#3 for Ilyasova being discussed

[Deeptu McPullup]

He'll be really good for you guys for a few years.

Well this just pushes it over the top for me.

[H2tObes]

Ersan is a damn good player, he can put up 25/10 any given night and is one of the best shooters at the 4 I've seen.

His defense is not that bad, he is great at taking the charge. Also a great rebounder, I'd say his value is around the 5th pick in this draft. He'll be really good for you guys for a few years if this trade goes down, don't want to see him go as a Bucks fan at all.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ersan_ily ... stats.html
Look at some of those games he was putting up consistently the second half of the season, he was slumping hard for the first month or so for whatever reason. Im guessing it was because of Skiles, because Scott Skiles is crazy.

Lol you make it sound like he's a top 5 forward. Anyone can have a monster game on any given night. I like Ersan, but I see his value being more like...7-9 in this draft.

Well to be fair a top 5 forward is worth a lot more than the 3 in this draft.

If you look at the game log he was putting up close to that very often, all I'm trying to say it never surprised me to see big numbers from him, he just takes over games with his dead eye shooting and offensive rebounding at times. His per game numbers would look better if we didnt have a logjam at pf, he is extremely capable of putting up his per36 numbers of 17/9 if given minutes, on amazing efficiency from three at 45% these last two seasons. You guys could definitely use a stretch four also, he's only 25.

[H2tObes]

He'll be really good for you guys for a few years.

Well this just pushes it over the top for me.

Well he's only 25 (possibly ), an NBA career is only so long. If you have him signed until he's 32 or whenever he begins to decline, you'll have a good player for 7 years.

100% he can be a teams PF of the future. We're only trading him because we think we may have a gem at PF with Henson.

[deneem4]

Hes an older klay thompson...and we would trade tht 3rd pick in a heart beat for klay....miami had birdman, hes a top 7 center like it or nt And miami is miami...everyone except paul george Was embaressed by them...
porter may be the nxt ummm luol deng at best...but how hard is that to come by??...look at jimmy butler, look at iman shumpert...sound exactly lik what people want porter to be...

Ersan had the 4th best 3pt % this yr...2nd last yr

Our development team suck...especially for forwards...
I could understand if we were drafting oladipo, but other than him theres no game changer in this draft with a good acl...

Ersan can change our team...everytime he subs the opp will have to make adjustments...I would even like to see him an vesley at sf and pf combo...

[sfam]

Hes an older klay thompson...and we would trade tht 3rd pick in a heart beat for klay....miami had birdman, hes a top 7 center like it or nt And miami is miami...everyone except paul george Was embaressed by them...
porter may be the nxt ummm luol deng at best...but how hard is that to come by??...look at jimmy butler, look at iman shumpert...sound exactly lik what people want porter to be...

Ersan had the 4th best 3pt % this yr...2nd last yr

Our development team suck...especially for forwards...
I could understand if we were drafting oladipo, but other than him theres no game changer in this draft with a good acl...

Ersan can change our team...everytime he subs the opp will have to make adjustments...I would even like to see him an vesley at sf and pf combo...

Wait, did I read that right? Birdman is a top 7 center????

[sfam]

Exactly. So why would we trade Okafor and #3 for #5?

Ersan + 15 + LRMAM+ Udoh is worth the 3 I'd say. Lrmam is an absolutely elite defender, I've seen him give Lebron fits multiple times, good player to have on your team. Udoh is also a really nice player to have on your bench, does a lot of things right on the court, doesnt show up in the box score, phenomenal help defender. You guys can even throw Ariza in there. Its close for sure!

You guys would really like Ersan, he's a serious beast at times.

Maybe I watched a different playoff series than you, but I don't remember LRMAM giving LeBron too much trouble in the playoffs. Am I wrong about that?

[AWIZZINGBULLET]

Exactly. So why would we trade Okafor and #3 for #5?

Ersan + 15 + LRMAM+ Udoh is worth the 3 I'd say. Lrmam is an absolutely elite defender, I've seen him give Lebron fits multiple times, good player to have on your team. Udoh is also a really nice player to have on your bench, does a lot of things right on the court, doesnt show up in the box score, phenomenal help defender. You guys can even throw Ariza in there. Its close for sure!

