WT- Nate unlikely to be back (WAIT! + instagram pic pg 81!)

[AshyLarrysDiaper]

GS is about to sign Speights, so the MMLE is about to be gone. To be honest it looks like Nate will have to decide between winning and money. All the winners will offer him pretty much what we can, it's the not so elite teams who still can pay him.

I also saw GS is looking at JL3

If this was a guy that already received his big pay day, I could see Nate coming back to win. But I think he will go to the highest bidder. I wouldn't blame him.

No doubt, if someone offers multi millions over muti years, he has to take it. Only possible reason not to would be if we were the kind of team that would signal our intention quietly to use his Bird rights next year for a multi year deal.

But I think it's obvious that we're not going to do that.

I know this won't be popular, but I'd kinda feel bad for the guy if he had to resign with us for the minimum. I mean, what's it gonna take for him to get his due?

[bad knees]

FWIW, Nate has not always been a vet min guy. After his rookie contract ended (the last year of which he was paid $2M), he was paid $4 M in 2009-2010, and then $8.7 M over the next two years. It's only been the last two years that he has been paid the vet min. Here's hoping he saved up some money over the years, and is hungry for a championship with the Bullies.

[Ben]

If this was a guy that already received his big pay day, I could see Nate coming back to win. But I think he will go to the highest bidder. I wouldn't blame him.

No doubt, if someone offers multi millions over muti years, he has to take it. Only possible reason not to would be if we were the kind of team that would signal our intention quietly to use his Bird rights next year for a multi year deal.

But I think it's obvious that we're not going to do that.

I know this won't be popular, but I'd kinda feel bad for the guy if he had to resign with us for the minimum. I mean, what's it gonna take for him to get his due?

I know, all of us who like him would probably feel the same way. I wish that Nate could get paid more in our system without it hurting our cap, and I wish that he got more respect around the league. But if he's gonna get underpaid at the minimum, I hope like heck that it's with us.

[HomoSapien]

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[ChicagoStrong]

Could mean nothing

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[Ben]

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Edit, uh ...

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OMG. Say it ain't so.

Trey Burke's summer league debut got them running scared? Just re-sign Mo Williams, for Pete's sake...

[Magilla_Gorilla]

Well. Damn.

[RedBulls23]

No doubt, if someone offers multi millions over muti years, he has to take it. Only possible reason not to would be if we were the kind of team that would signal our intention quietly to use his Bird rights next year for a multi year deal.

But I think it's obvious that we're not going to do that.

I know this won't be popular, but I'd kinda feel bad for the guy if he had to resign with us for the minimum. I mean, what's it gonna take for him to get his due?

I know, all of us who like him would probably feel the same way. I wish that Nate could get paid more in our system without it hurting our cap, and I wish that he got more respect around the league. But if he's gonna get underpaid at the minimum, I hope like heck that it's with us.

Just out of curiosity I looked up on basketball reference and they have Nate earning a total of 20.4 million over his career. So maybe he would choose winning over a slightly bigger contract? And maybe knowing JR he would take care of him in the long run?

[HomoSapien]

The smart thing for Nate to do, if he's not getting a big contract, is to resign with the Bulls. The longer he's here the more his reputation will continue to change and he'll become a fan favorite both in Chicago and around the league. He might not be able to make all the big bucks as a player, but having a good reputation can go a long way in him getting that job on TNT after he's retired. He should think about the long-term approach. In today's NBA, teams aren't going to pay someone with his height.

[mostek]

The best thing for Nate, especially if there is no big contract available, is to go where he can get the most playing time. The more he plays, especially if he can get in a situation where he has some free rain, the better chance he has of getting some more on his next contract. It would be very hard to imagine Chicago would provide him that platform.

[Mr Funk]

FWIW, Nate has not always been a vet min guy. After his rookie contract ended (the last year of which he was paid $2M), he was paid $4 M in 2009-2010, and then $8.7 M over the next two years. It's only been the last two years that he has been paid the vet min. Here's hoping he saved up some money over the years, and is hungry for a championship with the Bullies.

Yep.

Nate signed a 3-year, $12.7 million deal in the summer of 2009 with New York, and I could be wrong, but I think Nate's made a total of $20 million while playing in the NBA.

I have a feeling Nate will be back.

