Poll: Masai Ujiri Approval Rating

[MrBojangelz71]

Don't really like his moves so far. Trading Bargnani for Camby whos not coming to play. I assume Camby is to help develop Jonas, but it doesn't seem this trade makes us any better in competing nor developing players. It seems like we just want to get out of luxury tax in the sake of just trading away someone.

Hansbrough signing is worse. The team doesn't need more veteran presences, and I don't see Hansbrough fills our needs.

Meanwhile, we have yet to do anything with our biggest need, 3 point shooting. Anthony Morrow signed a 2 year vet-min, and we are not getting any 3+D guard?

Perhaps it is still early in the off season, and we have little cap space to work with. However, I am a little disappointed with the current direction. I am very concern with the scoring, and believe all our players will have a hard time scoring (career low in scoring and asset management).

Not sure if you are being facetious or serious here.

1st off, we traded Andrea for 3 draft picks, Camby Qrich and Novak. We hardly traded Andrea for mere cap reasons. We moved him because we needed him gone, getting some assets and less salary was a huge bonus as many assumed Andrea's value would lead to us having to take on more bad salary.
Camby is just a a contract needed to make this deal work, and he can be moved if needed.

2ndly, Hansbrough = Vet presence????
He has only been in the league for 4 seasons, which hardly makes him a seasoned vet.

The deal is basically for one guaranteed season. Whether you like Hansbrough or not, it was a value signing for a player that provides essentials that every team needs. And if he sucks, we cut him at the end of the season or trade him as a 3mill expiring. Not sure why you would have issues with this deal.

3rdly We received Novak in the Bargs deal, one of the best 3 point shooters in the league.

But just so you are clear, everything you stated is wrong,

[vini_vidi_vici]

I want to track Ujiri's approval rating over the long-term using the same question that Gallup uses in its Presidential approval ratings. I intend to re-run this poll on a regular basis and will post the previous results in each subsequent thread.

This poll is scheduled to remain open until Friday. If the Raptors make any moves before then, I will close this poll and start a new one.

So here goes...


Do you approve or disapprove of the way Masai Ujiri is handling his job as General Manager of the Toronto Raptors?

I really like this idea Hank, are you going to archive it, within the thread, perhaps like this in the OP.

July 9-12 Strong approve/__%, approve ___%, etc..

This could a good barometer in general terms to refer back to, mid-season, etc..

[TheToothFairy]

Don't really like his moves so far. Trading Bargnani for Camby whos not coming to play. I assume Camby is to help develop Jonas, but it doesn't seem this trade makes us any better in competing nor developing players. It seems like we just want to get out of luxury tax in the sake of just trading away someone.

Hansbrough signing is worse. The team doesn't need more veteran presences, and I don't see Hansbrough fills our needs.

Meanwhile, we have yet to do anything with our biggest need, 3 point shooting. Anthony Morrow signed a 2 year vet-min, and we are not getting any 3+D guard?

Perhaps it is still early in the off season, and we have little cap space to work with. However, I am a little disappointed with the current direction. I am very concern with the scoring, and believe all our players will have a hard time scoring (career low in scoring and asset management).

You aren't very bright are you?

He got 3 picks for Brgnani, Amby is Irelevant

He didn't do anything for 3 pt shooting?

You mean like Steve Novak? One of the best 3 pt shooters in the League?

You mean somebody like that ?

[Indeed]

Don't really like his moves so far. Trading Bargnani for Camby whos not coming to play. I assume Camby is to help develop Jonas, but it doesn't seem this trade makes us any better in competing nor developing players. It seems like we just want to get out of luxury tax in the sake of just trading away someone.

Hansbrough signing is worse. The team doesn't need more veteran presences, and I don't see Hansbrough fills our needs.

Meanwhile, we have yet to do anything with our biggest need, 3 point shooting. Anthony Morrow signed a 2 year vet-min, and we are not getting any 3+D guard?

Perhaps it is still early in the off season, and we have little cap space to work with. However, I am a little disappointed with the current direction. I am very concern with the scoring, and believe all our players will have a hard time scoring (career low in scoring and asset management).