You guys would really like Ersan, he's a serious beast at times.

Maybe I watched a different playoff series than you, but I don't remember LRMAM giving LeBron too much trouble in the playoffs. Am I wrong about that?

What is LRMAM?

[JWizmentality]

Ersan is a damn good player, he can put up 25/10 any given night and is one of the best shooters at the 4 I've seen.

His defense is not that bad, he is great at taking the charge. Also a great rebounder, I'd say his value is around the 5th pick in this draft. He'll be really good for you guys for a few years if this trade goes down, don't want to see him go as a Bucks fan at all.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ersan_ily ... stats.html
Look at some of those games he was putting up consistently the second half of the season, he was slumping hard for the first month or so for whatever reason. Im guessing it was because of Skiles, because Scott Skiles is crazy.

Well damn dude, really considerate of your FO to just let us have this massive allstar. We are just bending you over huh. You whore you.

[sfam]

Ersan + 15 + LRMAM+ Udoh is worth the 3 I'd say. Lrmam is an absolutely elite defender, I've seen him give Lebron fits multiple times, good player to have on your team. Udoh is also a really nice player to have on your bench, does a lot of things right on the court, doesnt show up in the box score, phenomenal help defender. You guys can even throw Ariza in there. Its close for sure!

You guys would really like Ersan, he's a serious beast at times.

Maybe I watched a different playoff series than you, but I don't remember LRMAM giving LeBron too much trouble in the playoffs. Am I wrong about that?

What is LRMAM?

Luc Richard Mbah a Moute. Apparently the longer Ricky Ticky Tavi name was taken.

[Deivy202]

Ersan is a damn good player, he can put up 25/10 any given night and is one of the best shooters at the 4 I've seen.

His defense is not that bad, he is great at taking the charge. Also a great rebounder, I'd say his value is around the 5th pick in this draft. He'll be really good for you guys for a few years if this trade goes down, don't want to see him go as a Bucks fan at all.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ersan_ily ... stats.html
Look at some of those games he was putting up consistently the second half of the season, he was slumping hard for the first month or so for whatever reason. Im guessing it was because of Skiles, because Scott Skiles is crazy.

Lol you make it sound like he's a top 5 forward. Anyone can have a monster game on any given night. I like Ersan, but I see his value being more like...7-9 in this draft.

Other than Noel bro this is a weak draft we are forcing to overrate including my self. Porter has potentials but he isn't that great you have bennett who has injury concerns and also doesn't pass the ball around with no jump shots either and isnt that good of a defender he is just a scorer tho . Zeller is basically trying to develop into a Ilyasova type of player and than yours trully Noel has big injury concerns and is too skinny .


Just being honest I like these players but we probably end up getting a decent player or if anything atleast a starter at SF.

Either way i think we make playoffs next year only concern is how this reflects to our cap .

[Deivy202]

I also dont see the problem we get a young player when nene and okefor are very well over 30 and are on a decline with injury history. We are basically getting a need at PF which is what the trade is about and also get a 15th pick who can end up starting and very well play good for us its been shown before its not like it hasn't.

So IDK why you guys feel its a horrible deal just because you wana keep two bigman who are very well on the end of there careers in two years maybe.

Id say do it why not .....................you guys dont like any trade till when we dont do it look what happens. Harden explodes , rudy gay ends up better with the raptors, Josh Smith ended up beast mode later towards season i mean come on.

Also hes 26 and hasnt reached his peak quite yet while the dude had a inconsistent PG I feel Wall will benefit him more . I also think we can get Shabazz Muhummad and possibly a decent SF in FA but either way i think Webster isn't bad hes enough to start for a while till we find that guy.

letsj ust see how things go.

[deneem4]

Hes an older klay thompson...and we would trade tht 3rd pick in a heart beat for klay....miami had birdman, hes a top 7 center like it or nt And miami is miami...everyone except paul george Was embaressed by them...
porter may be the nxt ummm luol deng at best...but how hard is that to come by??...look at jimmy butler, look at iman shumpert...sound exactly lik what people want porter to be...

