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UPDATED NEW Poll: Masai Ujiri Approval Rating - July 17-19

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Approval Rating - July 17-19

Poll ended at Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:35 pm

Strongly Approve
7
25%
Approve
11
39%
Neither Approve Nor Disapprove
4
14%
Disapprove
4
14%
Strongly Disapprove
2
7%
 
Total votes: 28

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UPDATED NEW Poll: Masai Ujiri Approval Rating - July 17-19 

Post#1 » by hankscorpioLA » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:07 pm

July 9 - 75% - 5%
July 10-13 - 79% - 6%



Do you approve or disapprove of the way Masai Ujiri is handling his job as General Manager of the Toronto Raptors?



Complete results of past polls:

July 9: 222 votes (77-89-44-5-7) 35% Strongly Approve, 40% Approve, 20% Neither Approve nor Disapprove, 2% Disapprove, 3% Strongly Disapprove

July 10-13: 182 votes (49-94-27-4-8) 27% Strongly Approve, 52% Approve, 15% Neither Approve Nor Disapprove, 2% Disapprove, 4% Strongly Disapprove
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Post#2 » by hankscorpioLA » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:11 pm

Just to add that the objective will be to run this same poll on a periodic basis over the long-term.

There will be periods of time where it won't make sense to run it that often and other times where it will be re-run frequently.

I expect to run it a lot for the next few weeks, and then not very much at all until we get closer to the start of the season. Then again at the start of the season it will probably run a lot.

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Post#3 » by vini_vidi_vici » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:11 pm

Cant we keep it to one thread, I think when making a poll you can dictate its length, or does it prohibit you from running another??
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Re: NEW Poll: Masai Ujiri Approval Rating - now with Psycho 

Post#4 » by pbj » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:11 pm

Didn't you hear? He doesn't like being called Psycho T. His prefered nickname is "Gooch"

By the way, I like this idea. We can plot it in 5 years to see where it all went wrong..
BC's 7 year tenure would have been hilarious to graph.
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Post#5 » by hankscorpioLA » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:15 pm

vini_vidi_vici wrote:Cant we keep it to one thread, I think when making a poll you can dictate its length, or does it prohibit you from running another??


Mo' Shats locked the other thread already and linked to this thread.

Does that work?

Keep in mind, once we get past the summer league and into August and September, this poll won't run very often because there won't be much going on.

Same thing during the bulk of the season.
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Post#6 » by HEDOBALL » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:16 pm

TBH, having him here for two years says a lot for where Masai sees this going.

He gets a strong approval for me STILL because of the Bargnani deal. We have finally met Il Mago....
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Re: NEW Poll: Masai Ujiri Approval Rating - now with Psycho 

Post#7 » by vini_vidi_vici » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:17 pm

hankscorpioLA wrote:
vini_vidi_vici wrote:Cant we keep it to one thread, I think when making a poll you can dictate its length, or does it prohibit you from running another??


I am not sure.

Each poll needs to be a separate "event". I don't know if you can do that. Let me see something and get back to you.


Again I appreciate the effort/idea, just makes it easier if you update the OP, instead of having 16 threads throughout the offseason to archive.
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Re: NEW Poll: Masai Ujiri Approval Rating - now with Psycho 

Post#8 » by hankscorpioLA » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:18 pm

pbj wrote:Didn't you hear? He doesn't like being called Psycho T. His prefered nickname is "Gooch"

By the way, I like this idea. We can plot it in 5 years to see where it all went wrong..
BC's 7 year tenure would have been hilarious to graph.



Exactly - we have an opportunity to start at the very beginning of a GM's tenure and track his approval over time.

And why do you assume it will all go wrong? :lol:
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Re: NEW Poll: Masai Ujiri Approval Rating - now with Psycho 

Post#9 » by pbj » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:21 pm

hankscorpioLA wrote:
pbj wrote:Didn't you hear? He doesn't like being called Psycho T. His prefered nickname is "Gooch"

By the way, I like this idea. We can plot it in 5 years to see where it all went wrong..
BC's 7 year tenure would have been hilarious to graph.



Exactly - we have an opportunity to start at the very beginning of a GM's tenure and track his approval over time.

And why do you assume it will all go wrong? :lol:


That's how graphs work man.. first they go up a little, then plateau, then up a little more, then plateau.. then they peak, and then they shoot straight down at an 85 degree drop.
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Post#10 » by Swag » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:23 pm

I dont disapprove his moves (ie, trading Bargs, signing TH) but I'm still confused on the direction we're taking

Are we tanking, or are we competing?

We cant be tanking and competing (for a playoff spot), thats how we end up 9th or 10th in the East
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Post#11 » by hankscorpioLA » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:31 pm

Swag wrote:I dont disapprove his moves (ie, trading Bargs, signing TH) but I'm still confused on the direction we're taking

Are we tanking, or are we competing?

We cant be tanking and competing (for a playoff spot), thats how we end up 9th or 10th in the East


It seems pretty clear to me that we are not tanking...at least not this season.
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Post#12 » by TheRealBlizzy » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:34 pm

hankscorpioLA wrote:
Swag wrote:I dont disapprove his moves (ie, trading Bargs, signing TH) but I'm still confused on the direction we're taking

Are we tanking, or are we competing?

We cant be tanking and competing (for a playoff spot), thats how we end up 9th or 10th in the East


It seems pretty clear to me that we are not tanking...at least not this season.


because of psycho t and novak?
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Post#13 » by Swag » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:34 pm

hankscorpioLA wrote:
Swag wrote:I dont disapprove his moves (ie, trading Bargs, signing TH) but I'm still confused on the direction we're taking

Are we tanking, or are we competing?