Oh yeah, the trade was totally Bargnani for Camby. Let's just forget the 1st and two 2nds that came along with the deal. Not to mention Novak, who is a career 43% 3point shooter. Wait, wasn't that one of our biggest needs according to you? And all that for what many pundits called one of the most untradeable contracts in the NBA? You're totally right. HORRIBLE TRADE.

Oh yeah, Hansbrough is an old washed up vet. At 27 years old. Too bad we signed him for 5 years. Wait, isn't it 2 years with a team option for the 2nd? Oops.

On a sheer asset for asset basis, MU so far:

Incoming - Novak, Q-Rich, Stone, Hansbrough, Camby, 1st, 2nd, 2nd
Outgoing - Bargnani

He's done a fantastic job so far, and is doing what good GM's do—be patient, let the morons overpay and make panic moves, and acquire valuable pieces for less than what they're worth. I can't wait to see what he does for the rest of the summer.

1) If you are not playing any shooters into the starting lineup, I don't see how our 3 point shooting percentage can go up. Novak, Q-Rich and Stone are bench players as we got plenty, our problem is shooters in the starting lineup.

2) The 1st pick is definitely a late 1st due to a swap to ensure it. The 2nd picks are useless as always.

3) Hansbrough doesn't have leadership. Unlike Amir to lead by example, Lowry to be vocal, he is neither. I am unsure he is positive on locker room, he got upset easily.


So far it is pretty bad, imo, even we are tanking.

[Reg00]

So far approve. He hasn't done anything spectacular, he hasn't effected the starting 5 yet and that for me is the biggest sign for his direction of the team.

[SciencePiggy]

The greatest trick BC ever pulled was convincing a fan base that 2nd round picks are useless?

[CrookedJ]

The Doug disapproves.... check out this gem from the bottom half of the Hansborough signing piece...

The Raptors are getting back Steve Novak to play for them, assets in Marcus Camby and Quentin Richardson they can only hope to turn into something more worthwhile, and three future draft picks that have no value today whatsoever

Ummm future picks have lots of value now. They can be traded ... they have been traded.... in such instances as NY to us last week !.... They are an asset that costs us nothing to own since we don't have to pay them yet. F*^ed up thinking there Doug.

[IMAN5]

so far so good, bargnani trade was amazing, psycho T is a great underrated pick, stone we don't know much about but he's a project and cheap so it's fine.

he hasn't done anything ridiculous or stupid that would strap us for years to come like Colangelo would... (ie. trading picks, fields contract, signing overrated players or trading for washed up vets)

[scopy]

Don't really like his moves so far. Trading Bargnani for Camby whos not coming to play. I assume Camby is to help develop Jonas, but it doesn't seem this trade makes us any better in competing nor developing players. It seems like we just want to get out of luxury tax in the sake of just trading away someone.

Hansbrough signing is worse. The team doesn't need more veteran presences, and I don't see Hansbrough fills our needs.

Meanwhile, we have yet to do anything with our biggest need, 3 point shooting. Anthony Morrow signed a 2 year vet-min, and we are not getting any 3+D guard?

Perhaps it is still early in the off season, and we have little cap space to work with. However, I am a little disappointed with the current direction. I am very concern with the scoring, and believe all our players will have a hard time scoring (career low in scoring and asset management).

Oh yeah, the trade was totally Bargnani for Camby. Let's just forget the 1st and two 2nds that came along with the deal. Not to mention Novak, who is a career 43% 3point shooter. Wait, wasn't that one of our biggest needs according to you? And all that for what many pundits called one of the most untradeable contracts in the NBA? You're totally right. HORRIBLE TRADE.

Oh yeah, Hansbrough is an old washed up vet. At 27 years old. Too bad we signed him for 5 years. Wait, isn't it 2 years with a team option for the 2nd? Oops.

