Trade Thread (REVENGE OF THE NERDS II: NERDS IN PARADISE)

[watch1958]

hahah Yea jack, landry and barnes made our team special. Career journeymen and barnes, this is a joke right?

When did I ever say this years team was special?

Dwight + the White Owls. First injury hits and that team is weak and unhappy. That worked out so well this year for the Lakers.

[youngthegiant]

How do you guys feel about this before I post on the general trade thread

Denver Trades: s&t Iguodala, Kenneth Faried

Golden State Trades: David Lee, Klay Thompson

[Onus]

hahah Yea jack, landry and barnes made our team special. Career journeymen and barnes, this is a joke right?

When did I ever say this years team was special?

Dwight + the White Owls. First injury hits and that team is weak and unhappy. That worked out so well this year for the Lakers.

Anyone with injuries to their core players aren't winning the championship. What's your point?

[Onus]

How do you guys feel about this before I post on the general trade thread

Denver Trades: s&t Iguodala, Kenneth Faried

Golden State Trades: David Lee, Klay Thompson

meh ...

[InWestWeTrust]

How do you guys feel about this before I post on the general trade thread

Denver Trades: s&t Iguodala, Kenneth Faried

Golden State Trades: David Lee, Klay Thompson

I don't think they'll go for it. They'd probably rather let Iggy walk and keep Faried than take on DLee's contract. Denver wants to stay younger I believe.

[watch1958]

hahah Yea jack, landry and barnes made our team special. Career journeymen and barnes, this is a joke right?

When did I ever say this years team was special?

Dwight + the White Owls. First injury hits and that team is weak and unhappy. That worked out so well this year for the Lakers.

Anyone with injuries to their core players aren't winning the championship. What's your point?

Some teams can handle stretches of injuries.

What the Warriors will have left will be built for a collapse. House of cards. No bricks and mortar. No two by fours. No slab. Mentally flimsy.

[turk3d]

When did I ever say this years team was special?

Dwight + the White Owls. First injury hits and that team is weak and unhappy. That worked out so well this year for the Lakers.

Anyone with injuries to their core players aren't winning the championship. What's your point?

Some teams can handle stretches of injuries.

What the Warriors will have left will be built for a collapse. House of cards. No bricks and mortar. No two by fours. No slab. Mentally flimsy.

I think that anyone who can't win with a super team like the Lakers were last year (personnel wise) definitely has to be questioned. It just shows how important chemistry is and that's one thing we seem to have now on this team but there's no guarantee that it will continue if dwight comes aboad which means there's an inherent risk which is the reason we need to be careful in what we give up for him. We don't want to tear down all we've built here these last few years just on a whim.

[and1GS]

At one point in time the Lakers had Malone, Payton, Shaq and Kobe and sucked (albeit not to this level). Do you also heavily question each of them?

I get what you're saying, chemistry is big, but so is talent. They didn't gel becasue there were a lot of big money big personality guys thrown together on a team that a) had been Kobe's for years b) did not have a system in place to take advantage of personnel c) didn't really have a bench and c) had a ton of injuries.

That's not Dwight's fault. He would be added t our core in a system that already works with his style of play. Doesn't hurt that our superstar was teammate of the year or whatever the weird award was, while Kobe was generally asshat of the year. Not trying to make excuses, D12 is obviously a weak person, but witha talent like that you have to accept a little coddling that comes with it.

[turk3d]

At one point in time the Lakers had Malone, Payton, Shaq and Kobe and sucked (albeit not to this level). Do you also heavily question each of them?

I get what you're saying, chemistry is big, but so is talent. They didn't gel becasue there were a lot of big money big personality guys thrown together on a team that a) had been Kobe's for years b) did not have a system in place to take advantage of personnel c) didn't really have a bench and c) had a ton of injuries.

That's not Dwight's fault. He would be added t our core in a system that already works with his style of play. Doesn't hurt that our superstar was teammate of the year or whatever the weird award was, while Kobe was generally asshat of the year. Not trying to make excuses, D12 is obviously a weak person, but witha talent like that you have to accept a little coddling that comes with it.

Yeah, and that's I why I think we do it (at least explore the possibilities, which we are doing), I just don't want us to sell the farm which is doing quite well for itself at the moment with prospects for a pretty bright future as is. I at least want some sort of an exit plan if Dwight doesn't cut it because it sure is a possibility that he won't although worth the risk, depending on how big that risk is.

[Jester_]

Lakers had severe chemistry issues, injuries crippled them (big-4 played like 10 games together all season) and they still made the stacked West playoffs despite an awful start. Dwight wasn't as good as he was in his prime, but he was still the best center in the league.

[and1GS]

At one point in time the Lakers had Malone, Payton, Shaq and Kobe and sucked (albeit not to this level). Do you also heavily question each of them?

