KG and Pierce to Brooklyn?

[31to6]

the most random thing about tonight is the fact that I LOVE Reggie Evans!!! hahahaha. Gonna be a fun tanking season. Didn't think Ainge would tank but it's looking that way.

Reggie Evans and Sully on the court at the same time = every single rebound

It feels too soon to say it, but I'm excited about finally getting him in green too since for the last 3-5 summers I've been wishing we'd show some low-level FA interest in him. He's coming to a post-apocolyptic wasteland now, but imagine him and Sully **in practice** - damn youngster's going to be learning from the master - we need to update the 'Sully in three years?' thread to say things like "10 and 20".

[Andrew McCeltic]

I don't know how much Wallace struggled in Brooklyn, but he's always been a bad offensive player- he's just out of his mind with defense and hustle. Can't hurt to have a guy like that, and I guarantee you can find some kind of value for him. Even if it's just Okafor's expiring and a future 1st..

[smith2373]

Oh REALY? I suppose you know a few 13 year olds that have nba potential? Do you have a mock for the 2018 draft? What moron thought we would trade two great players for 3 picks over SIX years ANd take a CRAP contract back?

We're a **** rebuilding team. We're not looking to win now. The Celtics will probably trade that pick before 2018 even gets here.

KG and Pierce don't have the great value around the league that you think they have. Quit being a homer. We weren't getting a good prospect back for them, we weren't getting a lottery pick back for them. This is reality. This is the type of offers we were going to get that. There was no way we were going to trade KG/Pierce and not have to back a bad contract or two or not acquire future picks down the line.

I would have taken Jordan and a pick for KG...I would have taken Asik for Pierce....these picks we got tonight will be WORTHLESS. We ALREADY will have our own lottery Picks and high 2nds if we just buy out pierce and let kG retire...and not have to pay Wallace 30 million.


And if watching the best player Cs have had in 20 years get traded for crap makes me a "homer" that's fine. Who's the homer anyway? Explain to me how you root or watch a '16 and '18 draft pick during the next two years?

The NBA isn't the developmental league. They get paid millions to play basketball. Rebuilding is okay and acceptable, but to just throw away KG and pierce to FING Jason Kidd in his 3rd day on the job is completely asinine. Danny blew this one big time.

DeAndre Jordan is overpaid just like Gerald Wallace is overpaid. Omer Asik has a large contract just like Gerald Wallace has a large contract. There was no way we were trading KG/Pierce without having to take big and most likely bad contracts.

You don't have to root for a 2016 or 2018 draft pick. This is 2013 man and we're a rebuilding team that will probably make a **** load of trades within the coming years. We'll probably trade those picks by then. You don't have to root for a pick. Gerald Wallace probably won't last that long on this team. This is the NBA. Just because you trade for something or sign a certain player, doesn't mean you're stuck with them.

Danny didn't blow anything. He got us three first round picks for 37 year old players with large contracts that could potentially play one season and then retire. Contrary to what you want to believe, there really weren't much better trade offers out there.

[tfmiii]

I don't think we can say Gerald Wallace is not movable at this point. Of course, he isn't movable right away. But, let him get some nice minutes on this **** team and he might actually look good. He could give us 14/7. He really isn't that far removed from those numbers. If not, he sticks around for 2 years and he will be movable in year 3 as an expiring contract.

I really wished we would have drafted Shabazz though. On this team, we could have let him run wild. He could have scored 20 inefficient points in his sleep for us. Would have been another great asset.

maybe danny has other plans for SG??

[GreenMachine]

The only thing that could make this worse is signing Bum Smith.

You might want to turn off your internet. I would say there is AT LEAST a 50-50 chance we do. I would say that is the plan anyway...

Rondo/?
AB/Lee
Green/Wallace
Smith/Kelly/Evans/Bass
Sully/Melo

Funny thing is... that is a playoff team.

[GreenMachine]

I don't think we can say Gerald Wallace is not movable at this point. Of course, he isn't movable right away. But, let him get some nice minutes on this **** team and he might actually look good. He could give us 14/7. He really isn't that far removed from those numbers. If not, he sticks around for 2 years and he will be movable in year 3 as an expiring contract.

I really wished we would have drafted Shabazz though. On this team, we could have let him run wild. He could have scored 20 inefficient points in his sleep for us. Would have been another great asset.

maybe danny has other plans for SG??

Yes, he does... he LOVES AB. That's the plan.

[31to6]

Can people stop with this Wiggins garbage already? We understood your position 50,000 words ago.

I hate to break the news to the folks who never want to win a game next year, but Rondo/AB/Green/Sully are going to wins some games. Having those players on the roster means we will not be one of the worst teams in the league.

ACL/shoulder issues/hopefully ok now/back issues. Done. 20-62, not the worst in the league, but let the balls fall where they may.

[PierceFan4ever]

Is this the worst week in Boston sports history?

[exculpatory]

KG just put Ex's house on the market.

LOLOL

On the one hand, it is tragic that the third greatest Celtic of all time & STILL A TOP TIER SF in the NBA at age 35 will finish his brilliant HOF career elsewhere. Paul will pass Hondo and retire a Top 10-15 scorer in NBA history, but Hondo will remain the leading scorer in career Celtic history forever.

On the other hand, Paul & KG added to Deron (who I have ALWAYS thought was a stud & a COMPLETE **** PG), JJ and Lopez can beat Miami next season (and **** all over the KnUCKS).

Meanwhile we will dump Rondo and Green for more assets, and start from scratch with a bushel full of picks and ?Wiggins?.

Warms my heart to see you alive and posting and taking it so well, Ex. I won't be ready to venture NEAR an appreciation thread for KG and **especially** PP tonight..

