#3 for Ilyasova being discussed

Deeptu McPullup · Post #41 » by **Deeptu McPullup** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 4:52 am

Saw this on the Bucks' board and thought it would generate a great deal of....fan interest:

Can we call the trade 'Ersanity'?

worthlessBucks wrote:Ernie and Hammond, the game of checkers begins.

AFM · Post #42 » by **AFM** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 4:56 am

Oh god.

JWizmentality · Post #43 » by **JWizmentality** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 6:33 am

Think I',m going to be f*cking sick.

Deivy202 · Post #44 » by **Deivy202** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 6:45 am

JWizmentality wrote:
Deivy202 wrote:I mean Nene ran center pretty good too before so its not like we will lose like a TON I mean okefor a good player but Iiyasova has yet to even which his peak hes just 26 and has shown games of coming out of no where and rebound 12-18 times and hit 20 points.

I think its a good risk our objective is to be more than a 6th seed and lets be honest okefor and nene are good but not big future pieces.

And Ersan is our 4 of the future?!? Yes, Nene and Oak are no spring chickens but they only anchored this historically bad team to the 5th best defense in the league. Really people? I can't believe what I'm reading.

Hes 26 years old vs nene and okefor age. how can you sit here saying he potentially can't be a futuristic piece at the 4?

And losing one of Okefor or nene wont hurt us they have to go either way any ways just saying! its not like we down the line can not find defenders we need more scorers and people to spread the court.

Deivy202 · Post #45 » by **Deivy202** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 6:53 am

man the hate for this guy is crazy! nene and okefor are old time to get younger we will need about 5 more years to consider maybe a championchip I rather have a young expensive player than a old injury prone players.

gambitx777 · Post #46 » by **gambitx777** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 7:49 am

If they take NENE Jan 3, and its erson Henson, and some filler and 15 i could live with that
or
Ariza, Jan chris and 3 for Ersan Henson and 15
i could live with that.
but those were not to popular in the bucks threads, and it seems like they don't want to give up sanders or Henson. which If Henson is not in the deal with the 15th pick i would rather not do the deal at all.

Jay81 · Post #47 » by **Jay81** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 11:52 am

Someone please email Ted NOW

willbcocks · Post #48 » by **willbcocks** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 11:57 am

Who cares what is popular on the Bucks threads? Of course they don't want to give up more. But their GM is just as bad, if not worse, than ours. If a trade would down, it could easily be a disaster in EITHER direction.

20MexicanosIn1Van · Post #49 » by **20MexicanosIn1Van** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 12:52 pm

No matter what happens, I think we all can agree that they shouldn't trade the pick before the draft happens. Noel could very well slip to us.

closg00 · Post #50 » by **closg00** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 1:15 pm

Trade rumor being shot-down, but it was very believable because of Ernie's track-record.

Peter Vecsey: And another thing; report on line that Bucks and Wizards are discussing Ersan-No. 3 swap is crazy wrong. Herb Kohl likes Ersan more than me.

deneem4 · Post #51 » by **deneem4** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 1:49 pm

Il do
Ersan
15th
43rd
2014 1st rd

Ariza
3rd

Imagine beal ersan and webster on the floor at once...
Thats 3 40% 3pt shooters...

sfam · Post #52 » by **sfam** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 2:17 pm

closg00 wrote:Trade rumor being shot-down, but it was very believable because of Ernie's track-record.

Peter Vecsey: And another thing; report on line that Bucks and Wizards are discussing Ersan-No. 3 swap is crazy wrong. Herb Kohl likes Ersan more than me.

Nice to know. As long as we keep the pick, we will get lots better. Trades with EG at the helm are badness...

TheKingOfVa360 · Post #53 » by **TheKingOfVa360** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 2:31 pm

It's no way in the World even Ernie would trade the 3 overall pick for Ersan. It's a rumor started by Bucks fans. No one on their roster is worth a top 5 pick. The sad thing is some fans are worried because EG has such a bad track record. I hope someone from the Wizards speaks up and shoots down this trade.

