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Re: Wizards agree to terms with Eric Maynor 

Post#41 » by TGW » Tue Jul 2, 2013 12:50 am

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dckingsfan wrote:Well, at least EG didn't wait 'till the last minute like last year. Not my first choice...


Yes, he's getting much better at finding terrible players.


:lol:

The efficiency at which he scouts and targets unwanted players is uncanny.
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Re: Wizards agree to terms with Eric Maynor 

Post#42 » by Dat2U » Tue Jul 2, 2013 12:52 am

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willbcocks wrote:There was no way we were getting Nate Robinson.


It's sort of sad that this statement rings true. It's sad because Nate Robinson is a career bench player. And yet, to Wizards fans, he seems almost unattainable.


Depressing. This right after the Antawn Jamison rumors. I don't think I take this anymore...

I was saving this bottle of 1800 for something, but oh well :party:
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Re: Wizards agree to terms with Eric Maynor 

Post#43 » by willbcocks » Tue Jul 2, 2013 12:54 am

Dat2U wrote:
miller31time wrote:
willbcocks wrote:There was no way we were getting Nate Robinson.


It's sort of sad that this statement rings true. It's sad because Nate Robinson is a career bench player. And yet, to Wizards fans, he seems almost unattainable.


Depressing. This right after the Antawn Jamison rumors. I don't think I take this anymore...

I was saving this bottle of 1800 for something, but oh well :party:


Oh, we may still get Jamison. Split MLE w/ Webster?
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Re: Wizards agree to terms with Eric Maynor 

Post#44 » by Wizardspride » Tue Jul 2, 2013 12:55 am

2Mas wrote:Wall-Maynor
Beal-?
Porter-Ariza
Nene-??
Okafor-??

You think you guys will resign Webster to play the 2?


Webster will play the 3 while rookie Glen Rice Jr will (more than likely) be the backup 2.

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Re: Wizards agree to terms with Eric Maynor 

Post#45 » by rockymac52 » Tue Jul 2, 2013 12:57 am

I hate to be this pessimistic and negative about a backup PG signing, but I really do not like this signing. I think AJ Price was, is, and will continue to be better than Eric Maynor. Furthermore, I'm pretty sure we could have signed AJ Price on a 1 year deal for less money. I don't understand what the front office had against Price, or rather, what they see in Maynor that they didn't see in Price.

I really dislike the fact that it's a 2 year deal. If he ends up having a really good year for us, he's gone next year because he has a player option and can get more than $2 million a year, or at least can get more guaranteed years, which are important to a fringe NBA player like Maynor, on the open market. If he doesn't do very well, or he's just bleh, then he'll exercise his player option and stay with us when we might not really want him. I don't like that.

Furthermore, we're expected to have a lot of cap space next summer with the Okariza and Ernie's Kids contracts coming off the books. By my calculations, around $20-22 million. If Maynor exercises his player option, then that's just $2 million less that we're going to have to chase after actual quality free agents. If that $2 million comes to haunt us next summer, I will be livid.

Eric Maynor has been one of the most overrated players in the entire league since his rookie season. I don't know what it is, but everyone has always considered him this young, up and coming prospect, but he hasn't performed even halfway decent at any of the 3 teams (!!!) that he's played for in his first 4 seasons. I think everybody still remembers the shot he hit against Duke in the NCAA Tournament, and we still all consider him our hero because let's be real, we all loved seeing Duke lose that game. I also think playing in OKC behind an All-Star PG only added to the hype. It happens every year. Below average role players for championship contenders get over-hyped just because they lucked their way onto a great team.

And everybody clings to his ACL tear and uses it as an excuse for his poor performance, but it's not like he really got that much worse, he was just always very below average to begin with. Then everybody's talking about how he spent the first half of last season recovering from the ACL tear, and then when he went to Portland he started playing well. NO HE DIDN'T!!! He just got more playing time because Portland had arguably the worst bench in basketball last season. His minutes doubled, and as a result, all of his counting stats doubled, and the "common fan" thought that meant he was getting better. Look at his per 36 numbers in Portland vs. the rest of his career - he didn't actually get any better. Yes, he increased his FG% substantially from the first half of the season with OKC... but that's only because his FG% was disgustingly low in OKC - 31.3%. He increased it to 42.2% when he went to Portland. Is that supposed to impress me?

I think this move was somewhat related to the fact that he went to VCU, a local school. The fan base never really connected with AJ Price, and I suspect the front office might have decided to go with a similarly talented player with a local tie, because it could make him a fan favorite from day one, and they'll stick with him even if he struggles, because he went to a local school! Frustrating......

Seriously, look at his year by year ORtg and DRtgs. He has consistently been a putrid offensive player, and a Jamison-esque defensive player. There is literally nothing to get excited about. Unless he helps convince Larry Sanders to sign with us as a RFA next summer, he does nothing for me (but if he does that, he's more than worth this contract haha).

