LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2

[TylerB]

If you want equal value for Aldridge its Boozer plus picks--like it or not. Personally, I'd give up Booz, Mirotic OR CHA pick, Bulls 2014 1st. Take it or leave it.

Noooo this is how you know there's no valid comparison between the two. Anything centered around Boozer is not even close.

That's not even an argument. Its simply a statement that you say is true..because you say so. I disagree. I do not have to go far to see what Boozer is capable of doing and its not far off from Aldridge--like it or not.

Well its not equal value because Boozer is like 5 years older. But as far as value for the upcoming season in a vacuum it is pretty close.

Portland certainly isn't interested in Boozer because of his age

[Tenchi Ryu]

I honestly wonder if people here even care about Portland getting at least somewhat equal value in return.

In this league you rarely get equal value in a trade for a guy that wants out? So why should we offer equal value to Portland?

That doesn't mean we get to commit daylight robbery though. We aren't the only team that would like LMA, and with a laughable offer, they have every right to tell us to go to hell and choose another team to deal with.

[Jimmy Forums]

If you want equal value for Aldridge its Boozer plus picks--like it or not. Personally, I'd give up Booz, Mirotic OR CHA pick, Bulls 2014 1st. Take it or leave it.

Noooo this is how you know there's no valid comparison between the two. Anything centered around Boozer is not even close.

That's not even an argument. Its simply a statement that you say is true..because you say so. I disagree. I do not have to go far to see what Boozer is capable of doing and its not far off from Aldridge--like it or not.

I wasn't gonna make an argument. You shouldn't need convinced.

[TylerB]

I also think Taj and Mirotic and picks is a shortsighted move on our part. It doesn't make us that much better and makes us way less versatile and mortgages the future a little.

In the playoffs Taj Gibson is a valuable player. He can give minutes against any team and any matchup. Like watching the finals they got to a point where Splitter, their starting center, was basically unplayable because of the matchup and it really hurt them because when they took Duncan out in those last two games Miami would always immediately go on a run so Duncan couldn't rest.

Why give up Taj who can give 25 minutes against anyone in theory if need be when the guy you are getting doesn't even fit into the teams identity of tough defense and hard play.

[BIGGIEsmalls 23]

I honestly wonder if people here even care about Portland getting at least somewhat equal value in return.

In this league you rarely get equal value in a trade for a guy that wants out? So why should we offer equal value to Portland?

That doesn't mean we get to commit daylight robbery though. We aren't the only team that would like LMA, and with a laughable offer, they have every right to tell us to go to hell and choose another team to deal with.

Then, LMA threatens to not re-sign with that other team.

Every day that passes......his contract gets shorter & his power GROWS.

[Mech Engineer]

I honestly wonder if people here even care about Portland getting at least somewhat equal value in return.

In this league you rarely get equal value in a trade for a guy that wants out? So why should we offer equal value to Portland?

That doesn't mean we get to commit daylight robbery though. We aren't the only team that would like LMA, and with a laughable offer, they have every right to tell us to go to hell and choose another team to deal with.

That's the challenge. You definitely don't want to give dollar back for a dollar but also not try to scam them with paying 20 cents for a dollar. The team which figures out the right value to give back when the player wants out comes out as the winner.

[Leto]

"I shouldn't need convinced" is also not an argument.

[stepbackjftw]

In this league you rarely get equal value in a trade for a guy that wants out? So why should we offer equal value to Portland?

That doesn't mean we get to commit daylight robbery though. We aren't the only team that would like LMA, and with a laughable offer, they have every right to tell us to go to hell and choose another team to deal with.

Then, LMA threatens to not re-sign with that other team.

Every day that passes......his contract gets shorter & his power GROWS.

but he also gets older, once players hit 30 they are on a decline

[BIGGIEsmalls 23]

^^^If that's the case, no team would be calling Portland asking for him.

He only has two years left on his contract. Any team that attempts to trade assets for him will most certainly re-sign him to a new contract. The teams that want him today are not worried about his age today, so they wouldn't be worried in two years from today.

[Chitownbulls]

Aldridge an Boozer comparisons are really bad....Aldridge is a wayyy better player

Really want Aldridge on this team, a young big to grow with Rose is exactly what we need to help get us to the ship.

[dice]

Aldridge an Boozer comparisons are really bad....Aldridge is a wayyy better player

unfortunately there's no evidence to back up that assertion other than the prettiness of his shot or post moves. 'cause that prettiness certainly isn't translating into buckets frequently enough

[BR0D1E86]

Says you. I disagree, obviously.

Amare did not put up 16/10 with a 17 PER this season. Boozer did and led us to a playoff birth.

Boozer was apart of a team attack that helped lead the Bulls to a playoff birth.

Boozer does not have positive value as a trade asset. Neither does Amar'e. If Knicks fans were like "Amar'e/picks for Noah" everyone here would laugh it off.

Boozer + picks is just as laughable for Aldridge.

I don't think it's nearly as laughable, but I'd still laugh at it if I was Portland. And I am neither especially in love with Aldridge nor especially low on Boozer.

[Polynice4Pippen]

Man, people clearly forgetting tall the Boozer no shows in the playoffs. When's Boozer's at his best, yeah Aldridge isn't THAT much better than Boozer. But Boozer is inconsistent Shocking, I know. Boozer's been benched in 4th quarters of playoff games, finished with single digit points in playoff games. He stunk against Philly in 2012 when we needed him. He puts up a strong game, then no shows, strong game, then no shows. Boozer is a consistent rebounder and passer, and a consistently awful defender. But his offense comes and goes and is far too unpredictable to ever be depended upon. Aldridge is just a more consistent basketball player than Boozer, he has the length to not be bothered by taller PF's in the playoffs, he has a go to move that he can get off any time down the floor. Aldridge is built for playoff consistency in a way Boozer isn't.

[Jajwanda]

Any interest in Dwight in a S and T involving Noah+Deng?

[IWannaGoHIGHER]

Any interest in Dwight in a S and T involving Noah+Deng?

Nope.

[TheAdmiral]

What makes you think Dwight would be interested in joining Chicago?

[red222]

Any interest in Dwight in a S and T involving Noah+Deng?

are Dwight's balls coming with him? PAUSE

[Jajwanda]

What makes you think Dwight would be interested in joining Chicago?

Why wouldn't he? He has a good friend in Boozer, a large town to play in, a winner, a good surrounding cast. The Bulls with Howard are pretty damn good and there's no question Dwight has been a pain for LeBron to drive in against throughout his career.

Dwight makes Miami's job much more difficult both on the defensive end as well as on offense because of the need to swarm Dwight off the pass. Noah can be guarded by Bosh, Dwight not so much. You need tremendous attention by LeBron/Wade. That leaves a bunch of shooters open.

Deng's future is limited in Chicago meaning that it's really Noah to Dwight.

[TylerB]

Aldridge an Boozer comparisons are really bad....Aldridge is a wayyy better player

There is no real statistical or observational support to back this up. You just know of Aldridge as that good player on the west coast who you never see play. You don't take into account his defensive and rebounding deficiencies and you aren't aware that his scoring isn't as efficient as you think.

[TheAdmiral]

I don't for a second buy Dwight's top priority is to win. Dude has proved time and time again he's a diva. Also, with Rose being the top dog in Chicago, he'd have to settle for a 'lesser' role, which he obviously doesn't want.