On a sheer asset for asset basis, MU so far:

Incoming - Novak, Q-Rich, Stone, Hansbrough, Camby, 1st, 2nd, 2nd
Outgoing - Bargnani

He's done a fantastic job so far, and is doing what good GM's do—be patient, let the morons overpay and make panic moves, and acquire valuable pieces for less than what they're worth. I can't wait to see what he does for the rest of the summer.

1) If you are not playing any shooters into the starting lineup, I don't see how our 3 point shooting percentage can go up. Novak, Q-Rich and Stone are bench players as we got plenty, our problem is shooters in the starting lineup.

2) The 1st pick is definitely a late 1st due to a swap to ensure it. The 2nd picks are useless as always.

3) Hansbrough doesn't have leadership. Unlike Amir to lead by example, Lowry to be vocal, he is neither. I am unsure he is positive on locker room, he got upset easily.


So far it is pretty bad, imo, even we are tanking.

Wow your second post is worse than your first.

1) 3 point shooter not in starting line up not going to help your 3pt percentage? Wow... Tell that to Ray Allen.

2) The fact we got picks is incredible in the first place. Just because BC couldn't do anything with 2nd rounders, doesn't mean this new management team won't. And from the looks of the people Masai brought on board (Weltman), we will be very good at selecting 2nd rounders, book it.

3) Hansborough is not being brought in to be a leader. He will be an energy guy. Which by the way, is a great way to lead.

[MrBojangelz71]

1) If you are not playing any shooters into the starting lineup, I don't see how our 3 point shooting percentage can go up. Novak, Q-Rich and Stone are bench players as we got plenty, our problem is shooters in the starting lineup.

2) The 1st pick is definitely a late 1st due to a swap to ensure it. The 2nd picks are useless as always.

3) Hansbrough doesn't have leadership. Unlike Amir to lead by example, Lowry to be vocal, he is neither. I am unsure he is positive on locker room, he got upset easily.


So far it is pretty bad, imo, even we are tanking.

1) So if your 3pnt shooting doesn't come from your starters, it doesnt count? Hardens with OKC, Manu, hell even Ray Allen's 3pnters are off the bench.

Please explain to me how making 3pnt shots from your bench players does not help your 3pnt % go up. If you make 10 of 30 3pnt shots, and 8 of those came from your bench, would that be the same % if all 10 came from starters?

2) How can you state that it is definitely a late pick, you have no clue. And if 2nd round picks are useless, why do teams sell them for half a mill, use them in trades or draft gems like Ginobli.
There are always a few players that are grabbed in every second round that end up being rotation players. The value in netting a rotation player in the second round is massive, and if you never have any 2nd round picks, you will never have an opportunity to create that value. Having 2 more chances to unearth a 2nd round asset is better than not having it.

But regardless, you do realize the piece we used to get these picks, right? We weren't trading Bosh here, it was Andrea fricken Bargnani, and we got picks and less salary in the deal. Please tell me what you believe his worth was on the market?

3)What does Hansbrough's leadership qualities have to do with anything?

No one stated that he was signed to provide vet leadership, not sure why this aspect is something you believe he should have to fill for us. We have Gay, Amir, Lowry, hell even Derozan has as many NBA years as Hansbrough does.

Next thing you are going to state is that Julian Stone does nothing for our interior defense or rim protection.


You seem to believe that these moves represent everything MU is going to do with this team. He got his leadership with Hansbrough, his 3pnt shooting with Novak, his mentoring with Camby, and he failed in every regard.

Just a weird and illogical way of viewing things.

[Reignman]

Once he gets a legit back up PG I'm definitely upgrading my approval rating.

[Scase]

I am really surprised by the early results of the poll.

Given how many people want to see the roster gutted, I am surprised that there are practically no disapproving votes.

I would have expected it to be at least around 15-20% or so.

My guess regarding that is, those of us wanting the roster gutted for the most part have patience and won't crap on him before he's made definitive moves showing which direction he's headed.

Granted that's all based on my opinion and speculation.

