players with upside.

terribad. DD and Ross can fetch you better pieces than that my god.

Why would anyone give us a king's ransom for a 10 million dollar player who hasn't hit a PER of over 15 in his first 4 years?

Why even watch the games if all you're gonna do is make PER the be all end all? Realgm favorite Arron Afflalo hasn't hit a PER of 15 in 6 seasons I guess that means he's trash? DD's PER this season is 14.8 omg what a huge difference that .2 makes. And who said anything about a King's Ransom? I just don't agree with your idea of fair value by trading DD for a over the hill big men who still has 2 years left on his contract and another undersized back up point guard. That does nothing for our team.

[Marvin Martian]

You can change the pick to whoever is on the board. Larkin, KCP (preferable), Goodwin, Franklin it would not matter. What would matter is that we get fair value for Derozan before he becomes a negative trade asset. Acquiring bad contracts like Gooden is more of an incentive for MIL to do the deal.

Contract wise Gooden would come off the books 2 years earlier than Derozan, and at a same time as Gay and Fields, allowing for a full rebuild if we want.

MEM did not think Rudy Gay was worth more than an over the hill SF with 2 years left on his contract so this trade seems like fair value to me.

Lowry/Wolters
Korver/KCP
Gay/Fields
Amir/Acy
Val/Landry

That is even better than the previous one I mentioned.

[eitanr]

I don't mess with the starting 5 just yet. It was the 5th best unit in the league in terms of overall is minus with at least 100 min played. The main reason is purely from D. Amir and Jonas protect the rim and rebound which allow for Gay and Lowry to cheat defensively and force a decent amount of turnovers. Meanwhile DeRozan has been far better playing alongside Gay.

I think I'd like to see that unit continue from last season with Jonas getting some more touches in the post and Lowry being a tad more aggressive.

The issue is clearly with the bench. I don't hate Acy as a backup 4 at this stage. He showed some growth down the stretch and units with Jim have had a reboundin advantage (he doesn't collect them but creates more space for others to collect). The real issue though is an offensive creator off the bench. Our backup PG needs to be a Lowry clone, someone who is an all in one PG package and create some offense as well. It's asking a lot.

Some ideas would obviously be packaging Bargnani. I think my main targets would be either Hawes and J Rich on a deal or Stuckey. Hawes would clear the backup 5 void while Stuckey fills a huge need at backup 1. Both teams may require Ross as part o a larger deal though which may stink. Ultimately though the argument there could be made that Bargnani could fit next to Monroe and Drummond as a spacing big or ditto in Philly.

I hav a feelin if the Sixers go all in with Bynum then Bargs makes most sense there. The backup PG would then be a major void and I'd say make a run at Devin Harris at free agency.

If Stuckey can be had, then with the backup 5 void make a run at Dally in free agency.

[VinBaker6]

Tick, tock...