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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2 

Post#1141 » by ChiTownBallin » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:35 am

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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2 

Post#1142 » by Polynice4Pippen » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:36 am

TylerB wrote:And to reply to your next comically uninformed post, saying a guy averaged 20 points with a better FG% doesn't mean he was better. Especially when you consider his TS% and the fact that he can't rebound.


How is a statistical fact "comically uninformed"? To be able to score more points on a better field goal percentage is kind of a big deal. Especially for a team looking for more offensive weapons, more scoring.
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2 

Post#1143 » by Polynice4Pippen » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:37 am

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Leto wrote:Tyler has already dispelled the myth that is Aldridge. Aldridge hasn't been any better than Boozer in the playoffs and 7 rebounds is not going to cut it. You cannot get 7 rebounds a game in the playoffs as the starting PF. And, he's not the only example. How about Bosh this post season? 12/7 on 46% Suck. David West? 16/7 46% suck Gasol? 2 suck games out of 4. It's just the way the game goes and especially in the playoffs against really good defense.

The point is not to show that Boozer is better than Aldridge--I don't think he is--but he's not far behind him. The difference is not Luol Deng plus picks etc.


The bolded part is a flat out lie. Aldridge averaged 20 points per game on a better field goal percentage at a much younger age in postseason play than Boozer during his time with the Bulls. Facts are your friends.


Nope. You're wrong.


Thanks for that. I'll let the facts know that they are incorrect. :lol:
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2 

Post#1144 » by Tenchi Ryu » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:42 am

ChiTownBallin wrote:http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2013/06/trail_blazers_lamarcus_aldridge_i_havent_demanded.html

can we please move on?

"I didn't ask for a trade"

Of course he didn't, he so far has just let it be known indirectly he is unhappy.

“I’m looking forward to who we sign in free agency to make us better,”

AKA, sign someone good or I want out.
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2 

Post#1145 » by Doom » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:43 am

rotoworld's take:

LaMarcus Aldridge refuted rumors that he has demanded a trade from the Blazers.
A previous report stated that Aldridge would want to be traded to the Bulls or Mavericks if the Blazers don't significantly upgrade their roster, and he cleared up some misunderstandings on Saturday. "I haven't demanded a trade or cleared a way for my departure," Aldridge said. "It's not true. That's all I am saying right now." He also expressed "optimism" about Portland's future in an email sent to the Oregonian, and we don't expect him to openly lobby for a trade until the Blazers make their moves in free agency.
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2 

Post#1146 » by ChiTownBallin » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:43 am

Tenchi Ryu wrote:
ChiTownBallin wrote:http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2013/06/trail_blazers_lamarcus_aldridge_i_havent_demanded.html

can we please move on?

"I didn't ask for a trade"

Of course he didn't, he so far has just let it be known indirectly he is unhappy.

“I’m looking forward to who we sign in free agency to make us better,”

AKA, sign someone good or I want out.

any idea what the Blazers can afford this summer?
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2 

Post#1147 » by red222 » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:44 am

Doom wrote:rotoworld's take:

LaMarcus Aldridge refuted rumors that he has demanded a trade from the Blazers.
A previous report stated that Aldridge would want to be traded to the Bulls or Mavericks if the Blazers don't significantly upgrade their roster, and he cleared up some misunderstandings on Saturday. "I haven't demanded a trade or cleared a way for my departure," Aldridge said. "It's not true. That's all I am saying right now." He also expressed "optimism" about Portland's future in an email sent to the Oregonian, and we don't expect him to openly lobby for a trade until the Blazers make their moves in free agency.

We believe you LMA :lol:
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2 

Post#1148 » by Mech Engineer » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:45 am

Doom wrote:rotoworld's take:

LaMarcus Aldridge refuted rumors that he has demanded a trade from the Blazers.
A previous report stated that Aldridge would want to be traded to the Bulls or Mavericks if the Blazers don't significantly upgrade their roster, and he cleared up some misunderstandings on Saturday. "I haven't demanded a trade or cleared a way for my departure," Aldridge said. "It's not true. That's all I am saying right now." He also expressed "optimism" about Portland's future in an email sent to the Oregonian, and we don't expect him to openly lobby for a trade until the Blazers make their moves in free agency.


