Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition)

[BadMofoPimp]

I cant be the only one thinking about drinking Hennessy on draft night.

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I am up for some Hennessy. Except, if Henny drafts Noel, then it is cheap Kentucky Bourbon and Old Milwaukee's Best Ice. Because, I won't want to remember the next morning!

[Magicalltheway]

Here is my point of view. To me the ultimate prize should be the 2014 draft. I dont see a single top 5 prospects as a frenchise player. Any trade or pick we make it should be for the 2014. I dont mind staying put with the same roster and accumulate more picks next year. by drafting Wiggins or Smart and multiple picks next year we will be substantially better than we do anyting silly this year. Why not even just trade our 2nd pick this year for unprotected pick next year. just look at the 2014 Mock draft.

[arsenal6106]

Are we more likely to use our huge TPE tomorrow or during FA?

[MAGICian619]

Here is my point of view. To me the ultimate prize should be the 2014 draft. I dont see a single top 5 prospects as a frenchise player. Any trade or pick we make it should be for the 2014. I dont mind staying put with the same roster and accumulate more picks next year. by drafting Wiggins or Smart and multiple picks next year we will be substantially better than we do anyting silly this year. Why not even just trade our 2nd pick this year for unprotected pick next year. just look at the 2014 Mock draft.

I agree with you but no bad team is going to give up an unprotected 2014 pick. Which is why I want to keep the pick, and draft Noel, who has the most long term upside. He won't contribute much this year, thus keeping us near the bottom for next year.

[Swiftraven]

I am curious about the Bledsoe trade.

The guy is maybe 6ft tall and his assists to TO ratio is not impressive.
Pretty sure that everyones complaint about Jameer over the years is that he is too short and shoots too much.

Isn't Bledsoe just a younger Meer?

There isnt even a remote similarity to Bledsoe and Jameer in terms of their abilities. First, Bledsoe has elite, explosive athleticism, he's a very good perimeter defender, He's 6'0.25 without shoes 6'1.5 with shoes. He's not a good three point shooter so he doesnt "shoot too much" he's actually more inclined to drive the ball. The only similarity is that they're both "scoring" PG's.

Jameer is the better passer and shooter than Bledsoe.

The problem is ability versus production. Having the ability to do things doesn't mean he actually does them.

If Jameer is a better passer and shooter...not a whole lot left other than defense and if he is that short he will get abused by larger points, just like Jameer.

If it goes through, hopefully his pg skills will get better with playing time.

Now, my other question is whether we end up being a player for Dallas's 13th pick.
Trading a 2nd rounder and taking on Marion and the 13th sounds good to me. Marion is an expiring and fits into the Dwight TPE. That deal would save Dallas between 10 and 11 million off their cap this summer and would net us an expiring and the 13th pick. Doesn't hurt out cap long term and gets us 2 assets.

[Swiftraven]

Here is my point of view. To me the ultimate prize should be the 2014 draft. I dont see a single top 5 prospects as a frenchise player. Any trade or pick we make it should be for the 2014. I dont mind staying put with the same roster and accumulate more picks next year. by drafting Wiggins or Smart and multiple picks next year we will be substantially better than we do anyting silly this year. Why not even just trade our 2nd pick this year for unprotected pick next year. just look at the 2014 Mock draft.

I agree with you but no bad team is going to give up an unprotected 2014 pick. Which is why I want to keep the pick, and draft Noel, who has the most long term upside. He won't contribute much this year, thus keeping us near the bottom for next year.

I do not see any team at all trading 2014 picks for anything this year (even protected).
Unprotected is out of the question, too easy for a injury to derail even the best teams.

[Rick Rolled]

Andy Katz ‏@ESPNAndyKatz 3m
Cody Zeller said Orlando had no idea what they would do two days before the draft. He was with the Magic and said he fits in well there.

[Def Swami]

Andy Katz ‏@ESPNAndyKatz 1h
Victor Oladipo said he has heard Minnesota trying to get him higher up in top five. Worked out at Orl, Phx, Cleve (NO and Minn watched him).

Andy Katz ‏@ESPNAndyKatz 5m
Cody Zeller said Orlando had no idea what they would do two days before the draft. He was with the Magic and said he fits in well there.

[Optimus_Steel]

Andy Katz ‏@ESPNAndyKatz 3m
Cody Zeller said Orlando had no idea what they would do two days before the draft. He was with the Magic and said he fits in well there.

Of course they are not going to tell him anything lol.

[Rick Rolled]

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 2m
There's a growing belief that Cody Zeller is seriously in play at No. 4 to the Bobcats along with Alex Len, Anthony Bennett & Ben McLemore

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 53s
Bobcats GM Rich Cho is a big Zeller fan. He's pushing that direction but getting resistance.

[Blue_and_Whte]

I am curious about the Bledsoe trade.

The guy is maybe 6ft tall and his assists to TO ratio is not impressive.
Pretty sure that everyones complaint about Jameer over the years is that he is too short and shoots too much.

Isn't Bledsoe just a younger Meer?

There isnt even a remote similarity to Bledsoe and Jameer in terms of their abilities. First, Bledsoe has elite, explosive athleticism, he's a very good perimeter defender, He's 6'0.25 without shoes 6'1.5 with shoes. He's not a good three point shooter so he doesnt "shoot too much" he's actually more inclined to drive the ball. The only similarity is that they're both "scoring" PG's.

Jameer is the better passer and shooter than Bledsoe.

The problem is ability versus production. Having the ability to do things doesn't mean he actually does them.

If Jameer is a better passer and shooter...not a whole lot left other than defense and if he is that short he will get abused by larger points, just like Jameer.
If it goes through, hopefully his pg skills will get better with playing time.

