The Lebron Thread (Pt. 3)

ThaRegul8r · Post #641 » by **ThaRegul8r** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:11 am

SideshowBob wrote:
TheChosen618 wrote:Now I think it's clear that Lebron's best season is 2013. What an amazing game. The guy's jumper was wet tonight like it was all season.

lol wtf?? Don't take this the wrong way at all dude, I don't mean this antagonistically, but you've spent the last 2 months talking about how he's underwhelmed in the playoffs and how 2012 is clearly better. One game was enough to turn that?

I mean I don't even disagree, 2013 is his best season, but how are you letting one game completely flip your view?

This is exactly what I was talking about before. It's the best, then it's not, then it is, then it's not again, then it is again. :roll:

It's ridiculous.

ardee · Post #642 » by **ardee** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:13 am

So, people, where does he rank on your ATL now?

He just kicked out Hakeem on mine, and moved up to 10.

JulesWinnfield · Post #643 » by **JulesWinnfield** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:15 am

During the repeat, the Heat faced elimination 5 times. In those games Lebron

in those 5 games Lebron

35.4 ppg
11.4 rpg
5.2 apg
52.2% FG

SideshowBob · Post #644 » by **SideshowBob** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:17 am

Last 4 games

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MP    PTS    ORB    DRB    TRB    AST    BLK    STL    TO    TS%    GmSco
45.0  31.8   3.3    6.5    9.8    6.8    0.8    2.8    3.0  .575    27.3

toodles23 · Post #645 » by **toodles23** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:18 am

An Unbiased Fan wrote:No way, Lebron was better last year on offense & defense. I think Lebron's struggles shooting in the Finals was a blessing in disguise because it forced him to rely more on his teammates, and that's what turned this series around for the Heat.

Lebron in losses: 19.7 FGA
Lebron in wins: 22.8 FGA

What the hell are you talking about? And no, there is no reasonable way to argue Lebron being better offensively last year. Miami's offense was worlds better this year, and it was primarily because of how much better Lebron was playing.

Ginobili · Post #646 » by **Ginobili** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:19 am

Lebron just ethered a lot of haters souls tonight.

I love it. :lol:

Mutnt · Post #647 » by **Mutnt** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:20 am

To be fair, I do believe 2009 James would've been more equipped to attack the paint (if his jumper was shady, like it has been for the most part of the series) than this version of LeBron.

I don't know, I feel like a lot of people are underestimating the player LeBron was in Cleveland, he was a beast, sometimes it takes a little bit of luck (and teammate production) to win titles.

Vinsanity420 · Post #648 » by **Vinsanity420** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:20 am

Ginobili wrote:Lebron just ethered a lot of haters souls tonight.

I love it.

Your namesake is getting crucified by Spurs fans right about now.

D.Brasco · Post #649 » by **D.Brasco** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:20 am

Ginobili wrote:Lebron just ethered a lot of haters souls tonight.

I love it.

Fitting avi haha.

TheChosen618 · Post #650 » by **TheChosen618** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:20 am

An Unbiased Fan wrote:No way, Lebron was better last year on offense & defense.

Defense? Probably, but as I stated a few pages back it has to do with consistency, not ability though. Lebron is more athletic this season, so he is quicker with his switches, close outs, etc. He is also smarter and more experienced which is always a plus.

Offense? No chance, Lebron was much better this season with his improved jump shot, finishing ability, and ability to get to the basket. I really doubt his post-game declined either. He didn't go to it as much as he should have, but I think that's more so on Spo than on him.

I think Lebron's struggles shooting in the Finals was a blessing in disguise because it forced him to rely more on his teammates, and that's what turned this series around for the Heat.

Lebron shooting struggled in the Finals and it was all on him, but overall he could have played much better had Wade not played. Wade was just getting in his way and forcing the Spurs to be able to load up on him. It took away Lebron's biggest strength which is driving to the basket.

As the stat showed before Game 7, the Heat are WAY better with Lebron and without Wade and it's because they surround him with shooters when Wade is out.

Wade has been his problem.

Ginobili · Post #651 » by **Ginobili** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:22 am

Vinsanity420 wrote:
Ginobili wrote:Lebron just ethered a lot of haters souls tonight.

I love it.

Your namesake is getting crucified by Spurs fans right about now.

Yeah, I know.

Bit unfair though.

toodles23 · Post #652 » by **toodles23** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:23 am

ardee wrote:So, people, where does he rank on your ATL now?

He just kicked out Hakeem on mine, and moved up to 10.

Jordan
Russell
Kareem
Magic
Duncan
Hakeem
Bird
Shaq
Lebron
Kobe

I could change this order around a lot with pretty much everybody, though. Just made this list off the top of my head.

SweetTouch · Post #653 » by **SweetTouch** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:23 am

shut down Parker

ethered them offensively

2 of his 5 starters scored 0 total points

crown him

ThatsWhatIShved · Post #654 » by **ThatsWhatIShved** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:23 am

Trolling

JordansBulls · Post #655 » by **JordansBulls** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:26 am

Can't deny him tonight. He did everything possible to win and will the team to win. Gotta give credit where due.

TheChosen618 · Post #656 » by **TheChosen618** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:26 am

ardee wrote:So, people, where does he rank on your ATL now?

He just kicked out Hakeem on mine, and moved up to 10.

MJ
Russell
Magic
Kareem
Wilt
Shaq
Duncan
Lebron
Bird
Hakeem
Kobe

Duncan's play this post-season and in the Finals made me want to push him up some too.

E-Balla · Post #657 » by **E-Balla** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:27 am

Great game from Lebron. Good closer for a good series. Even D Wade showed up.

An Unbiased Fan · Post #658 » by **An Unbiased Fan** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:28 am

TheChosen618 wrote:
An Unbiased Fan wrote:No way, Lebron was better last year on offense & defense.

Defense? Probably, but as I stated a few pages back it has to do with consistency, not ability though. Lebron is more athletic this season, so he is quicker with his switches, close outs, etc. He is also smarter and more experienced which is always a plus.

Offense? No chance, Lebron was much better this season with his improved jump shot, finishing ability, and ability to get to the basket. I really doubt his post-game declined either. He didn't go to it as much as he should have, but I think that's more so on Spo than on him.

I think Lebron's struggles shooting in the Finals was a blessing in disguise because it forced him to rely more on his teammates, and that's what turned this series around for the Heat.

Lebron shooting struggled in the Finals and it was all on him, but overall he could have played much better had Wade not played. Wade was just getting in his way and forcing the Spurs to be able to load up on him. It took away Lebron's biggest strength which is driving to the basket.

As the stat showed before Game 7, the Heat are WAY better with Lebron and without Wade and it's because they surround him with shooters when Wade is out.

Wade has been his problem.

Disagree about Wade. The key switch in the series was Wade playing well at the same time of Lebron.

In general Lebron was great in elimination games, but very ordinary in non-eliminations. His defense dropped off this year some, and Miami's #9 DRtg for the year kinda reflected that. Offensively Lebron was much better at utilizing his cast in 2012, and he picked his spots better.

2012 Lebron wouldn't have gone 7 games against the Pacers or Spurs.

GetItDone · Post #659 » by **GetItDone** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:28 am

If only LeBron gave just 60% effort in 2011 Finals instead of 20%, we could be talking 3 peat right now.

D.Brasco · Post #660 » by **D.Brasco** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:29 am

GetItDone wrote:If only LeBron gave just 60% effort in 2011 Finals instead of 20%, we could be talking 3 peat right now.

Sometime you have to fall to rise...i think it worked for batman?