They are getting Lebron or Howard to change his mind :wink:
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2 

Post#1149 » by Tenchi Ryu » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:46 am

ChiTownBallin wrote:any idea what the Blazers can afford this summer?

Not sure, but if anything, LMA's camp is letting Portland know he ain't feeling this rebuilding stage, he wants to win now. And with what they have, they are a legit solid role-player from being serious contenders. Picking up Aaron Affalo would really work wonders for them.

And they might want to touch that Bench up a bit.
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2 

Post#1150 » by Polynice4Pippen » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:49 am

red222 wrote:
Doom wrote:rotoworld's take:

LaMarcus Aldridge refuted rumors that he has demanded a trade from the Blazers.
A previous report stated that Aldridge would want to be traded to the Bulls or Mavericks if the Blazers don't significantly upgrade their roster, and he cleared up some misunderstandings on Saturday. "I haven't demanded a trade or cleared a way for my departure," Aldridge said. "It's not true. That's all I am saying right now." He also expressed "optimism" about Portland's future in an email sent to the Oregonian, and we don't expect him to openly lobby for a trade until the Blazers make their moves in free agency.

We believe you LMA :lol:


LaMarcus Aldridge wrote:That's all I am saying right now.


:lol: Straight from the Carmelo, Dwight, Chris Paul handbook. This thing isn't going away anytime soon. Stay on it, Gar/Pax.
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2 

Post#1151 » by Leto » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:51 am

Thanks for that. I'll let the facts know that they are incorrect. :lol:


I don't know if you know this but the stats are on-line. Either you don't understand stitistics or you're looking at different statistics. Either way, you're wrong.
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2 

Post#1152 » by Mech Engineer » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:51 am

Tenchi Ryu wrote:
ChiTownBallin wrote:any idea what the Blazers can afford this summer?

Not sure, but if anything, LMA's camp is letting Portland know he ain't feeling this rebuilding stage, he wants to win now. And with what they have, they are a legit solid role-player from being serious contenders. Picking up Aaron Affalo would really work wonders for them.

And they might want to touch that Bench up a bit.


C'mon...Affalo will not make them contend. Best case they might take a team to six games in the first round of the playoffs. They were a 33 win team. But, they are not Sacramento bad. The league is too top-heavy in both conferences that most other teams have no chance of getting into second round of the playoffs unless they add superstars in FA/trades.
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2 

Post#1153 » by Polynice4Pippen » Sun Jun 30, 2013 12:54 am

Tenchi Ryu wrote:
ChiTownBallin wrote:any idea what the Blazers can afford this summer?

Not sure, but if anything, LMA's camp is letting Portland know he ain't feeling this rebuilding stage, he wants to win now. And with what they have, they are a legit solid role-player from being serious contenders. Picking up Aaron Affalo would really work wonders for them.

And they might want to touch that Bench up a bit.


The battle for those final playoff seeds in the West is so tough though. Dallas will be back in the playoff mix whether they get Howard or not. Minnesota if they can stay healthy with Rubio and Love could make a playoff run. Utah with Trey Burke running the show. New Orleans with Jrue Holiday and Anthony Davis. Lillard should continue to grow with Aldridge and Batum, but they could easily miss the playoffs again. And they certainly aren't ready to compete on any serious level in the West with the OKC's and San Antonio's.
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2 

Post#1154 » by Ralphb07 » Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:03 am

Polynice4Pippen wrote:
red222 wrote:
Doom wrote:rotoworld's take:


We believe you LMA :lol:


LaMarcus Aldridge wrote:That's all I am saying right now.


:lol: Straight from the Carmelo, Dwight, Chris Paul handbook. This thing isn't going away anytime soon. Stay on it, Gar/Pax.



I have not demanded a trade, he never said his agent didn't. The Portland insider said that the Blazers had to make significant roster changes, that is why Aldridge is looking forward to it. That is when he demands publicly. Players first stay quiet until they realize the team is ignoring their wishes and then the media gets involved.