Ersan had the 4th best 3pt % this yr...2nd last yr

Our development team suck...especially for forwards...
I could understand if we were drafting oladipo, but other than him theres no game changer in this draft with a good acl...

Ersan can change our team...everytime he subs the opp will have to make adjustments...I would even like to see him an vesley at sf and pf combo...

Wait, did I read that right? Birdman is a top 7 center????

Yes he is...hes the only center tht plays with anywhere near the amount of energy as noah...he has a per of 27.4 in the playoffs...hes the only reason indiana didnt beat the heat...he may not score the most or rebound the most but when hes on the floor he has an incredible presence...have you been watching the playoffs????

[H2tObes]

Exactly. So why would we trade Okafor and #3 for #5?

Ersan + 15 + LRMAM+ Udoh is worth the 3 I'd say. Lrmam is an absolutely elite defender, I've seen him give Lebron fits multiple times, good player to have on your team. Udoh is also a really nice player to have on your bench, does a lot of things right on the court, doesnt show up in the box score, phenomenal help defender. You guys can even throw Ariza in there. Its close for sure!

You guys would really like Ersan, he's a serious beast at times.

Maybe I watched a different playoff series than you, but I don't remember LRMAM giving LeBron too much trouble in the playoffs. Am I wrong about that?

No you're not, he had nagging injuries that seemed to slow him down this past season. Not to mention Lebron is just on a totally different level now, I'm talking more about earlier this year and in past seasons for sure. Not this years playoffs, no.

[H2tObes]

Ersan is a damn good player, he can put up 25/10 any given night and is one of the best shooters at the 4 I've seen.

His defense is not that bad, he is great at taking the charge. Also a great rebounder, I'd say his value is around the 5th pick in this draft. He'll be really good for you guys for a few years if this trade goes down, don't want to see him go as a Bucks fan at all.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ersan_ily ... stats.html
Look at some of those games he was putting up consistently the second half of the season, he was slumping hard for the first month or so for whatever reason. Im guessing it was because of Skiles, because Scott Skiles is crazy.

Well damn dude, really considerate of your FO to just let us have this massive allstar. We are just bending you over huh. You whore you.

When did I say that? I'm just trying to tell you guys what I think about Ersan as a Bucks fan, sorry if I rubbed you the wrong way?

[TGW]

Prada did a good summarizing ilyasova a game. His conclusion? Ilyasova is....inconsistent. At everything, shooting included. He's the definition of a role player. You don't give up a lottery pick for that ok d of player, period.

Hopefully grunfeld has learned his lesson from his last disaster.

[nuposse04]

Ersan is a damn good player, he can put up 25/10 any given night and is one of the best shooters at the 4 I've seen.

His defense is not that bad, he is great at taking the charge. Also a great rebounder, I'd say his value is around the 5th pick in this draft. He'll be really good for you guys for a few years if this trade goes down, don't want to see him go as a Bucks fan at all.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ersan_ily ... stats.html
Look at some of those games he was putting up consistently the second half of the season, he was slumping hard for the first month or so for whatever reason. Im guessing it was because of Skiles, because Scott Skiles is crazy.

Lol you make it sound like he's a top 5 forward. Anyone can have a monster game on any given night. I like Ersan, but I see his value being more like...7-9 in this draft.

Other than Noel bro this is a weak draft we are forcing to overrate including my self. Porter has potentials but he isn't that great you have bennett who has injury concerns and also doesn't pass the ball around with no jump shots either and isnt that good of a defender he is just a scorer tho . Zeller is basically trying to develop into a Ilyasova type of player and than yours trully Noel has big injury concerns and is too skinny .


Just being honest I like these players but we probably end up getting a decent player or if anything atleast a starter at SF.

Either way i think we make playoffs next year only concern is how this reflects to our cap .

This draft has no franchise players, but it has guys that could be strong 2/3 options on good teams. Ersan is a strong 3/4 option on a good team. Trading for him is a downgrade in long term potential. Especially considering we lose out on a chance to fill a crucial long term need of either 3/5. I don't mind trading for Ersan so long as there is more incentive.


