According to Mike McGraw, Aldridge wants the Bulls

[Magilla_Gorilla]

He made the all star game with no DRose for a good chunk of 2 seasons. bulls were still successful, coaches voted him in because of it. With the emergence of butler and DRose back...deng is not an all star this year.

Oh Jesus Christ. The lengths some people go to...

[SteveDobbs]

Does Noah for Aldridge get this deal done?

Of course, which is why it's not happening.

[boozapalooza]

So what do we do with Mirotic? Trade his rights to Portland in the deal? Cause playing behind Taj and Aldridge isnt what we want Mirotic to be doing.

[Former Roy]

You know how Bosh kills the Bulls too? Its on purpose. Thibodeau is playing the odds. He wants opposing big men playing like Bosh and Aldridge do. He is basically daring these guys to beat his defense and from time to time, they do. Over long stretches of time though the stats even out and Thibodeau is proven right.

Since Thibs joined the Bulls, Aldridge:

42points, 8rebounds, 65.2%
33points, 9rebounds, 63.2%
28points, 8rebounds, 47.6%
28points, 8rebounds, 60.9%
18points, 13rebounds, 50%

Average: 29.8ppg, 9.2rebs, 57.3%fg.

Holy SHYT...

[Magilla_Gorilla]

So what do we do with Mirotic? Trade his rights to Portland in the deal? Cause playing behind Taj and Aldridge isnt what we want Mirotic to be doing.

Taj would be gone before Mirotic gets over here.

[randybrown]

My impression is nothing gets done today as the offers from what I've heard aren't enough. They are a lot of pieces and parts but nothing very good. No team wants to give up their all-star for 5 pieces of unproven/average and that is what is coming in so far.

You should stop with the all-star argument.

Deng: 2x allstar
LMA: 2x allstar

[coldfish]

You know how Bosh kills the Bulls too? Its on purpose. Thibodeau is playing the odds. He wants opposing big men playing like Bosh and Aldridge do. He is basically daring these guys to beat his defense and from time to time, they do. Over long stretches of time though the stats even out and Thibodeau is proven right.

Since Thibs joined the Bulls, Aldridge:

42points, 8rebounds, 65.2%
33points, 9rebounds, 63.2%
28points, 8rebounds, 47.6%
28points, 8rebounds, 60.9%
18points, 13rebounds, 50%

Average: 29.8ppg, 9.2rebs, 57.3%fg.

I suspect you would see a lot of games where Bosh lights the Bulls up too. Its the scheme. The scheme works overall though.

[Former Roy]

So what do we do with Mirotic? Trade his rights to Portland in the deal? Cause playing behind Taj and Aldridge isnt what we want Mirotic to be doing.

Taj would be heading out..

Bulls are still after T-Rob

I believe Mirotic is going absolutely NOWHERE, nor would I want him to..

I'd rather trade Noah than Nikola...

[dice]

LMA is significantly better than Noah at taking the least efficient shot in basketball.

This is where we enter the territory of seriously underrating Aldridge.

I agree, Alridge at the very least TAKES the shot. Noah isn't as capable (although he is vastly improved) at anywhere near the volume

when we have to stoop to comparing LMA's jumper to noah's it's low praise indeed

LMA has an average jumper. know who else has an average jumper? carlos boozer. carlos can get that jumper WHENEVER HE WANTS due to the high release and arc. i'm tired of seeing it with carlos and i don't wanna see it in another guy we bring in. and i don't care if another guy makes it look sexier. it's the same result. least efficient shot in basketball, and if you're gonna take it on a consistent basis you damn well better be really good at it. like al horford, chris bosh, etc. it's a short list of guys

at least boozer rebounds well

[dmk08]

So what do we do with Mirotic? Trade his rights to Portland in the deal? Cause playing behind Taj and Aldridge isnt what we want Mirotic to be doing.

Taj would be heading out..

Bulls are still after T-Rob

I believe Mirotic is going absolutely NOWHERE, nor would I want him to..

I'd rather trade Noah than Nikola...

Oh Boy....

[Former Roy]

I stopped reading as soon as he said LaMarcus had an average jumper..

Dude is 6"11 with basically an UNBLOCKABLE shot



I'd rather build around a HEALTHY big that's a true #2 than a #1 and #3 or #4

[Toulouse]

I would do Noah for LMA. And I do love Noah, a LOT. My main concern with Noah is his foot. I don't know if that's always going to be a problem. Staying healthy and on the floor accounts for something in this trade scenario. I think that tips the scales in LMA's favor for me, at least.