I'd rather give him a neither approve or disapprove rather than a rash disapproval just cause we aren't playing a team of d leaguers yet haha
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[Indeed]

1) If you are not playing any shooters into the starting lineup, I don't see how our 3 point shooting percentage can go up. Novak, Q-Rich and Stone are bench players as we got plenty, our problem is shooters in the starting lineup.

2) The 1st pick is definitely a late 1st due to a swap to ensure it. The 2nd picks are useless as always.

3) Hansbrough doesn't have leadership. Unlike Amir to lead by example, Lowry to be vocal, he is neither. I am unsure he is positive on locker room, he got upset easily.


So far it is pretty bad, imo, even we are tanking.

1) So if your 3pnt shooting doesn't come from your starters, it doesnt count? Hardens with OKC, Manu, hell even Ray Allen's 3pnters are off the bench.

Please explain to me how making 3pnt shots from your bench players does not help your 3pnt % go up. If you make 10 of 30 3pnt shots, and 8 of those came from your bench, would that be the same % if all 10 came from starters?

2) How can you state that it is definitely a late pick, you have no clue. And if 2nd round picks are useless, why do teams sell them for half a mill, use them in trades or draft gems like Ginobli.
There are always a few players that are grabbed in every second round that end up being rotation players. The value in netting a rotation player in the second round is massive, and if you never have any 2nd round picks, you will never have an opportunity to create that value. Having 2 more chances to unearth a 2nd round asset is better than not having it.

But regardless, you do realize the piece we used to get these picks, right? We weren't trading Bosh here, it was Andrea fricken Bargnani, and we got picks and less salary in the deal. Please tell me what you believe his worth was on the market?

3)What does Hansbrough's leadership qualities have to do with anything?

No one stated that he was signed to provide vet leadership, not sure why this aspect is something you believe he should have to fill for us. We have Gay, Amir, Lowry, hell even Derozan has as many NBA years as Hansbrough does.

Next thing you are going to state is that Julian Stone does nothing for our interior defense or rim protection.


You seem to believe that these moves represent everything MU is going to do with this team. He got his leadership with Hansbrough, his 3pnt shooting with Novak, his mentoring with Camby, and he failed in every regard.

Just a weird and illogical way of viewing things.

1) Harden with OKC is not the only 3 point shooter in their team. Durant (.373 career) and Sefolosha (.400 last 2 seasons) are good shooters, and Westbrook shoots .300 last 2 seasons. It is not about Manu or Allen off the bench, but it is their starting lineup already has shooters.

You probably need to replace DeRozan or our starting PF to be a shooters.

2) I have no clue? I am just laughing at you right now. The 2016 1st pick will be swap by Denver, and I am surprise it has no protection to it. As for the 2nd round pick, we only have 15 men on roster, and the previous 2nd round pick was drafting someone to play in Europe.

Even we are trading away Bargnani, we don't get useless pieces in Camby who will not play for us with a 2 years of salary occupied.

3) Simply it is a bad signing. He fills for injuries, but doesn't resolve our major problem, which is leadership and 3 point shooting.

Other than Stone signing which is a great one, others are not doing much help for the team. Neither for tanking nor developing players. That's what I see, and time will tell.

[n1gHtmAr3]

I'm sorry but I don't understand how this is a bad signing. Its a cheap two year (2nd year team option) contract for a good rotation player. If he sucks or we decide to go full tank mode, we move him or don't pick up the 2nd year. If we appear to be good, wow, we keep him on for a 2nd year.

Also, the option to tank during the season is still possible, there IS the giant crop of free agents. The draft is NOT the only option next year.

[MrBojangelz71]

1) If you are not playing any shooters into the starting lineup, I don't see how our 3 point shooting percentage can go up. Novak, Q-Rich and Stone are bench players as we got plenty, our problem is shooters in the starting lineup.

2) The 1st pick is definitely a late 1st due to a swap to ensure it. The 2nd picks are useless as always.

3) Hansbrough doesn't have leadership. Unlike Amir to lead by example, Lowry to be vocal, he is neither. I am unsure he is positive on locker room, he got upset easily.