And if you really want me to rattle off names of guys who I believe have a better then 50% chance of becoming a more impactful player than ersan I'm pretty sure there would be at least 10 guys who have a great chance of becoming just as good, if not better players.

[montestewart]

Ersan is a damn good player, he can put up 25/10 any given night and is one of the best shooters at the 4 I've seen.

His defense is not that bad, he is great at taking the charge. Also a great rebounder, I'd say his value is around the 5th pick in this draft. He'll be really good for you guys for a few years if this trade goes down, don't want to see him go as a Bucks fan at all.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/ersan_ily ... stats.html
Look at some of those games he was putting up consistently the second half of the season, he was slumping hard for the first month or so for whatever reason. Im guessing it was because of Skiles, because Scott Skiles is crazy.

Well damn dude, really considerate of your FO to just let us have this massive allstar. We are just bending you over huh. You whore you.

When did I say that? I'm just trying to tell you guys what I think about Ersan as a Bucks fan, sorry if I rubbed you the wrong way?

Most here probably don't see eye to eye with the majority on your board regarding what would be a good trade. In general, it's nothing personal. Our team has a history rich in blown picks and disastrous trades. When we hear the GM is about to pull the trigger, everyone gets a little twitchy.

[H2tObes]

Well damn dude, really considerate of your FO to just let us have this massive allstar. We are just bending you over huh. You whore you.

When did I say that? I'm just trying to tell you guys what I think about Ersan as a Bucks fan, sorry if I rubbed you the wrong way?

Most here probably don't see eye to eye with the majority on your board regarding what would be a good trade. In general, it's nothing personal. Our team has a history rich in blown picks and disastrous trades. When we hear the GM is about to pull the trigger, everyone gets a little twitchy.

Oh trust me I know how it is, our front office is beyond inept. Just was trying to give my take on Ersan, I definitely like him on your team, but surely can see where you guys are coming from being down on this trade. Just thinks its being far overblown.

[Spool]

Hes an older klay thompson...and we would trade tht 3rd pick in a heart beat for klay....miami had birdman, hes a top 7 center like it or nt And miami is miami...everyone except paul george Was embaressed by them...
porter may be the nxt ummm luol deng at best...but how hard is that to come by??...look at jimmy butler, look at iman shumpert...sound exactly lik what people want porter to be...

Ersan had the 4th best 3pt % this yr...2nd last yr

Our development team suck...especially for forwards...
I could understand if we were drafting oladipo, but other than him theres no game changer in this draft with a good acl...

Ersan can change our team...everytime he subs the opp will have to make adjustments...I would even like to see him an vesley at sf and pf combo...

Wow seriously? Chris Anderson as a top 7 center is perhaps the stupidest thing I've ever heard.

Dwight
Duncan
Gasol
Lopez
Horford
Noah
Hibbert
Monroe
Cousins
Jefferson
Sanders

The list goes on and on.

[nuposse04]

When did I say that? I'm just trying to tell you guys what I think about Ersan as a Bucks fan, sorry if I rubbed you the wrong way?

Most here probably don't see eye to eye with the majority on your board regarding what would be a good trade. In general, it's nothing personal. Our team has a history rich in blown picks and disastrous trades. When we hear the GM is about to pull the trigger, everyone gets a little twitchy.

Oh trust me I know how it is, our front office is beyond inept. Just was trying to give my take on Ersan, I definitely like him on your team, but surely can see where you guys are coming from being down on this trade. Just thinks its being far overblown.

And you're propping him up to be a bonafide star in this league. He's not. He doesn't have the athleticism to do anything other than hit wide open 3s. Prada had an article to break down Ersan, he's streaky and inconsistent. That doesn't net you a number 3 pick. This trade is trash if a team wants to contend. Ersan isn't a guy that you can rely on if you want to be a contender. If you want to defend it bring up a more substantive argument or realize a fair trade would include more value, which the Bucks are incapable of as your only worth while assets are Henson/Sanders.

Also you probably know this better than others...is he really 29? Plz confirm that's nonsense otherwise I'm just going to have more reason to flip a ****.