I'm still amazed at what Pierce did last year - 19/6/5 on decent percentages despite injury - and at what he did every year since 1998:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/players/325 ... pJ4vw9PKB4

His playoffs were rough, but he leaves Boston standing tall, with more ball to play..

1. Thank you very much for your kind words.

2. GREAT MOTHER **** POST about the third best Celtic of all time - STILL OUTSTANDING AT 35.

[Ballerbt]

Is this the worst week in Boston sports history?

i was at the B's game and i knew it was gonna be right when the hawks scored

[Celtic King]

The trade of PP and KG may have paved the way for the next great star from Kansas... Andrew Wiggins... If the Celtics finish 2nd or 3rd in that lottery, Ainge will have some picks to trade to probably move up...

It's a no brainer that Rondo and Green should probably be traded...its just a matter of the proper time.

If we have the #3 pick... I don't care if we trade 10000 picks... there is Zero chance whoever has the #1 is trading it.

And it is NOT a no brainer that Rondo and Green should be traded. They should NOT be traded. Agree to disagree... but it is certainly not a "no brainer".

Next years draft is a once in a generation class, in line with the 2003 draft that had, leBron, Wade Bosh etc. There are maybe 6, 7 or even 8 players coming out next year that could end up franchise players. It is not just about Wiggins even though he is 1st prize!!

[ConnorHenry]

Details:

Garnett waived his no-trade clause after the Nets agreed to fully guarantee the $12 million owed him for the 2014-15 season, the third year of his contract. Prior to the agreement, the Nets could have bought out Garnett for $6 million.

Garnett also was swayed by the chance to join his close friend, Pierce, in Brooklyn where they could play for longtime rival Jason Kidd.

The trade can't be made official by the NBA until July 10.

The trade comes with a heavy cost for the Nets: They face a luxury-tax bill of nearly $80 million. Their payroll will be close to $100 million.

The deal centers around a package that sends Gerald Wallace, Kris Joseph, the expiring deal of Kris Humphries and three future first-round picks (2014, '16 and '18) to the Celtics, sources told Y! Sports. The Celtics also will have the right to trade first-round picks with the Nets in 2017 if the Nets have the higher pick.

Celtics guard Jason Terry joins Garnett and Pierce in the package going to the Nets, sources said. The Nets also will send back Reggie Evans and do a sign-and-trade involving Keith Bogans, a source said.

More at: http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--nets- ... 13145.html

[chum]

Can people stop with this Wiggins garbage already? We understood your position 50,000 words ago.

I hate to break the news to the folks who never want to win a game next year, but Rondo/AB/Green/Sully are going to wins some games. Having those players on the roster means we will not be one of the worst teams in the league.

That team is absolutely dreadful given there is no reason to let Rondo play a game before the all star break. They will score like 60 points a game.

[31to6]

So this means no way shape or form we're getting Josh smith right?

That was the reload plan. Danny brought out the dynamite.

Danny tried trading for him several months ago and getting rid of Pierce and KG.

If I'm proven wrong I'll certainly own up to it. But I'd wager we're targeting the 2014 lottery more than Smith or Millsap or anyone else at this point.

[sully00]

I don't know how much Wallace struggled in Brooklyn, but he's always been a bad offensive player- he's just out of his mind with defense and hustle. Can't hurt to have a guy like that, and I guarantee you can find some kind of value for him. Even if it's just Okafor's expiring and a future 1st..

How is Wallace a bad offensive player? He was terrible last year but his is a guy who has put up 18-19 ppg shooting over 50% from the field, he doesn't turn the ball over and he gets to the line. If Josh Smith would play like Gerald Wallace he would be the MVP of the league.

No doubt that if he is healthy and gets the minutes he will put up his usual 15/8.

[StojkoVrankovic]

Can people stop with this Wiggins garbage already? We understood your position 50,000 words ago.

I hate to break the news to the folks who never want to win a game next year, but Rondo/AB/Green/Sully are going to wins some games. Having those players on the roster means we will not be one of the worst teams in the league.

ACL/shoulder issues/hopefully ok now/back issues. Done. 20-62, not the worst in the league, but let the balls fall where they may.

There are just a bunch of teams that have nothing, not sure people have looked around the league at some of these rosters

[Celtic King]

honestly how the hell do we play gerald wallace and jeff green together?? they are the same player, except green is much smarter. there has to be future moves, and wallace is an unmovable contract. i just dont understand this at all for 25-30 range picks

Maybe we don't play them together, maybe we don't. I think its pretty much irrelevant at this point.

The 25-30 range is something we have no idea about right now. The 2014 pick will probably be in that range. BUT, what about 2016 and 2018. Garnett and Pierce are probably done by 2016 with the rest of their roster adding 2 more years of age. The 2018 could be a great pick by that time.

We are in total rebuild. We are in total suck mode. I don't believe there is a desire to be competitive next year, which makes our current roster irrelevant. Its about stacking assets. 4 first round picks out of Doc, KG, and Pierce is a nice hall at this point in their careers. We also net an expiring contract with Humphries.

I don't think we could do much better. Most of the board was ready for us to suck it up right? This is how you do it.

BUT, i fail to see how they are the same player. They are pretty different IMO. But, once again, its irrelevant.

I think Rondo sits out a big portion of the year and we suck it up, adding a great draft pick to the asset pool.

Plus our own pick which is likely to be in the 1-6 range.

[grindtime22]

If Rondo plays the majority of this season, we will win games. BUT, i'm not so sure that is going to happen. I'm sure Danny no longer expects Rondo to be ready for training camp.

[Celtics_Champs]

I understand the hatred of a 5-8 (?) playoff team of Rondo/AB/Green/Smith/Sully and others, but I don't want to tank for wiggins either. Mainly because I don't see it working out in our favor. Celtics aren't that lucky.

[bigboi]

Are we allowed to trade Wallace?