So far it is pretty bad, imo, even we are tanking.

1) So if your 3pnt shooting doesn't come from your starters, it doesnt count? Hardens with OKC, Manu, hell even Ray Allen's 3pnters are off the bench.

Please explain to me how making 3pnt shots from your bench players does not help your 3pnt % go up. If you make 10 of 30 3pnt shots, and 8 of those came from your bench, would that be the same % if all 10 came from starters?

2) How can you state that it is definitely a late pick, you have no clue. And if 2nd round picks are useless, why do teams sell them for half a mill, use them in trades or draft gems like Ginobli.
There are always a few players that are grabbed in every second round that end up being rotation players. The value in netting a rotation player in the second round is massive, and if you never have any 2nd round picks, you will never have an opportunity to create that value. Having 2 more chances to unearth a 2nd round asset is better than not having it.

But regardless, you do realize the piece we used to get these picks, right? We weren't trading Bosh here, it was Andrea fricken Bargnani, and we got picks and less salary in the deal. Please tell me what you believe his worth was on the market?

3)What does Hansbrough's leadership qualities have to do with anything?

No one stated that he was signed to provide vet leadership, not sure why this aspect is something you believe he should have to fill for us. We have Gay, Amir, Lowry, hell even Derozan has as many NBA years as Hansbrough does.

Next thing you are going to state is that Julian Stone does nothing for our interior defense or rim protection.


You seem to believe that these moves represent everything MU is going to do with this team. He got his leadership with Hansbrough, his 3pnt shooting with Novak, his mentoring with Camby, and he failed in every regard.

Just a weird and illogical way of viewing things.

1) Harden with OKC is not the only 3 point shooter in their team. Durant (.373 career) and Sefolosha (.400 last 2 seasons) are good shooters, and Westbrook shoots .300 last 2 seasons. It is not about Manu or Allen off the bench, but it is their starting lineup already has shooters.

You probably need to replace DeRozan or our starting PF to be a shooters.

2) I have no clue? I am just laughing at you right now. The 2016 1st pick will be swap by Denver, and I am surprise it has no protection to it. As for the 2nd round pick, we only have 15 men on roster, and the previous 2nd round pick was drafting someone to play in Europe.

Even we are trading away Bargnani, we don't get useless pieces in Camby who will not play for us with a 2 years of salary occupied.

3) Simply it is a bad signing. He fills for injuries, but doesn't resolve our major problem, which is leadership and 3 point shooting.

Other than Stone signing which is a great one, others are not doing much help for the team. Neither for tanking nor developing players. That's what I see, and time will tell.

1) Are you privy to information that tells you MU is done dealing, and that we have cemented our starting lineup with the same cast as last season? Do you believe that Andrea was the one and only trade he will make before the season begins? You act as though MU’s only intentions for his new team was to trade Andrea and through that deal he would address toughness, leadership, 3pnt shooting and net a high unprotected lottery pick. I am sure that there will be a few more moves prior to this season starting, and 3pnt shooting will be addressed, unless he wants to tank it.

2) So were exactly will our pick fall? That’s right, you haven’t a clue. But regardless, please tell me what assets we should have been able to grab in an Andrea trade? Do you believe we could have netted an unprotected lottery pick? What were you expecting here, and how realistic are you expectations.

I mean, most basketball experts, the guys that get paid to report on this game, rated MU’s move very high, and blasted NYC for giving up draft picks for Bargnani. You go to the main board and most posters thought we made out like bandits in this deal. Most but you see the value we got for Bargnani, but please tell us what you believe he was worth?

3) And once again, were was it stated that the MU signed Hansbrough to address leadership and 3pnt shooting? Why are you having trouble comprehending that MU can make further deals, further signings or that he could turn around and trade Hansbrough as a useable, semi cheap expiring for a very serviceable big. This deal was to net a bench big that can provide grit and toughness, and 6 very hard fouls.

If you believe that a 2 year deal, with a team option on the second year, at under 3mill is a bad signing, you must have been in a coma through the BC era.

[Morris_Shatford]

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