JWizmentality · Post #54 » by **JWizmentality** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 3:21 pm

Deivy202 wrote:
JWizmentality wrote:
Deivy202 wrote:I mean Nene ran center pretty good too before so its not like we will lose like a TON I mean okefor a good player but Iiyasova has yet to even which his peak hes just 26 and has shown games of coming out of no where and rebound 12-18 times and hit 20 points.

I think its a good risk our objective is to be more than a 6th seed and lets be honest okefor and nene are good but not big future pieces.

And Ersan is our 4 of the future?!? Yes, Nene and Oak are no spring chickens but they only anchored this historically bad team to the 5th best defense in the league. Really people? I can't believe what I'm reading.

Hes 26 years old vs nene and okefor age. how can you sit here saying he potentially can't be a futuristic piece at the 4?

And losing one of Okefor or nene wont hurt us they have to go either way any ways just saying! its not like we down the line can not find defenders we need more scorers and people to spread the court.

Yes we are going to need a younger frontline sooner or later, but Ersan CANNOT give us what Nene or Oak gives us at this moment. Not even close. He got abused by Miami....MIAMI!! With no frikkin bigs!! And you would consider him our 4 for the future?? Even as a joke it's not very funny.

JWizmentality · Post #55 » by **JWizmentality** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 3:40 pm

closg00 wrote:Trade rumor being shot-down, but it was very believable because of Ernie's track-record.

Peter Vecsey: And another thing; report on line that Bucks and Wizards are discussing Ersan-No. 3 swap is crazy wrong. Herb Kohl likes Ersan more than me.

Vecsey I could kiss you. Please let it be so.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #56 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 3:47 pm

montestewart wrote:Maybe it's just my imagination, but it seems like every year EG is the first to make a deal, like he has some notion that the first to make a deal gets the best deal. Then all the Wizards fans get to watch as subsequent seem to indicate that he could have gotten better value had he been more patient. Or smart. He's like a drunk at an auction.

I get upset each time he does it. It's tragic to have to endure but I guess it's inevitable the guy will do another head-scratcher.

H2tObes · Post #57 » by **H2tObes** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 4:26 pm

Ersan is a damn good player, he can put up 25/10 any given night and is one of the best shooters at the 4 I've seen.

His defense is not that bad, he is great at taking the charge. Also a great rebounder, I'd say his value is around the 5th pick in this draft. He'll be really good for you guys for a few years if this trade goes down, don't want to see him go as a Bucks fan at all.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ersan_ily ... stats.html
Look at some of those games he was putting up consistently the second half of the season, he was slumping hard for the first month or so for whatever reason. Im guessing it was because of Skiles, because Scott Skiles is crazy.

AFM · Post #58 » by **AFM** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 4:33 pm

Exactly. So why would we trade Okafor and #3 for #5?

H2tObes · Post #59 » by **H2tObes** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 4:36 pm

AFM wrote:Exactly. So why would we trade Okafor and #3 for #5?

Ersan + 15 + LRMAM+ Udoh is worth the 3 I'd say. Lrmam is an absolutely elite defender, I've seen him give Lebron fits multiple times, good player to have on your team. Udoh is also a really nice player to have on your bench, does a lot of things right on the court, doesnt show up in the box score, phenomenal help defender. You guys can even throw Ariza in there. Its close for sure!

You guys would really like Ersan, he's a serious beast at times.

nuposse04 · Post #60 » by **nuposse04** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 4:40 pm

H2tObes wrote:Ersan is a damn good player, he can put up 25/10 any given night and is one of the best shooters at the 4 I've seen.

His defense is not that bad, he is great at taking the charge. Also a great rebounder, I'd say his value is around the 5th pick in this draft. He'll be really good for you guys for a few years if this trade goes down, don't want to see him go as a Bucks fan at all.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ersan_ily ... stats.html
Look at some of those games he was putting up consistently the second half of the season, he was slumping hard for the first month or so for whatever reason. Im guessing it was because of Skiles, because Scott Skiles is crazy.

Lol you make it sound like he's a top 5 forward. Anyone can have a monster game on any given night. I like Ersan, but I see his value being more like...7-9 in this draft.