I bring this story up all the time because I think it's awesome. Ford, Stein, etc were talking on Mike and Mike and they were talking about when a GM says I have not talked to such and such team. Ford was saying that yes the GM might not of, but the asst gm, etc did. He was saying that GM's aren't the ones who always call and initiate things, that people below will and when stuff gets serious the big dogs get in. So technically the GM is not lying.
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2 

Post#1155 » by weneeda2guard » Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:07 am

fleet wrote:
weneeda2guard wrote:taj, bobcat pick, 2014 pick and our 2014 pick maybe even the rights to miritoc is a deal i think portland cant say no to.

I don't like making assumptions based on rumors, but if Ralph has the hookup, apparently thats just what they did. Said no to Taj, Bobs pick and Mirotic. Portland isn't serious about dealing Aldridge right now and are sitting there like Rick Harrison behind the pawn shop counter treating the Bulls like a desperate character who needs the deal more than Rick does. Rick doesn't care, he isn't the one who walked into the shop.

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you took my deal out of context

i said in the full post we should obtain another lottery pick for next season from a borderline lottery team and we should take a bad contract and use deng to get it

so my deal was taj, rights to miritoc, the newly obtained 2014 lottery pick, our pick and the bobcat pick.

that is a deal i believe they cant say not to

they need that golden goose which is a lottery pick. even if it pans out to nothing it has to look like it will in the same way okc thought they got a golden ticket from houston but panned out to nothing. whether it pans out or not we need that type of valuable pick to sway them to let him go.

we dont want to run the risk of many other teams fighting for him. grab him now while the deal is still on the low low.
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2 

Post#1156 » by Polynice4Pippen » Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:08 am

Leto wrote:
Thanks for that. I'll let the facts know that they are incorrect. :lol:


I don't know if you know this but the stats are on-line. Either you don't understand stitistics or you're looking at different statistics. Either way, you're wrong.


One more time.

Aldridge career playoff averages (ages 23, 24, 25): 20/7/2/2, 46% from the field, 5 free throw attempts per game.

Boozer career playoff averages with the Bulls (ages 29, 30, 31): 14/10/2/0, 45% from the field, 3 free throw attempts per game.
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2 

Post#1157 » by KiLleRInStiNcT7 » Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:16 am

I'm sorry I missed it what was the offer from the Bulls to Portland?
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2 

Post#1158 » by red222 » Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:19 am

KiLleRInStiNcT7 wrote:I'm sorry I missed it what was the offer from the Bulls to Portland?

according to Ralph from the Bulls it was Mirotic Gibson and the cat pick
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2 

Post#1159 » by dice » Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:23 am

Polynice4Pippen wrote:
Leto wrote:
Thanks for that. I'll let the facts know that they are incorrect. :lol:


I don't know if you know this but the stats are on-line. Either you don't understand stitistics or you're looking at different statistics. Either way, you're wrong.


One more time.

Aldridge career playoff averages (ages 23, 24, 25): 20/7/2/2, 46% from the field, 5 free throw attempts per game.

Boozer career playoff averages with the Bulls (ages 29, 30, 31): 14/10/2/0, 45% from the field, 3 free throw attempts per game.

it's much more instructive to use carlos's entire playoff career (age 25-31) due to sample sizing. and his career avg. per 36 is:

18/11 on 52% TS

aldridge's VERY limited playoff averages per 36 (3 losses in first round) are:

18/6 on 51% TS

both players have inferior numbers in the postseason, but i'm willing to throw out LMA's postseason failures due to small sample size

the only reasonable conclusion is that carlos boozer has indeed fared significantly less well in the postseason
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Re: LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2 

Post#1160 » by dice » Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:24 am

red222 wrote:
KiLleRInStiNcT7 wrote:I'm sorry I missed it what was the offer from the Bulls to Portland?

according to Ralph from the Bulls it was Mirotic Gibson and the cat pick

if that's true and portland turned it down...thank you portland GM!

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