[RedBulls23]

The best thing for Nate, especially if there is no big contract available, is to go where he can get the most playing time. The more he plays, especially if he can get in a situation where he has some free rain, the better chance he has of getting some more on his next contract. It would be very hard to imagine Chicago would provide him that platform.

Eh...he played a lot for the Warriors the year before, and he played a lot for us this past season. I think teams know what he provides. He doesn't have much to show case anymore.

[mostek]

The best thing for Nate, especially if there is no big contract available, is to go where he can get the most playing time. The more he plays, especially if he can get in a situation where he has some free rain, the better chance he has of getting some more on his next contract. It would be very hard to imagine Chicago would provide him that platform.

Eh...he played a lot for the Warriors the year before, and he played a lot for us this past season. I think teams know what he provides. He doesn't have much to show case anymore.

I guess that tells the story. If teams know what he provides, and are still unwilling to offer much of a contract?

[HomoSapien]

The best thing for Nate, especially if there is no big contract available, is to go where he can get the most playing time. The more he plays, especially if he can get in a situation where he has some free rain, the better chance he has of getting some more on his next contract. It would be very hard to imagine Chicago would provide him that platform.

Eh...he played a lot for the Warriors the year before, and he played a lot for us this past season. I think teams know what he provides. He doesn't have much to show case anymore.

I guess that tells the story. If teams know what he provides, and are still unwilling to offer much of a contract?

Meh. Matt Barnes has always had trouble getting a contract even though he ends up becoming a key member of whatever team he plays for. Some guys are just under appreciated.

[RedBulls23]

The best thing for Nate, especially if there is no big contract available, is to go where he can get the most playing time. The more he plays, especially if he can get in a situation where he has some free rain, the better chance he has of getting some more on his next contract. It would be very hard to imagine Chicago would provide him that platform.

Eh...he played a lot for the Warriors the year before, and he played a lot for us this past season. I think teams know what he provides. He doesn't have much to show case anymore.

I guess that tells the story. If teams know what he provides, and are still unwilling to offer much of a contract?

His size is a big factor. And seeing as how today's league is PG heavy also factors into it, IMO.

[AAU Teammate]

Nate can go to a winner that will give him minutes.

We're that double whammy of no money/no minutes.

[Payt10]

Nate can go to a winner that will give him minutes.

We're that double whammy of no money/no minutes.

He'll get minutes here. Not as many as last year, but I could see him being the primary backup to Derrick, and then when Hinrich is out for a large chunk of the season again, he'll take some of his minutes.

[LoveDaBoo]

Nate can go to a winner that will give him minutes.

Who?

[Ben]

I know this won't be popular, but I'd kinda feel bad for the guy if he had to resign with us for the minimum. I mean, what's it gonna take for him to get his due?

I know, all of us who like him would probably feel the same way. I wish that Nate could get paid more in our system without it hurting our cap, and I wish that he got more respect around the league. But if he's gonna get underpaid at the minimum, I hope like heck that it's with us.

Just out of curiosity I looked up on basketball reference and they have Nate earning a total of 20.4 million over his career. So maybe he would choose winning over a slightly bigger contract? And maybe knowing JR he would take care of him in the long run?

I know this sounds kind of bad, considering how much money most people in the world make, but $20.4 million spread over 8 years might not leave a pro basketball player all that well set up for the future, depending on how well he managed it. A certain percentage for taxes, certain percentage for agents, family stuff, sometimes alimony and/or child support, and then factor in that a lot of those guys live pretty profligately during their careers if only b/c they're hanging around with other rich guys (and some support an entourage). I don't know anything about Nate's habits, but guys like Iverson made a whole lot more than Nate and don't have anything to show for it. So I wouldn't just assume that he's well heeled for life and now in a position to take a pay cut for a title run.

[RedBulls23]

I know this sounds kind of bad, considering how much money most people in the world make, but $20.4 million spread over 8 years might not leave a pro basketball player all that well set up for the future, depending on how well he managed it. A certain percentage for taxes, certain percentage for agents, family stuff, sometimes alimony and/or child support, and then factor in that a lot of those guys live pretty profligately during their careers if only b/c they're hanging around with other rich guys (and some support an entourage). I don't know anything about Nate's habits, but guys like Iverson made a whole lot more than Nate and don't have anything to show for it. So I wouldn't just assume that he's well heeled for life and now in a position to take a pay cut for a title run.

That's a fair point.