Synergy stats say he is one of the worst pick and roll players in the league, and is also awful in transition. He is a good spot up shooter, to his credit, especially from 3, but that's it. Again, it's just our backup PG, he's probably going to get about 12 MPG, it's not the end of the world. But man oh man was this a weak signing. I'm not falling for the hype. There's a reason why we're his 4th team in 5 years.
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Re: Wizards agree to terms with Eric Maynor 

Post#46 » by truwizfan4evr » Tue Jul 2, 2013 12:59 am

Seems like you can never get excited for any moves on this board no matter who we get there always some type of negative talk happen here even when we drafted porter and Glen Rice jr .
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Re: Wizards agree to terms with Eric Maynor 

Post#47 » by FreckleFace » Tue Jul 2, 2013 1:05 am

Keep hope alive
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Re: Wizards agree to terms with Eric Maynor 

Post#48 » by Dat2U » Tue Jul 2, 2013 1:06 am

Now I wish we had gotten a PG in the 2nd round (Jackson or Wolters) so they could have potentially stolen the backup PG job from Maynor.
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Re: Wizards agree to terms with Eric Maynor 

Post#49 » by dobrojim » Tue Jul 2, 2013 1:06 am

Dat2U wrote:I'll say he looked like a baller at VCU. I don't know about these "flashes" from two years ago. Two years ago, OKC had no problem drafting Reggie Jackson as his replacement so obviously they didn't see many flashes either.



Alright. I'm convinced now that I'd rather they kept AJ who I think gets somewhat
unfairly blamed for 4-28 which he missed a bunch of and was a team effort anyway

I do seem to remember him playing well at OKC and of course in college. Old news.
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Re: Wizards agree to terms with Eric Maynor 

Post#50 » by nuposse04 » Tue Jul 2, 2013 1:08 am

There are problems with every single backup PG on the market...so I bet regardless of who was signed, we'd find a way to tear whoever we signed apart. The being said, Maynor wasn't my first choice...but I'm not gonna drink myself to depression over him. Surround him with shooters and he might find a way to be worth a damn. His bad defense is a little unsettling. I thought Price was a pretty damn good defender last season. I still think Price would make an excellent 3rd string pg but he's probably gone.
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Eric Maynor Agree to 2 year deal 

Post#51 » by hands11 » Tue Jul 2, 2013 1:10 am

TGW wrote:
miller31time wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:Well, at least EG didn't wait 'till the last minute like last year. Not my first choice...


Yes, he's getting much better at finding terrible players.


:lol:

The efficiency at which he scouts and targets unwanted players is uncanny.


Maybe he feels that after the Webster come back and Okafor recovering, he is on a roll with underated injured players.

But yeah, very EG move. Specially the 2nd year player option.

So was the Glen Rice signing.

Man loves to roll the dice on underdog players. Could have just drafted Pierre Jackson instead.
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Re: Wizards agree to terms with Eric Maynor 

Post#52 » by truwizfan4evr » Tue Jul 2, 2013 1:11 am

nuposse04 wrote:There are problems with every single backup PG on the market...so I bet regardless of who was signed, we'd find a way to tear whoever we signed apart. The being said, Maynor wasn't my first choice...but I'm not gonna drink myself to depression over him. Surround him with shooters and he might find a way to be worth a damn. His bad defense is a little unsettling. I thought Price was a pretty damn good defender last season. I still think Price would make an excellent 3rd string pg but he's probably gone.

i agree 1000%
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Re: Wizards agree to terms with Eric Maynor 

Post#53 » by Jay81 » Tue Jul 2, 2013 1:11 am

Awful awful move. Why do we constantly sign terrible free agents
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Re: Wizards agree to terms with Eric Maynor 

Post#54 » by FAH1223 » Tue Jul 2, 2013 1:14 am

If Wall gets injured, atleast we will be bad again and can enter the tank wars
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Re: Wizards agree to terms with Eric Maynor 

Post#55 » by fishercob » Tue Jul 2, 2013 1:14 am

Jay81 wrote:Awful awful move. Why do we constantly sign terrible free agents


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Re: Wizards agree to terms with Eric Maynor 

Post#56 » by dckingsfan » Tue Jul 2, 2013 1:19 am

miller31time wrote:
dckingsfan wrote:Well, at least EG didn't wait 'till the last minute like last year. Not my first choice...


Yes, he's getting much better at finding terrible players.


Too funny... I am sure if there was a poll - 95% of fans would want EG gone.
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Re: Wizards agree to terms with Eric Maynor 

Post#57 » by FreckleFace » Tue Jul 2, 2013 1:21 am

I'm 100% in favor of this deal.. Idk i may be missing something here but I couldn't stand AJ Price.. I hated when he started or even entered the game. He just seemed so slow and made bad plays. I'll sleep very well tonight
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Re: Wizards agree to terms with Eric Maynor 

Post#58 » by rockymac52 » Tue Jul 2, 2013 1:25 am

For those of you saying Maynor played a lot better once he got to Portland, check out this stat...

While on the Trail Blazers, when Eric Maynor played at PG (as opposed to SG), his PER was 1.8.

1.8

1.8

Let that sink in...

Try and justify that.
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Re: Wizards agree to terms with Eric Maynor 

Post#59 » by Chocolate City Jordanaire » Tue Jul 2, 2013 1:27 am

Dat2U wrote:Now I wish we had gotten a PG in the 2nd round (Jackson or Wolters) so they could have potentially stolen the backup PG job from Maynor.



They did draft a PG, in fact, Nate Wolters. This signing wasn't necessary if not for the trade to get Rice, Jr. .
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Eric Maynor Agree to 2 year deal 

Post#60 » by hands11 » Tue Jul 2, 2013 1:28 am

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-o ... ric-maynor

So we got our ACL player after all. Its just going to cost us less.


"Maynor was a promising young point guard in Utah before being traded to Oklahoma City. He flourished there, before tearing his ACL. He never fully recovered from that tear and was traded to Portland at the deadline, averaging seven points and four assists in just 21 minutes per game for the Blazers in 27 contests. "

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