I get what you're saying, chemistry is big, but so is talent. They didn't gel becasue there were a lot of big money big personality guys thrown together on a team that a) had been Kobe's for years b) did not have a system in place to take advantage of personnel c) didn't really have a bench and c) had a ton of injuries.

That's not Dwight's fault. He would be added t our core in a system that already works with his style of play. Doesn't hurt that our superstar was teammate of the year or whatever the weird award was, while Kobe was generally asshat of the year. Not trying to make excuses, D12 is obviously a weak person, but witha talent like that you have to accept a little coddling that comes with it.

Yeah, and that's I why I think we do it (at least explore the possibilities, which we are doing), I just don't want us to sell the farm which is doing quite well for itself at the moment with prospects for a pretty bright future as is. I at least want some sort of an exit plan if Dwight doesn't cut it because it sure is a possibility that he won't although worth the risk, depending on how big that risk is.

Just so were on the same page here - what is 'selling the farm' to you?

[KevinMcreynolds]

hahah Yea jack, landry and barnes made our team special. Career journeymen and barnes, this is a joke right?

Are you kidding? The exact reason we were successful is we had high character guys like those three to go along with Steph.

[Onus]

hahah Yea jack, landry and barnes made our team special. Career journeymen and barnes, this is a joke right?

Are you kidding? The exact reason we were successful is we had high character guys like those three to go along with Steph.

Damn there's no way we should be letting those guys go, break the bank and sign them up! No way dwight replaces what they brought. It's not like Dwight has taken a bunch of scrubs to the nba finals before.

[Onus]

When did I ever say this years team was special?

Dwight + the White Owls. First injury hits and that team is weak and unhappy. That worked out so well this year for the Lakers.

Anyone with injuries to their core players aren't winning the championship. What's your point?

Some teams can handle stretches of injuries.

What the Warriors will have left will be built for a collapse. House of cards. No bricks and mortar. No two by fours. No slab. Mentally flimsy.

Ok so Klay hasn't gotten hurt in his career yet, knock on wood. Barnes has had a few bumps or bruises but nothing major. Lee has a few bumps a bruises. Curry plays through ankle sprains. Dwight had one major injury which he came back earlier than expected. Sure seems flimsy to me.

[turk3d]

At one point in time the Lakers had Malone, Payton, Shaq and Kobe and sucked (albeit not to this level). Do you also heavily question each of them?

I get what you're saying, chemistry is big, but so is talent. They didn't gel becasue there were a lot of big money big personality guys thrown together on a team that a) had been Kobe's for years b) did not have a system in place to take advantage of personnel c) didn't really have a bench and c) had a ton of injuries.

That's not Dwight's fault. He would be added t our core in a system that already works with his style of play. Doesn't hurt that our superstar was teammate of the year or whatever the weird award was, while Kobe was generally asshat of the year. Not trying to make excuses, D12 is obviously a weak person, but witha talent like that you have to accept a little coddling that comes with it.

Yeah, and that's I why I think we do it (at least explore the possibilities, which we are doing), I just don't want us to sell the farm which is doing quite well for itself at the moment with prospects for a pretty bright future as is. I at least want some sort of an exit plan if Dwight doesn't cut it because it sure is a possibility that he won't although worth the risk, depending on how big that risk is.

Just so were on the same page here - what is 'selling the farm' to you?

1) Giving up both Barnes and Klay (one or the other, preferably Klay) ideal if there was some way we could keep both
2) Only 1 #1 pick (either 2014 or 2015) + Nedovic (this years #1) and at most a future #2 (but make them squeeze it out of us).
3) I thi8nk we have to give up Bogut. If they don't want him, then Biedrins and/or Jefferson and we use Bogut to get us Klay's replacement. I think that would be enough. We keep Green as backup.
4) Don't let them make us take Nash (unless we're sending him elsewhere in a 3-way).

[and1GS]

Agreed on all counts Turk. This shouldn't be a traditional value for value trade, it should be us throwing some sweetener at LA so Dwight doesn't go to Houston for nothing.

[Onus]

why wouldn't you want nash backing up curry?

[Amazing Curry]

I like Nash but he will kill our cap space for 2014. And he can't play along Curry when Jackson goes small-ball.

[Onus]

sure he can, just go zone like we do when jack is in.

[KevinMcreynolds]

hahah Yea jack, landry and barnes made our team special. Career journeymen and barnes, this is a joke right?

Are you kidding? The exact reason we were successful is we had high character guys like those three to go along with Steph.

Damn there's no way we should be letting those guys go, break the bank and sign them up! No way dwight replaces what they brought. It's not like Dwight has taken a bunch of scrubs to the nba finals before.

Not once person in this thread said break the bank for them. What the hell are you talking about? Also, he brought a team to the finals 4 years ago, how is that applicable to the current situation? He's not the same player anymore and his ego is 10000000x bigger and I think he's added 6 kids and baby mamas since then. Not to mention Hedo, Lewis and Jameer all had career years that year. It wasn't exactly a "team of scrubs".