Now, my other question is whether we end up being a player for Dallas's 13th pick.
Trading a 2nd rounder and taking on Marion and the 13th sounds good to me. Marion is an expiring and fits into the Dwight TPE. That deal would save Dallas between 10 and 11 million off their cap this summer and would net us an expiring and the 13th pick. Doesn't hurt out cap long term and gets us 2 assets.

Have...Have you actually watched Bledsoe play?

[Blue_and_Whte]

Andy Katz ‏@ESPNAndyKatz 3m
Cody Zeller said Orlando had no idea what they would do two days before the draft. He was with the Magic and said he fits in well there.

Of course they are not going to tell him anything lol.

Right, Why does Zeller think he's privy to that info?

[OrlDave]

Andy Katz ‏@ESPNAndyKatz 3m
Cody Zeller said Orlando had no idea what they would do two days before the draft. He was with the Magic and said he fits in well there.

How I envision this going down...

Rob: Cody, thanks for the workout. Any questions?
Cody: Who are you guys thinking of drafting?
Rob: Well we aren't completely sure yet, could be anyone (wink, wink).
Cody: Hang on, I gotta send out a tweet.
Rob: /facepalm

[cedric76]

Burke only work out with 3 teams

Orl - No - phx



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[RYgoBOOM]

There isnt even a remote similarity to Bledsoe and Jameer in terms of their abilities. First, Bledsoe has elite, explosive athleticism, he's a very good perimeter defender, He's 6'0.25 without shoes 6'1.5 with shoes. He's not a good three point shooter so he doesnt "shoot too much" he's actually more inclined to drive the ball. The only similarity is that they're both "scoring" PG's.

Jameer is the better passer and shooter than Bledsoe.

The problem is ability versus production. Having the ability to do things doesn't mean he actually does them.

If Jameer is a better passer and shooter...not a whole lot left other than defense and if he is that short he will get abused by larger points, just like Jameer.
If it goes through, hopefully his pg skills will get better with playing time.

Now, my other question is whether we end up being a player for Dallas's 13th pick.
Trading a 2nd rounder and taking on Marion and the 13th sounds good to me. Marion is an expiring and fits into the Dwight TPE. That deal would save Dallas between 10 and 11 million off their cap this summer and would net us an expiring and the 13th pick. Doesn't hurt out cap long term and gets us 2 assets.

Have...Have you actually watched Bledsoe play?

Clearly he hasn't lol.

Bledsoe abused by other PGs? lololol

[Optimus_Steel]

Andy Katz ‏@ESPNAndyKatz 3m
Cody Zeller said Orlando had no idea what they would do two days before the draft. He was with the Magic and said he fits in well there.

How I envision this going down...

Rob: Cody, thanks for the workout. Any questions?
Cody: Who are you guys thinking of drafting?
Rob: Well we aren't completely sure yet, could be anyone (wink, wink).
Cody: Hang on, I gotta send out a tweet.
Rob: /facepalm

Please someone post the Hennigan cell phone sniff gif. It works with just about anything.

[Rick Rolled]

An analysis of their head to head match-up early in the season.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBfXSZyUzg0[/youtube]

[MMFla]

I was all for Marcus Smart in the start of the season until he returned to school now one day to the draft my order has changed by the minute. 1. Noel 2. Dipo 3. BMac 4. Zeller, the top three I like for the 2 spot the Zeller pick is if we trade back and if end up trading Drew in the trade for Bledsoe.

[Swiftraven]

The problem is ability versus production. Having the ability to do things doesn't mean he actually does them.

If Jameer is a better passer and shooter...not a whole lot left other than defense and if he is that short he will get abused by larger points, just like Jameer.
If it goes through, hopefully his pg skills will get better with playing time.

Now, my other question is whether we end up being a player for Dallas's 13th pick.
Trading a 2nd rounder and taking on Marion and the 13th sounds good to me. Marion is an expiring and fits into the Dwight TPE. That deal would save Dallas between 10 and 11 million off their cap this summer and would net us an expiring and the 13th pick. Doesn't hurt out cap long term and gets us 2 assets.

Have...Have you actually watched Bledsoe play?

Clearly he hasn't lol.

Bledsoe abused by other PGs? lololol

You can't do anything about size.

Is the sample size on him large enough to show that he won't be posted up and shot over consistently?
That is my concern.

I have watched him play, but not near enough to draw conclusions.

That's why I am asking so people who know him can respond. If you notice, my first post was a question and the rest of my replies were comments and assumptions. The abused by larger point guards comment should not have been a statement, but a concern.

If I knew the answer I wouldn't have asked the original question.

[RYgoBOOM]

Have...Have you actually watched Bledsoe play?

Clearly he hasn't lol.

Bledsoe abused by other PGs? lololol

You can't do anything about size.

Is the sample size on him large enough to show that he won't be posted up and shot over consistently?
That is my concern.

I have watched him play, but not near enough to draw conclusions.

That's why I am asking so people who know him can respond. If you notice, my first post was a question and the rest of my replies were comments and assumptions. The abused by larger point guards comment should not have been a statement, but a concern.

If I knew the answer I wouldn't have asked the original question.

Gotcha

Well from what I've watched and what I gathered from others is that he has elite athleticism which we can definitely see by looking at the guy run around and jump. He is one of the stronger/athletic points in the NBA so I don't think he gets posted up on at all, he'd just bully them back out. Also, he is practically 6'2 ya, but his wingspan is practically 6'8. That easily makes up for that inch or 2 that he doesn't have in height. That and the elevation on his jump covers plenty of ground to contest shots.

I see Bledsoe as a shutdown type PG from the D I've seen him play. I also remember reports of a few NBA PG's saying that out of all the PGs in the NBA that they hate it most when Bledsoe is Ding them up. I forgot what source this was from but I remember it clearly because he's been a guy I've been liking the whole year.