[Leslie Forman]

It's pretty hypocritical to criticize LaMarcus Aldridge for his efficiency but then somehow sing the praises of the less efficient Luol Deng.

I suspect you would see a lot of games where Bosh lights the Bulls up too. Its the scheme. The scheme works overall though.

In those five games, the Blazers are 4-1 against the Bulls. For whatever reason Thibs becomes Isiah Thomas against them.

[Chitownbulls]

You know how Bosh kills the Bulls too? Its on purpose. Thibodeau is playing the odds. He wants opposing big men playing like Bosh and Aldridge do. He is basically daring these guys to beat his defense and from time to time, they do. Over long stretches of time though the stats even out and Thibodeau is proven right.

Since Thibs joined the Bulls, Aldridge:

42points, 8rebounds, 65.2%
33points, 9rebounds, 63.2%
28points, 8rebounds, 47.6%
28points, 8rebounds, 60.9%
18points, 13rebounds, 50%

Average: 29.8ppg, 9.2rebs, 57.3%fg.

Wow....he owned us

[Doom]

It's pretty hypocritical to criticize LaMarcus Aldridge for his efficiency but then somehow sing the praises of the less efficient Luol Deng.

I suspect you would see a lot of games where Bosh lights the Bulls up too. Its the scheme. The scheme works overall though.

In those five games, the Blazers are 4-1 against the Bulls. For whatever reason Thibs becomes Isiah Thomas against them.

well leaving LMA open every time he takes a midrange shot that he's basically automatic from is a big contributing factor...

[blumeany]

You know how Bosh kills the Bulls too? Its on purpose. Thibodeau is playing the odds. He wants opposing big men playing like Bosh and Aldridge do. He is basically daring these guys to beat his defense and from time to time, they do. Over long stretches of time though the stats even out and Thibodeau is proven right.

Since Thibs joined the Bulls, Aldridge:

42points, 8rebounds, 65.2%
33points, 9rebounds, 63.2%
28points, 8rebounds, 47.6%
28points, 8rebounds, 60.9%
18points, 13rebounds, 50%

Average: 29.8ppg, 9.2rebs, 57.3%fg.

I suspect you would see a lot of games where Bosh lights the Bulls up too. Its the scheme. The scheme works overall though.

Bosh vs. Bulls in Thibs era:

17/5
7/9
19/5
23/9
7/8
28/5
14/6
17/10
22/12
12/3
17/8
9/5
8/4
16/4
13/9
6/6
9/5
21/19
13/6
10/7

So yeah, a monster game here and there, but not very consistent. Lots of stinkers too. Seems like the scheme is working for Bosh, but not for Aldridge so much.

[Red Larrivee]

I suspect you would see a lot of games where Bosh lights the Bulls up too. Its the scheme. The scheme works overall though.

The scheme plays a part, but you still have to make the shots and score the points. It's not like Aldridge vs. the Bulls is just standing at the elbow shooting jumpers all day.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bgb69NVqgQE[/youtube]

I don't see a scheme that's making him look good, I see a team that flat-out can't guard him. He's doing whatever he wants.

[Chitownbulls]

My impression is nothing gets done today as the offers from what I've heard aren't enough. They are a lot of pieces and parts but nothing very good. No team wants to give up their all-star for 5 pieces of unproven/average and that is what is coming in so far.

You should stop with the all-star argument.

Deng: 2x allstar
LMA: 2x allstar

LMA in the east is a all star every year. He's in the west playing against good bigs every night.

[Ralphb07]

Do I think Aldridge is worth selling the farm for? No. I consider him a fringe All-Star at this point in his career - similar to Hibbert. But I would be willing to part with some combination of Deng, Taj, the Charlotte pick, #20 this year, and maybe a future 1st.

I doubt that gets it done. The best player in that group is Deng (very good) but that is the one place with the most duplication because of Batum except Batum is three years younger. Similar numbers except Batum gets significantly more assists, more blocks and is a much better shooter from 3-pt range. So that asset doesn't help Portland much and the rest isn't enough or in the case of the Charlotte pick, too far down the road.

That's the thing which sucks. If the Blazers didn't have Batum, Deng, Gibson and the Bobcats pick is a strong offer. The problem is Portland does. The thing to me is Deng is very good like you said, so he should be able to net Portland the additional pieces, at least you would think so.

[dice]

I stopped reading as soon as he said LaMarcus had an average jumper..

Dude is 6"11 with basically an UNBLOCKABLE shot

you have to MAKE THE SHOT!

he shoots 41% from midrange. that's average. and if you're taking a lot of those shots your team will suck. face the facts