We cant be tanking and competing (for a playoff spot), thats how we end up 9th or 10th in the East


It seems pretty clear to me that we are not tanking...at least not this season.


In that case - BOOOOOOO!

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Post#14 » by Indeed » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:40 pm

MrBojangelz71 wrote:1) Are you privy to information that tells you MU is done dealing, and that we have cemented our starting lineup with the same cast as last season? Do you believe that Andrea was the one and only trade he will make before the season begins? You act as though MU’s only intentions for his new team was to trade Andrea and through that deal he would address toughness, leadership, 3pnt shooting and net a high unprotected lottery pick. I am sure that there will be a few more moves prior to this season starting, and 3pnt shooting will be addressed, unless he wants to tank it.

2) So were exactly will our pick fall? That’s right, you haven’t a clue. But regardless, please tell me what assets we should have been able to grab in an Andrea trade? Do you believe we could have netted an unprotected lottery pick? What were you expecting here, and how realistic are you expectations.

I mean, most basketball experts, the guys that get paid to report on this game, rated MU’s move very high, and blasted NYC for giving up draft picks for Bargnani. You go to the main board and most posters thought we made out like bandits in this deal. Most but you see the value we got for Bargnani, but please tell us what you believe he was worth?

3) And once again, were was it stated that the MU signed Hansbrough to address leadership and 3pnt shooting? Why are you having trouble comprehending that MU can make further deals, further signings or that he could turn around and trade Hansbrough as a useable, semi cheap expiring for a very serviceable big. This deal was to net a bench big that can provide grit and toughness, and 6 very hard fouls.

If you believe that a 2 year deal, with a team option on the second year, at under 3mill is a bad signing, you must have been in a coma through the BC era.


1) I stated on my first post that maybe it is still early. Did you fail to read? However, this post is based on this current performance, and I see no wrong for criticizing the new moves.

2) The 1st pick is pretty much low, and if you want to argue that there is a 5% chance a 2nd rounder can be a regular NBA player, which worth something, then I have nothing to say. It is pretty much useless for those picks, and we may need to buyout or use those picks to send Camby out. I would rather amnesty Bargnani if I am to buyout Camby's contract.

Meanwhile, the biggest issue I have is businesses trying to interfere with basketball decision. If they ask for patient, why they have to trade Bargnani in a hurry? If you believe he has more to deals on the way, why only Bargnani is dealt on the July 1st? To me, they are doing it for the sake of doing it, instead of maximizing value or having a proper direction. It looks like business people are trying to interfere with basketball decisions, which is the biggest issue I have (typical Rogers/Bell ways of doing things). I wouldn't mind trading away Bargnani, but if we are getting a bad contract in Camby, we are pretty much sending those 1st picks out.

3) We have limited cap space, unless we are trading Gay and Lowry. We still have backup PG to address, and I assume that would be another minimum player who does no help to our backcourt. I am also uncertain about the starting PF.
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Post#15 » by hankscorpioLA » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:44 pm

TheRealBlizzy wrote:
because of psycho t and novak?


Because nothing they have done or said suggests its part of their thinking.

Thus far Masai has pretty much looked to bolster the bench by addressing two key needs - a consistent 3 point threat and a defensive-minded hustle player.

Why do you bolster your bench if you are going to tank?

And where are the moves for Rudy Gay and/or Demar Derozan? Its already clear that Masai isn't going to make a complete dump (rejected the Detroit deal). So who out there is in a position to offer us expiring contracts and prospects for either of those guys? And what indication have you gotten that they are even shopping them? Piece together all the whisperings and the message is that Masai is listening to offers and probably letting people know that Gay is available, but he's not shopping either of them aggressively.

Take a step back and you see a GM that is looking to build around the talent he has by addressing the weakest points of the roster.
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Post#16 » by fredericklove » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:48 pm

50/50,

50 for both Andrea trade and strengthen the bench depth. The other 50 is keeping BC's dream core.

Damn man, I just wanna know Masai's intentions :(
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Post#17 » by Kabookalu » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:49 pm

Psycho T is a terrible basketball player and he'll be a fan favorite because of his rugged and dirty play. Perfect tanking move.
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Post#18 » by Reignman » Wed Jul 10, 2013 4:50 pm

Still at "approve" and am patiently waiting what else he has in store for our bench, particularily back up PG.

One more good move to upgrade the bench and I will be changing to "strongly approve".
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Post#19 » by Wasp » Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:04 pm

Choker wrote:Psycho T is a terrible basketball player and he'll be a fan favorite because of his rugged and dirty play. Perfect tanking move.


His career PER is 15.4, so I think calling him a terrible basketball player is being a bit harsh. He's a solid backup big signed to an incredibly team-friendly contract, and is the closest thing to an NHL-style pest as there is in the NBA.

I do agree, however, that signing him doesn't indicate an unwillingness to tank (solid but not great, plays hard, tough, fan favourite, but won't necessarily win you games). He fits well on both a competitive team and a tanking team, so unfortunately we're still left wondering what Masai is really up to.
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Post#20 » by Zeno » Wed Jul 10, 2013 5:09 pm

Stepped up my vote to "approve" because Masai has now made a value trade and signing. But it is very mild approval. Really nothing much has happened yet. The words "team option" have replaced the words "trade kicker" so that's good.
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